Re: Need softer springs...
#1
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Re: Need softer springs...
They are some custom springs that were made down in Tucson Az... I don't
think they are a brand. I had the shocks set soft but about get motionsick
every time I drive! I set 3 in front and 4 in back. The 3 takes some
kerthump off the front cause the weight of the engine and the 4's in back
keep my Jeep settled down after bumps instead of dolphining down the road.
I might end up having to pull the whole thing apart again and remove some
leafs...not something I look forward to!
Nick
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vgk30q43dfn79c@corp.supernews.com...
> Set those 9000s to the softest setting. Shocks don't have much to do with
> ramping well, or not, but they have alot to do with the ride quality.
>
> You bought ProComps, huh?
>
>
>
>
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:ThKNa.1960$7e.1320@fed1read07...
> > I just installed a lift on my 93 4cy, no hardtop wrangler about a month
> ago.
> > The springs are 4" custom made and I also have about an inch and half
lift
> > shackles. Finally got to ramp it today and got maybe a 600... These
> > springs are DAMN stiff and not providing much flex. I don't anticipate
> > these things sagging and keeping that in mind, I'd like to know what
ya'll
> > out there have done or come up with to help your springs soften up. I'm
> > running with the r9000's and think I'll set those softer to put more
work
> on
> > the springs but other than that I don't have any ideas. Maybe park it
> every
> > night ramped????!!!!
> > Please don't bash my rig, if that's your first thought don't bother F'N
> > responding. I'm tired of seeing that crap on here.
> > Nick
> >
> >
>
>
think they are a brand. I had the shocks set soft but about get motionsick
every time I drive! I set 3 in front and 4 in back. The 3 takes some
kerthump off the front cause the weight of the engine and the 4's in back
keep my Jeep settled down after bumps instead of dolphining down the road.
I might end up having to pull the whole thing apart again and remove some
leafs...not something I look forward to!
Nick
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vgk30q43dfn79c@corp.supernews.com...
> Set those 9000s to the softest setting. Shocks don't have much to do with
> ramping well, or not, but they have alot to do with the ride quality.
>
> You bought ProComps, huh?
>
>
>
>
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:ThKNa.1960$7e.1320@fed1read07...
> > I just installed a lift on my 93 4cy, no hardtop wrangler about a month
> ago.
> > The springs are 4" custom made and I also have about an inch and half
lift
> > shackles. Finally got to ramp it today and got maybe a 600... These
> > springs are DAMN stiff and not providing much flex. I don't anticipate
> > these things sagging and keeping that in mind, I'd like to know what
ya'll
> > out there have done or come up with to help your springs soften up. I'm
> > running with the r9000's and think I'll set those softer to put more
work
> on
> > the springs but other than that I don't have any ideas. Maybe park it
> every
> > night ramped????!!!!
> > Please don't bash my rig, if that's your first thought don't bother F'N
> > responding. I'm tired of seeing that crap on here.
> > Nick
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Need softer springs...
I said the shocks don't have much effect on ramping, but the truth is that
if the shocks are too short, then ramping will suck.
Set the shocks to the softest setting, and the bouncing will go down a
little bit. The stiff shocks cause the Jeep to ride very harsh, but softer
shocks will let the springs take up some of the uneven road surface
conditions, if they are gong to. I have ProComp springs, and if I had it to
do over again, I wouldn't do ProComps; they are very stiff. My Jeep doesn't
bounce at all, and my 9000s are set to 1.
Before you do anything drastic, try backing off the bolts on the shackles
like another poster suggested. I might need to try that because I think I
probably cranked them up pretty tight thinking this would help to keep them
from falling off.
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:Q5oOa.2459$7e.2175@fed1read07...
> They are some custom springs that were made down in Tucson Az... I don't
> think they are a brand. I had the shocks set soft but about get
motionsick
> every time I drive! I set 3 in front and 4 in back. The 3 takes some
> kerthump off the front cause the weight of the engine and the 4's in back
> keep my Jeep settled down after bumps instead of dolphining down the road.
> I might end up having to pull the whole thing apart again and remove some
> leafs...not something I look forward to!
> Nick
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vgk30q43dfn79c@corp.supernews.com...
> > Set those 9000s to the softest setting. Shocks don't have much to do
with
> > ramping well, or not, but they have alot to do with the ride quality.
> >
> > You bought ProComps, huh?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> > news:ThKNa.1960$7e.1320@fed1read07...
