Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
They used to use beer for hangover remedy too.
Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f85eba$0$3958$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > I only know what works for sure from experience, > > I haven't tried water yet. > > I learned this back in the 70's and 80's from mechanics that used ATF to > decarbon 'city driven' V8's as part of a major tune up or for run on > like the OP has. > > They also used this treatment before a valve job or head gasket replace, > which I have done now many times. They turn out clean as new with ATF. > On my my last headgasket job I used it, but didn't drive it after > before pulling it apart and got photos of some 1/16" slabs of carbon > still left loose inside. > > It was used in every garage I ever worked in which was a few over the > years. I never saw water used. > > I do know how water will shock clean hot metal though. I use it on > dirty wood stoves and cast iron fry pans with burned on stuff or on pans > to de-glaze the stuck stuff for gravy or sauce. > > Mike > > Jerry Bransford wrote: > > Mike, I've never understood why some always recommend ATF which costs > > money over water which does not cost money. Water works just fine, I > > know of no benefit whatsoever to using ATF over water. > > > > Do you know of some benefit that ATF provides over water when used for > > > > this purpose? > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > >> No you need a steady slow stream of 'water' to shock the carbon off. > >> > >> I have had excellent results using a pint of ATF instead of water to > > do > >> this. The ATF makes a massive cloud of smoke though. I have heard > > from > >> enough people about the water instead that I will use that next time > > and > >> see how it goes. > >> > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >> > >> Steve Foley wrote: > >> > >> Would a spray-bottle work better than pouring it in? I have one I > > use to > >> check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for > > the > >> light-show. > >> > >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >> news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07... > >> > >> > >> The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get > > rid > >> of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly > > (!!) > >> feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine > > is > >> running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause > >> hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled > >> manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and > >> maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly > > by > >> accident. > >> |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
They used to use beer for hangover remedy too.
Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f85eba$0$3958$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > I only know what works for sure from experience, > > I haven't tried water yet. > > I learned this back in the 70's and 80's from mechanics that used ATF to > decarbon 'city driven' V8's as part of a major tune up or for run on > like the OP has. > > They also used this treatment before a valve job or head gasket replace, > which I have done now many times. They turn out clean as new with ATF. > On my my last headgasket job I used it, but didn't drive it after > before pulling it apart and got photos of some 1/16" slabs of carbon > still left loose inside. > > It was used in every garage I ever worked in which was a few over the > years. I never saw water used. > > I do know how water will shock clean hot metal though. I use it on > dirty wood stoves and cast iron fry pans with burned on stuff or on pans > to de-glaze the stuck stuff for gravy or sauce. > > Mike > > Jerry Bransford wrote: > > Mike, I've never understood why some always recommend ATF which costs > > money over water which does not cost money. Water works just fine, I > > know of no benefit whatsoever to using ATF over water. > > > > Do you know of some benefit that ATF provides over water when used for > > > > this purpose? > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > >> No you need a steady slow stream of 'water' to shock the carbon off. > >> > >> I have had excellent results using a pint of ATF instead of water to > > do > >> this. The ATF makes a massive cloud of smoke though. I have heard > > from > >> enough people about the water instead that I will use that next time > > and > >> see how it goes. > >> > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >> > >> Steve Foley wrote: > >> > >> Would a spray-bottle work better than pouring it in? I have one I > > use to > >> check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for > > the > >> light-show. > >> > >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >> news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07... > >> > >> > >> The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get > > rid > >> of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly > > (!!) > >> feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine > > is > >> running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause > >> hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled > >> manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and > >> maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly > > by > >> accident. > >> |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
They used to use beer for hangover remedy too.
Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f85eba$0$3958$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > I only know what works for sure from experience, > > I haven't tried water yet. > > I learned this back in the 70's and 80's from mechanics that used ATF to > decarbon 'city driven' V8's as part of a major tune up or for run on > like the OP has. > > They also used this treatment before a valve job or head gasket replace, > which I have done now many times. They turn out clean as new with ATF. > On my my last headgasket job I used it, but didn't drive it after > before pulling it apart and got photos of some 1/16" slabs of carbon > still left loose inside. > > It was used in every garage I ever worked in which was a few over the > years. I never saw water used. > > I do know how water will shock clean hot metal though. I use it on > dirty wood stoves and cast iron fry pans with burned on stuff or on pans > to de-glaze the stuck stuff for gravy or sauce. > > Mike > > Jerry Bransford wrote: > > Mike, I've never understood why some always recommend ATF which costs > > money over water which does not cost money. Water works just fine, I > > know of no benefit whatsoever to using ATF over water. > > > > Do you know of some benefit that ATF provides over water when used for > > > > this purpose? > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > >> No you need a steady slow stream of 'water' to shock the carbon off. > >> > >> I have had excellent results using a pint of ATF instead of water to > > do > >> this. The ATF makes a massive cloud of smoke though. I have heard > > from > >> enough people about the water instead that I will use that next time > > and > >> see how it goes. > >> > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >> > >> Steve Foley wrote: > >> > >> Would a spray-bottle work better than pouring it in? I have one I > > use to > >> check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for > > the > >> light-show. > >> > >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >> news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07... > >> > >> > >> The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get > > rid > >> of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly > > (!!) > >> feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine > > is > >> running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause > >> hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled > >> manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and > >> maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly > > by > >> accident. > >> |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
Something about the hair of the dog that bit you.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f861c7$0$4892$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > What do you mean 'used to'???? > ;-) > > Mike -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
Something about the hair of the dog that bit you.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f861c7$0$4892$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > What do you mean 'used to'???? > ;-) > > Mike -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
Something about the hair of the dog that bit you.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f861c7$0$4892$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > What do you mean 'used to'???? > ;-) > > Mike -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
Earle Horton wrote:
> After posting that, I began to wonder if beer would clean carbon any > better than water does. Perl lite, it's about as close to water as you can get. -- DougW |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
Earle Horton wrote:
> After posting that, I began to wonder if beer would clean carbon any > better than water does. Perl lite, it's about as close to water as you can get. -- DougW |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
Earle Horton wrote:
> After posting that, I began to wonder if beer would clean carbon any > better than water does. Perl lite, it's about as close to water as you can get. -- DougW |
Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
Is Perl Lite anything like Natural Light? Being a poor college student
for most of the last 4-5 years, I've had enough Natty Light to know it's pretty much carbonated water with alcohol in it. DougW wrote: > Earle Horton wrote: >> After posting that, I began to wonder if beer would clean carbon any >> better than water does. > > Perl lite, it's about as close to water as you can get. > |
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