Re: OT texas help
09-25-2003, 02:40 PM
#31
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Re: OT texas help
I see no contradiction. I-10 comes in from the northwest
and goes out on the east southeast. Now if you were an
old fart with bad glasses and extremely nearsighted or
always went thru in a heavy wind storm, perhaps I can see
how you could miss looking almost directly in front of
you [coming in from the west] and off to the right a
bit at the Franklin Mountains and Ranger Peak. And as you
head east, you are indeed heading into the flaaaaaaat.
And in a truck, you probably wouldn't be all that welcome
trying to cruise from Robinson street to Scenic Drive to
Alabama along the edge of the Franklin mts. And even on
the run from Las Cruces to El Paso on !-10, I guess if
you are old and blind you could probably miss the Organ
Mountains since they are a ways off in the distance on
highway 70. And you wouldn't have gone east on Hwy 62 to
the Hueco Mountains just directly east of town. And heading
north-northeast along hwy 54 it is pretty flat until you
get near the Jarilla Mts, although you can see the Franklins
off to the left.
But yeah, I can see how a trucker just drivin thru might
get the false impression that El Paso is completely flat.
Approximately 9/24/03 21:41, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> Maybe, but going though it many times on Interstate Ten I didn't
> even have to drop a gear, transporting my eight thousand pound load:
> http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Notice the texas plate.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Lon Stowell wrote:
>>
>> El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
>> to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
>> rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
>> it is a typical desert washer.
and goes out on the east southeast. Now if you were an
old fart with bad glasses and extremely nearsighted or
always went thru in a heavy wind storm, perhaps I can see
how you could miss looking almost directly in front of
you [coming in from the west] and off to the right a
bit at the Franklin Mountains and Ranger Peak. And as you
head east, you are indeed heading into the flaaaaaaat.
And in a truck, you probably wouldn't be all that welcome
trying to cruise from Robinson street to Scenic Drive to
Alabama along the edge of the Franklin mts. And even on
the run from Las Cruces to El Paso on !-10, I guess if
you are old and blind you could probably miss the Organ
Mountains since they are a ways off in the distance on
highway 70. And you wouldn't have gone east on Hwy 62 to
the Hueco Mountains just directly east of town. And heading
north-northeast along hwy 54 it is pretty flat until you
get near the Jarilla Mts, although you can see the Franklins
off to the left.
But yeah, I can see how a trucker just drivin thru might
get the false impression that El Paso is completely flat.
Approximately 9/24/03 21:41, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> Maybe, but going though it many times on Interstate Ten I didn't
> even have to drop a gear, transporting my eight thousand pound load:
> http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Notice the texas plate.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Lon Stowell wrote:
>>
>> El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
>> to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
>> rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
>> it is a typical desert washer.
09-25-2003, 02:41 PM
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Re: OT texas help
I suspect this may have changed to Hummer Floaters now...
Approximately 9/25/03 06:24, Gerald G. McGeorge uttered for posterity:
> Desert rains in west TX and NM are referred to as "Turd Floaters" by locals.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F7271EC.F39C1B2@***.net...
>> Maybe, but going though it many times on Interstate Ten I didn't
>> even have to drop a gear, transporting my eight thousand pound load:
>> http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Notice the texas plate.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Lon Stowell wrote:
>> >
>> > El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
>> > to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
>> > rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
>> > it is a typical desert washer.
>
>
Approximately 9/25/03 06:24, Gerald G. McGeorge uttered for posterity:
> Desert rains in west TX and NM are referred to as "Turd Floaters" by locals.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F7271EC.F39C1B2@***.net...
>> Maybe, but going though it many times on Interstate Ten I didn't
>> even have to drop a gear, transporting my eight thousand pound load:
>> http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Notice the texas plate.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Lon Stowell wrote:
>> >
>> > El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
>> > to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
>> > rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
>> > it is a typical desert washer.
>
>
09-25-2003, 02:41 PM
#33
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Re: OT texas help
I suspect this may have changed to Hummer Floaters now...
Approximately 9/25/03 06:24, Gerald G. McGeorge uttered for posterity:
> Desert rains in west TX and NM are referred to as "Turd Floaters" by locals.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F7271EC.F39C1B2@***.net...
>> Maybe, but going though it many times on Interstate Ten I didn't
>> even have to drop a gear, transporting my eight thousand pound load:
>> http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Notice the texas plate.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Lon Stowell wrote:
>> >
>> > El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
>> > to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
>> > rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
>> > it is a typical desert washer.
>
>
Approximately 9/25/03 06:24, Gerald G. McGeorge uttered for posterity:
> Desert rains in west TX and NM are referred to as "Turd Floaters" by locals.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F7271EC.F39C1B2@***.net...