> > > I just installed a lift on my 93 4cy, no hardtop wrangler about a
month
> > ago.
> > > The springs are 4" custom made and I also have about an inch and half
> lift
> > > shackles. Finally got to ramp it today and got maybe a 600... These
> > > springs are DAMN stiff and not providing much flex. I don't
anticipate
> > > these things sagging and keeping that in mind, I'd like to know what
> ya'll
> > > out there have done or come up with to help your springs soften up.
I'm
> > > running with the r9000's and think I'll set those softer to put more
> work
> > on
> > > the springs but other than that I don't have any ideas. Maybe park it
> > every
> > > night ramped????!!!!
> > > Please don't bash my rig, if that's your first thought don't bother
F'N
> > > responding. I'm tired of seeing that crap on here.
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
if the shocks are too short, then ramping will suck.
Set the shocks to the softest setting, and the bouncing will go down a
little bit. The stiff shocks cause the Jeep to ride very harsh, but softer
shocks will let the springs take up some of the uneven road surface
conditions, if they are gong to. I have ProComp springs, and if I had it to
do over again, I wouldn't do ProComps; they are very stiff. My Jeep doesn't
bounce at all, and my 9000s are set to 1.
Before you do anything drastic, try backing off the bolts on the shackles
like another poster suggested. I might need to try that because I think I
probably cranked them up pretty tight thinking this would help to keep them
from falling off.
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:Q5oOa.2459$7e.2175@fed1read07...
> They are some custom springs that were made down in Tucson Az... I don't
> think they are a brand. I had the shocks set soft but about get
motionsick
> every time I drive! I set 3 in front and 4 in back. The 3 takes some
> kerthump off the front cause the weight of the engine and the 4's in back
> keep my Jeep settled down after bumps instead of dolphining down the road.
> I might end up having to pull the whole thing apart again and remove some
> leafs...not something I look forward to!
> Nick
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vgk30q43dfn79c@corp.supernews.com...
> > Set those 9000s to the softest setting. Shocks don't have much to do
with
> > ramping well, or not, but they have alot to do with the ride quality.
> >
> > You bought ProComps, huh?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> > news:ThKNa.1960$7e.1320@fed1read07...
> > > I just installed a lift on my 93 4cy, no hardtop wrangler about a
month
> > ago.
> > > The springs are 4" custom made and I also have about an inch and half
> lift
> > > shackles. Finally got to ramp it today and got maybe a 600... These
> > > springs are DAMN stiff and not providing much flex. I don't
anticipate
> > > these things sagging and keeping that in mind, I'd like to know what
> ya'll
> > > out there have done or come up with to help your springs soften up.
I'm
> > > running with the r9000's and think I'll set those softer to put more
> work
> > on
> > > the springs but other than that I don't have any ideas. Maybe park it
> > every
> > > night ramped????!!!!
> > > Please don't bash my rig, if that's your first thought don't bother
F'N
> > > responding. I'm tired of seeing that crap on here.
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Need softer springs...
HHhhhmmm, Well, can't explain that one. They are very springy and stiff,
both... It may depend on um, well you know how a shock will push back only
as hard as pushed, or how a bullet proff vest has the same principle, you
can slide a knife into one but can't get a bullet to penetrate. Maybe the
same with my springs. Slow pressure they stay stiff and hitting them hard
they sping alot...or some crap like that...it's to late to be getting
theorieticle...
Nick
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F0A397B.CC0D86C3@sympatico.ca...
> Woah there boy!
>
> Back up a bit now....
>
> You can make your YJ 'dolphin' and can get 'motion sick' with freaking
> shocks still on it???!!!!
>
> And you think you need softer springs??????
>
> ROTFLMAO!
both... It may depend on um, well you know how a shock will push back only
as hard as pushed, or how a bullet proff vest has the same principle, you
can slide a knife into one but can't get a bullet to penetrate. Maybe the
same with my springs. Slow pressure they stay stiff and hitting them hard
they sping alot...or some crap like that...it's to late to be getting
theorieticle...
Nick
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F0A397B.CC0D86C3@sympatico.ca...
> Woah there boy!
>
> Back up a bit now....
>
> You can make your YJ 'dolphin' and can get 'motion sick' with freaking
> shocks still on it???!!!!
>
> And you think you need softer springs??????
>
> ROTFLMAO!
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Re: Need softer springs...
When you get some sleep (which I need to do the same) try and be more
specific. Mike is right. If your springs are bouncy when you set your
shocks to soft, stiff springs sets are not your problem. Shocks, maybe.
