Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
Is Perl Lite anything like Natural Light? Being a poor college student
for most of the last 4-5 years, I've had enough Natty Light to know it's pretty much carbonated water with alcohol in it. DougW wrote: > Earle Horton wrote: >> After posting that, I began to wonder if beer would clean carbon any >> better than water does. > > Perl lite, it's about as close to water as you can get. > |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
Is Perl Lite anything like Natural Light? Being a poor college student
for most of the last 4-5 years, I've had enough Natty Light to know it's pretty much carbonated water with alcohol in it. DougW wrote: > Earle Horton wrote: >> After posting that, I began to wonder if beer would clean carbon any >> better than water does. > > Perl lite, it's about as close to water as you can get. > |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
After posting that, I began to wonder if beer would clean carbon any better
than water does. Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f861c7$0$4892$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > What do you mean 'used to'???? > ;-) > > Mike > > Earle Horton wrote: > > They used to use beer for hangover remedy too. > > > > Earle > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:45f85eba$0$3958$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > >> I only know what works for sure from experience, > >> > >> I haven't tried water yet. > >> > >> I learned this back in the 70's and 80's from mechanics that used ATF to > >> decarbon 'city driven' V8's as part of a major tune up or for run on > >> like the OP has. > >> > >> They also used this treatment before a valve job or head gasket replace, > >> which I have done now many times. They turn out clean as new with ATF. > >> On my my last headgasket job I used it, but didn't drive it after > >> before pulling it apart and got photos of some 1/16" slabs of carbon > >> still left loose inside. > >> > >> It was used in every garage I ever worked in which was a few over the > >> years. I never saw water used. > >> > >> I do know how water will shock clean hot metal though. I use it on > >> dirty wood stoves and cast iron fry pans with burned on stuff or on pans > >> to de-glaze the stuck stuff for gravy or sauce. > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> Jerry Bransford wrote: > >>> Mike, I've never understood why some always recommend ATF which costs > >>> money over water which does not cost money. Water works just fine, I > >>> know of no benefit whatsoever to using ATF over water. > >>> > >>> Do you know of some benefit that ATF provides over water when used for > >>> > >>> this purpose? > >>> > >>> Mike Romain wrote: > >>>> No you need a steady slow stream of 'water' to shock the carbon off. > >>>> > >>>> I have had excellent results using a pint of ATF instead of water to > >>> do > >>>> this. The ATF makes a massive cloud of smoke though. I have heard > >>> from > >>>> enough people about the water instead that I will use that next time > >>> and > >>>> see how it goes. > >>>> > >>>> Mike > >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >>>> > >>>> Steve Foley wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Would a spray-bottle work better than pouring it in? I have one I > >>> use to > >>>> check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for > >>> the > >>>> light-show. > >>>> > >>>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >>>> news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get > >>> rid > >>>> of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly > >>> (!!) > >>>> feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine > >>> is > >>>> running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause > >>>> hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled > >>>> manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and > >>>> maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly > >>> by > >>>> accident. > >>>> > > > > |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
After posting that, I began to wonder if beer would clean carbon any better
than water does. Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f861c7$0$4892$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > What do you mean 'used to'???? > ;-) > > Mike > > Earle Horton wrote: > > They used to use beer for hangover remedy too. > > > > Earle > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:45f85eba$0$3958$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > >> I only know what works for sure from experience, > >> > >> I haven't tried water yet. > >> > >> I learned this back in the 70's and 80's from mechanics that used ATF to > >> decarbon 'city driven' V8's as part of a major tune up or for run on > >> like the OP has. > >> > >> They also used this treatment before a valve job or head gasket replace, > >> which I have done now many times. They turn out clean as new with ATF. > >> On my my last headgasket job I used it, but didn't drive it after > >> before pulling it apart and got photos of some 1/16" slabs of carbon > >> still left loose inside. > >> > >> It was used in every garage I ever worked in which was a few over the > >> years. I never saw water used. > >> > >> I do know how water will shock clean hot metal though. I use it on > >> dirty wood stoves and cast iron fry pans with burned on stuff or on pans > >> to de-glaze the stuck stuff for gravy or sauce. > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> Jerry Bransford wrote: > >>> Mike, I've never understood why some always recommend ATF which costs > >>> money over water which does not cost money. Water works just fine, I > >>> know of no benefit whatsoever to using ATF over water. > >>> > >>> Do you know of some benefit that ATF provides over water when used for > >>> > >>> this purpose? > >>> > >>> Mike Romain wrote: > >>>> No you need a steady slow stream of 'water' to shock the carbon off. > >>>> > >>>> I have had excellent results using a pint of ATF instead of water to > >>> do > >>>> this. The ATF makes a