>> Maybe, but going though it many times on Interstate Ten I didn't
>> even have to drop a gear, transporting my eight thousand pound load:
>> http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Notice the texas plate.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Lon Stowell wrote:
>> >
>> > El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
>> > to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
>> > rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
>> > it is a typical desert washer.
>
>
09-25-2003, 02:42 PM
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Re: OT texas help
Approximately 9/25/03 07:07, Jeepers uttered for posterity:
> In article <2Ftcb.334833$2x.99879@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net >,
> Lon Stowell <Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote:
>
>> El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
>> to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
>> rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
>> it is a typical desert washer.
>
> Dust and sand gets into everything, even your house.
Yeah, but when you want to repaint your car, all you
need to do is leave it outside in the late spring and
it will be cleaned to bare metal. [Actually happened
to a friend's brand new GTO]
> In article <2Ftcb.334833$2x.99879@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net >,
> Lon Stowell <Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote:
>
>> El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
>> to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
>> rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
>> it is a typical desert washer.
>
> Dust and sand gets into everything, even your house.
Yeah, but when you want to repaint your car, all you
need to do is leave it outside in the late spring and
it will be cleaned to bare metal. [Actually happened
to a friend's brand new GTO]
09-25-2003, 02:42 PM
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Re: OT texas help
Approximately 9/25/03 07:07, Jeepers uttered for posterity:
> In article <2Ftcb.334833$2x.99879@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net >,
> Lon Stowell <Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote:
>
>> El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
>> to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
>> rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
>> it is a typical desert washer.
>
> Dust and sand gets into everything, even your house.
Yeah, but when you want to repaint your car, all you
need to do is leave it outside in the late spring and
it will be cleaned to bare metal. [Actually happened
to a friend's brand new GTO]
> In article <2Ftcb.334833$2x.99879@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net >,
> Lon Stowell <Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote:
>
>> El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
>> to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
>> rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
>> it is a typical desert washer.
>
> Dust and sand gets into everything, even your house.
Yeah, but when you want to repaint your car, all you
need to do is leave it outside in the late spring and
it will be cleaned to bare metal. [Actually happened
to a friend's brand new GTO]
09-25-2003, 02:46 PM
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Re: OT texas help
Approximately 9/25/03 07:05, Jeepers uttered for posterity:
> In article <Turcb.265$Zm2.16721@kent.svc.tds.net>,
> "Jerry Newton" <dontbotherme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Jerry
>
> Go to Montana, Jerry.
Given a choice between Montana, even Great Falls, and
El Paso, I'd take Montana. Even Great Falls which is
considered fairly dry by northwest Montana standards
has way more water than El Paso. It is also far smaller
by any measure. Plus in Montana you have way more
hunting and fishing available even if you are just a
worm drowner. And from Great Falls, you can hit the
truly beautiful alpine Montana in a coupla hours unless
it happens to be on fire at the time.
El Paso does have a lot of offroad areas, and it does
have hunting particularly wild pig and jack rabbit.
It is dry, dusty [more sandy than dusty] with truly
nasty peasized sandstorms. Still I managed to like
it...
> In article <Turcb.265$Zm2.16721@kent.svc.tds.net>,
> "Jerry Newton" <dontbotherme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Jerry
>
> Go to Montana, Jerry.
Given a choice between Montana, even Great Falls, and
El Paso, I'd take Montana. Even Great Falls which is
considered fairly dry by northwest Montana standards
has way more water than El Paso. It is also far smaller
by any measure. Plus in Montana you have way more
hunting and fishing available even if you are just a
worm drowner. And from Great Falls, you can hit the
truly beautiful alpine Montana in a coupla hours unless
it happens to be on fire at the time.
El Paso does have a lot of offroad areas, and it does
have hunting particularly wild pig and jack rabbit.
It is dry, dusty [more sandy than dusty] with truly
nasty peasized sandstorms. Still I managed to like
it...
09-25-2003, 02:46 PM
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Re: OT texas help
Approximately 9/25/03 07:05, Jeepers uttered for posterity:
> In article <Turcb.265$Zm2.16721@kent.svc.tds.net>,
> "Jerry Newton" <dontbotherme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Jerry
>
> Go to Montana, Jerry.
Given a choice between Montana, even Great Falls, and
El Paso, I'd take Montana. Even Great Falls which is
considered fairly dry by northwest Montana standards
has way more water than El Paso. It is also far smaller
by any measure. Plus in Montana you have way more
hunting and fishing available even if you are just a
worm drowner. And from Great Falls, you can hit the
truly beautiful alpine Montana in a coupla hours unless
it happens to be on fire at the time.