Nick N wrote:
> HHhhhmmm, Well, can't explain that one. They are very springy and stiff,
> both... It may depend on um, well you know how a shock will push back only
> as hard as pushed, or how a bullet proff vest has the same principle, you
> can slide a knife into one but can't get a bullet to penetrate. Maybe the
> same with my springs. Slow pressure they stay stiff and hitting them hard
> they sping alot...or some crap like that...it's to late to be getting
> theorieticle...
> Nick
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F0A397B.CC0D86C3@sympatico.ca...
>
>>Woah there boy!
>>
>>Back up a bit now....
>>
>>You can make your YJ 'dolphin' and can get 'motion sick' with freaking
>>shocks still on it???!!!!
>>
>>And you think you need softer springs??????
>>
>>ROTFLMAO!
>
>
>
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specific. Mike is right. If your springs are bouncy when you set your
shocks to soft, stiff springs sets are not your problem. Shocks, maybe.
Nick N wrote:
> HHhhhmmm, Well, can't explain that one. They are very springy and stiff,
> both... It may depend on um, well you know how a shock will push back only
> as hard as pushed, or how a bullet proff vest has the same principle, you
> can slide a knife into one but can't get a bullet to penetrate. Maybe the
> same with my springs. Slow pressure they stay stiff and hitting them hard
> they sping alot...or some crap like that...it's to late to be getting
> theorieticle...
> Nick
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F0A397B.CC0D86C3@sympatico.ca...
>
>>Woah there boy!
>>
>>Back up a bit now....
>>
>>You can make your YJ 'dolphin' and can get 'motion sick' with freaking
>>shocks still on it???!!!!
>>
>>And you think you need softer springs??????
>>
>>ROTFLMAO!
>
>
>
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03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
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Re: Need softer springs...
You are or could be describing shackle bushings that need some lube or
are 'way' too tight.
You also might just need to take it out and give it a real good bounce
or 20.
Steve Seppala put a 4.5" trailmaster (I think) set on his YJ and found
it a bit stiff.
He then came on one of our bush runs....
After the first day, Steve was freaked out figuring something had let
loose, his steering wheel had even clocked 1/4 turn off on him.
Nothing loose. The spring packs just loosened up and settled in place.
This caused the drag link to be set too long moving his steering wheel a
1/4 turn.
Mike
Nick N wrote:
>
> HHhhhmmm, Well, can't explain that one. They are very springy and stiff,
> both... It may depend on um, well you know how a shock will push back only
> as hard as pushed, or how a bullet proff vest has the same principle, you
> can slide a knife into one but can't get a bullet to penetrate. Maybe the
> same with my springs. Slow pressure they stay stiff and hitting them hard
> they sping alot...or some crap like that...it's to late to be getting
> theorieticle...
> Nick
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F0A397B.CC0D86C3@sympatico.ca...
> > Woah there boy!
> >
> > Back up a bit now....
> >
> > You can make your YJ 'dolphin' and can get 'motion sick' with freaking
> > shocks still on it???!!!!
> >
> > And you think you need softer springs??????
> >
> > ROTFLMAO!
are 'way' too tight.
You also might just need to take it out and give it a real good bounce
or 20.
Steve Seppala put a 4.5" trailmaster (I think) set on his YJ and found
it a bit stiff.
He then came on one of our bush runs....
After the first day, Steve was freaked out figuring something had let
loose, his steering wheel had even clocked 1/4 turn off on him.
Nothing loose. The spring packs just loosened up and settled in place.
This caused the drag link to be set too long moving his steering wheel a
1/4 turn.
Mike
Nick N wrote:
>
> HHhhhmmm, Well, can't explain that one. They are very springy and stiff,
> both... It may depend on um, well you know how a shock will push back only
> as hard as pushed, or how a bullet proff vest has the same principle, you
> can slide a knife into one but can't get a bullet to penetrate. Maybe the
> same with my springs. Slow pressure they stay stiff and hitting them hard
> they sping alot...or some crap like that...it's to late to be getting
> theorieticle...
> Nick
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F0A397B.CC0D86C3@sympatico.ca...
> > Woah there boy!
> >
> > Back up a bit now....
> >
> > You can make your YJ 'dolphin' and can get 'motion sick' with freaking
> > shocks still on it???!!!!
> >
> > And you think you need softer springs??????
> >
> > ROTFLMAO!
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