massive cloud of smoke though. I have heard > >>> from > >>>> enough people about the water instead that I will use that next time > >>> and > >>>> see how it goes. > >>>> > >>>> Mike > >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >>>> > >>>> Steve Foley wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Would a spray-bottle work better than pouring it in? I have one I > >>> use to > >>>> check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for > >>> the > >>>> light-show. > >>>> > >>>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >>>> news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get > >>> rid > >>>> of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly > >>> (!!) > >>>> feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine > >>> is > >>>> running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause > >>>> hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled > >>>> manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and > >>>> maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly > >>> by > >>>> accident. > >>>> > > > > |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
After posting that, I began to wonder if beer would clean carbon any better
than water does. Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f861c7$0$4892$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > What do you mean 'used to'???? > ;-) > > Mike > > Earle Horton wrote: > > They used to use beer for hangover remedy too. > > > > Earle > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:45f85eba$0$3958$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > >> I only know what works for sure from experience, > >> > >> I haven't tried water yet. > >> > >> I learned this back in the 70's and 80's from mechanics that used ATF to > >> decarbon 'city driven' V8's as part of a major tune up or for run on > >> like the OP has. > >> > >> They also used this treatment before a valve job or head gasket replace, > >> which I have done now many times. They turn out clean as new with ATF. > >> On my my last headgasket job I used it, but didn't drive it after > >> before pulling it apart and got photos of some 1/16" slabs of carbon > >> still left loose inside. > >> > >> It was used in every garage I ever worked in which was a few over the > >> years. I never saw water used. > >> > >> I do know how water will shock clean hot metal though. I use it on > >> dirty wood stoves and cast iron fry pans with burned on stuff or on pans > >> to de-glaze the stuck stuff for gravy or sauce. > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> Jerry Bransford wrote: > >>> Mike, I've never understood why some always recommend ATF which costs > >>> money over water which does not cost money. Water works just fine, I > >>> know of no benefit whatsoever to using ATF over water. > >>> > >>> Do you know of some benefit that ATF provides over water when used for > >>> > >>> this purpose? > >>> > >>> Mike Romain wrote: > >>>> No you need a steady slow stream of 'water' to shock the carbon off. > >>>> > >>>> I have had excellent results using a pint of ATF instead of water to > >>> do > >>>> this. The ATF makes a massive cloud of smoke though. I have heard > >>> from > >>>> enough people about the water instead that I will use that next time > >>> and > >>>> see how it goes. > >>>> > >>>> Mike > >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >>>> > >>>> Steve Foley wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Would a spray-bottle work better than pouring it in? I have one I > >>> use to > >>>> check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for > >>> the > >>>> light-show. > >>>> > >>>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >>>> news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get > >>> rid > >>>> of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly > >>> (!!) > >>>> feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine > >>> is > >>>> running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause > >>>> hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled > >>>> manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and > >>>> maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly > >>> by > >>>> accident. > >>>> > > > > |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
The Merg wrote:
> Is Perl Lite anything like Natural Light? Being a poor college > student for most of the last 4-5 years, I've had enough Natty Light > to know it's pretty much carbonated water with alcohol in it. That's an accurate description. It costed about as much for a full case as Bud did for a six-pack. I called it rubbing alcohol with fizz. > DougW wrote: >> Earle Horton wrote: >>> After posting that, I began to wonder if beer would clean carbon any >>> better than water does. >> >> Perl lite, it's about as close to water as you can get. |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
The Merg wrote:
> Is Perl Lite anything like Natural Light? Being a poor college > student for most of the last 4-5 years, I've had enough Natty Light > to know it's pretty much carbonated water with alcohol in it. That's an accurate description. It costed about as much for a full case as Bud did for a six-pack. I called it rubbing alcohol with fizz. > DougW wrote: >> Earle Horton wrote: >>> After posting that, I began to wonder if beer would clean carbon any >>> better than water does. >> >> Perl lite, it's about as close to water as you can get. |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
The Merg wrote:
> Is Perl Lite anything like Natural Light? Being a poor college > student for most of the last 4-5 years, I've had enough Natty Light > to know it's pretty much carbonated water with alcohol in it. That's an accurate description. It costed about as much for a full case as Bud did for a six-pack. I called it rubbing alcohol with fizz. > DougW wrote: >> Earle Horton wrote: >>> After posting that, I began to wonder if beer would clean carbon any >>> better than water does. >> >> Perl lite, it's about as close to water as you can get. |
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