El Paso does have a lot of offroad areas, and it does
have hunting particularly wild pig and jack rabbit.
It is dry, dusty [more sandy than dusty] with truly
nasty peasized sandstorms. Still I managed to like
it...
> In article <Turcb.265$Zm2.16721@kent.svc.tds.net>,
> "Jerry Newton" <dontbotherme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Jerry
>
> Go to Montana, Jerry.
Given a choice between Montana, even Great Falls, and
El Paso, I'd take Montana. Even Great Falls which is
considered fairly dry by northwest Montana standards
has way more water than El Paso. It is also far smaller
by any measure. Plus in Montana you have way more
hunting and fishing available even if you are just a
worm drowner. And from Great Falls, you can hit the
truly beautiful alpine Montana in a coupla hours unless
it happens to be on fire at the time.
El Paso does have a lot of offroad areas, and it does
have hunting particularly wild pig and jack rabbit.
It is dry, dusty [more sandy than dusty] with truly
nasty peasized sandstorms. Still I managed to like
it...
09-25-2003, 02:50 PM
#38
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Re: OT texas help
I had to laugh at that. My wife grew up in Colorado so she was
totally freaked out when we got into a rainstorm out near Pecos one
day and had to pull off the road until it was over - visibility zero
due to falling mud...
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:24:06 UTC "Gerald G. McGeorge"
<gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
> Desert rains in west TX and NM are referred to as "Turd Floaters" by locals.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F7271EC.F39C1B2@***.net...
> > Maybe, but going though it many times on Interstate Ten I didn't
> > even have to drop a gear, transporting my eight thousand pound load:
> > http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Notice the texas plate.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Lon Stowell wrote:
> > >
> > > El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
> > > to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
> > > rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
> > > it is a typical desert washer.
>
>
--
Will Honea
totally freaked out when we got into a rainstorm out near Pecos one
day and had to pull off the road until it was over - visibility zero
due to falling mud...
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:24:06 UTC "Gerald G. McGeorge"
<gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
> Desert rains in west TX and NM are referred to as "Turd Floaters" by locals.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F7271EC.F39C1B2@***.net...
> > Maybe, but going though it many times on Interstate Ten I didn't
> > even have to drop a gear, transporting my eight thousand pound load:
> > http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Notice the texas plate.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Lon Stowell wrote:
> > >
> > > El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
> > > to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
> > > rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
> > > it is a typical desert washer.
>
>
--
Will Honea
09-25-2003, 02:50 PM
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Re: OT texas help
I had to laugh at that. My wife grew up in Colorado so she was
totally freaked out when we got into a rainstorm out near Pecos one
day and had to pull off the road until it was over - visibility zero
due to falling mud...
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:24:06 UTC "Gerald G. McGeorge"
<gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
> Desert rains in west TX and NM are referred to as "Turd Floaters" by locals.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F7271EC.F39C1B2@***.net...
> > Maybe, but going though it many times on Interstate Ten I didn't
> > even have to drop a gear, transporting my eight thousand pound load:
> > http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Notice the texas plate.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Lon Stowell wrote:
> > >
> > > El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
> > > to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
> > > rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
> > > it is a typical desert washer.
>
>
--
Will Honea
totally freaked out when we got into a rainstorm out near Pecos one
day and had to pull off the road until it was over - visibility zero
due to falling mud...
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:24:06 UTC "Gerald G. McGeorge"
<gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
> Desert rains in west TX and NM are referred to as "Turd Floaters" by locals.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F7271EC.F39C1B2@***.net...
> > Maybe, but going though it many times on Interstate Ten I didn't
> > even have to drop a gear, transporting my eight thousand pound load:
> > http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Notice the texas plate.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Lon Stowell wrote:
> > >
> > > El Paso is nothing like that. The town is ringed by mountains
> > > to the north. Real mountains. And the humidity in El Paso
> > > rarely gets above 20% even when it rains... and when it rains
> > > it is a typical desert washer.
>
>
--
Will Honea
09-25-2003, 03:20 PM
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Re: OT texas help
In article <wKGcb.429999$Oz4.226729@rwcrnsc54>,
Lon Stowell <Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote:
> Approximately 9/25/03 07:05, Jeepers uttered for posterity:
>
> > In article <Turcb.265$Zm2.16721@kent.svc.tds.net>,
> > "Jerry Newton" <dontbotherme@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Jerry
> >
> > Go to Montana, Jerry.
>
> Given a choice between Montana, even Great Falls, and
> El Paso, I'd take Montana. Even Great Falls which is
> considered fairly dry by northwest Montana standards
> has way more water than El Paso. It is also far smaller
> by any measure. Plus in Montana you have way more
> hunting and fishing available even if you are just a
> worm drowner. And from Great Falls, you can hit the
> truly beautiful alpine Montana in a coupla hours unless
> it happens to be on fire at the time.
>
> El Paso does have a lot of offroad areas, and it does
> have hunting particularly wild pig and jack rabbit.
> It is dry, dusty [more sandy than dusty] with truly
> nasty peasized sandstorms. Still I managed to like
> it...
>
I live on a ranch in South Texas, between Corpus and San Antonio. I
also have a place out between Sanderson and Del Rio, near Dryden. I have
plenty of four-wheeling opportunities from the Piney woods to the Hill
Country, of central Texas ,to the Big Bend area and on down to the Gulf
coast. Palo Duro Canyon and Black Gap Wildlife Managment area to
Kickapoo Caverns State Park and up near Ft. Hood. I go wheeling in
Mexico, Colorado and New Mexico. Texas has it, for me anyways, I
wouldn't live anywhere else, I'm seventh generation native. Montana may
have the bears and elk, but I hunt whitetail and turkeys on my own land
and Muleys out at Dryden. Right now it's dove season, LOVE IT! Last
night after my son's soccer practice in town, we came across a nice
black feral pig on our back road. But, alas, I was unarmed or we would
have had pork soon. Deep sea fishing in the Gulf is unmatched, plus all
the FRESH jumbo shrimp one can handle. My 10 year old caught a 15 pound
King Mackeral a couple weeks back off the coast of Port Aransas, he was
thrilled. The freshwater fishing is also wonderful, you could spend a
lifetime boating all the lakes in Texas. We canoe the Guadelupe and
flyfish near New Braunfels for Trout. The bigmouth bass are a challenge
too, not to mention the monster cats.
I was born in El Paso and have been all over the states, but Texas is
home. The rest of Texas is really nothing like El Paso.
If I had to pick between the Pan Handle/Permian basin and El Paso, I'd
take El Paso. With I-10 right there and Mexico and New Mexico it'd be a
bit more interesting than out in the Flatlands of the Basin.
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Lon Stowell <Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote:
> Approximately 9/25/03 07:05, Jeepers uttered for posterity:
>
> > In article <Turcb.265$Zm2.16721@kent.svc.tds.net>,
> > "Jerry Newton" <dontbotherme@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Jerry
> >
> > Go to Montana, Jerry.
>
> Given a choice between Montana, even Great Falls, and
> El Paso, I'd take Montana. Even Great Falls which is
> considered fairly dry by northwest Montana standards
> has way more water than El Paso. It is also far smaller
> by any measure. Plus in Montana you have way more
> hunting and fishing available even if you are just a
> worm drowner. And from Great Falls, you can hit the
> truly beautiful alpine Montana in a coupla hours unless
> it happens to be on fire at the time.
>
> El Paso does have a lot of offroad areas, and it does
> have hunting particularly wild pig and jack rabbit.
> It is dry, dusty [more sandy than dusty] with truly
> nasty peasized sandstorms. Still I managed to like
> it...
>
I live on a ranch in South Texas, between Corpus and San Antonio. I
also have a place out between Sanderson and Del Rio, near Dryden. I have
plenty of four-wheeling opportunities from the Piney woods to the Hill
Country, of central Texas ,to the Big Bend area and on down to the Gulf
coast. Palo Duro Canyon and Black Gap Wildlife Managment area to
Kickapoo Caverns State Park and up near Ft. Hood. I go wheeling in
Mexico, Colorado and New Mexico. Texas has it, for me anyways, I
wouldn't live anywhere else, I'm seventh generation native. Montana may
have the bears and elk, but I hunt whitetail and turkeys on my own land
and Muleys out at Dryden. Right now it's dove season, LOVE IT! Last
night after my son's soccer practice in town, we came across a nice
black feral pig on our back road. But, alas, I was unarmed or we would
have had pork soon. Deep sea fishing in the Gulf is unmatched, plus all
the FRESH jumbo shrimp one can handle. My 10 year old caught a 15 pound
King Mackeral a couple weeks back off the coast of Port Aransas, he was
thrilled. The freshwater fishing is also wonderful, you could spend a
lifetime boating all the lakes in Texas. We canoe the Guadelupe and
flyfish near New Braunfels for Trout. The bigmouth bass are a challenge
too, not to mention the monster cats.
I was born in El Paso and have been all over the states, but Texas is
home. The rest of Texas is really nothing like El Paso.
If I had to pick between the Pan Handle/Permian basin and El Paso, I'd
take El Paso. With I-10 right there and Mexico and New Mexico it'd be a
bit more interesting than out in the Flatlands of the Basin.
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