Question on Jeep Liberty
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
You will hear a lot of whack out people who have had thier brains
turned to a loofa from sniffing too much unburnt exhause fumes
claiming that only 'real' jeeps were made during the 50's and have to
have chevy motors transplanted into them. I have to tell you the
*Really REAL* Jeeps were made during the '40s. That bunch of trolling
out of the way know this: In Texas you have 4 inch an hour frog
strangling tropical down pours.
How many times a year have you been driving down the road at 70 mph
and then boom, thirty seconds later you cannot see the end of the
hood. It happens to me at least twice a year. You get caught in
these several times each year too. This is why you want the Selectrac
*AND* the ABS. You will hear from some very vocal ethnocentric people
in this group that the only place anyone ever drives anything 4 wheel
is on dry rocks in the desert, which you and I (I am in Houston) never
get near. You will just be so much better served by a Liberty than a
CJ3B with a 6 inch lift, 38 super swampers and a small block chevy
transplant that it is not funny.
Do a google on my name in this news group and it should turn up a
bunch of my evangelical rantings about how good a Liberty is and what
it can and can't do.
My most recent adventure was the weekend before turky day. I was
given an old DEC pdp computer which was in a double wide relay rack,
6ft wide, 8ft tall, weight pushing a ton. I put this on Mom's low-boy
trailer, chinched a come-a-long across the top to keep it from falling
over and lit out across Houston for the house pulling it with the 99
TJ. The TJ has the nice 6 and is a little bit peppy. However it is
short wheel base, and the old computer is acting like a big sail and
the rig is squirreling all over the road. I dared not get on the
freeway with it, which meant driving down Washington and up Shephard
in the middle of the night (at least I was in good company with all
the other mentally deficients out in that part of the world that time
of a saturday night). The next day when Wife got back from girl scout
camp with the Liberty I used the Liberty to haul the trailor up to the
farm, about a hundred miles. No problems. Moral of story: you can
put a dead TJ on a trailer and haul it with a Liberty, you cannot haul
a Liberty with a TJ.
Crim <jeep@reactor.org> wrote in message news:<3ae9uvgibffbre1tq0gmr8tslffh7bm64n@4ax.com>. ..
> Personally, for the money that you have mentioned, I'd get (and I
> have) a used late model Grand Cherokee, fully loaded from Carmax.
This is a pretty good option to consider also, especially with regard
to being caught in a sudden storm.
turned to a loofa from sniffing too much unburnt exhause fumes
claiming that only 'real' jeeps were made during the 50's and have to
have chevy motors transplanted into them. I have to tell you the
*Really REAL* Jeeps were made during the '40s. That bunch of trolling
out of the way know this: In Texas you have 4 inch an hour frog
strangling tropical down pours.
How many times a year have you been driving down the road at 70 mph
and then boom, thirty seconds later you cannot see the end of the
hood. It happens to me at least twice a year. You get caught in
these several times each year too. This is why you want the Selectrac
*AND* the ABS. You will hear from some very vocal ethnocentric people
in this group that the only place anyone ever drives anything 4 wheel
is on dry rocks in the desert, which you and I (I am in Houston) never
get near. You will just be so much better served by a Liberty than a
CJ3B with a 6 inch lift, 38 super swampers and a small block chevy
transplant that it is not funny.
Do a google on my name in this news group and it should turn up a
bunch of my evangelical rantings about how good a Liberty is and what
it can and can't do.
My most recent adventure was the weekend before turky day. I was
given an old DEC pdp computer which was in a double wide relay rack,
6ft wide, 8ft tall, weight pushing a ton. I put this on Mom's low-boy
trailer, chinched a come-a-long across the top to keep it from falling
over and lit out across Houston for the house pulling it with the 99
TJ. The TJ has the nice 6 and is a little bit peppy. However it is
short wheel base, and the old computer is acting like a big sail and
the rig is squirreling all over the road. I dared not get on the
freeway with it, which meant driving down Washington and up Shephard
in the middle of the night (at least I was in good company with all
the other mentally deficients out in that part of the world that time
of a saturday night). The next day when Wife got back from girl scout
camp with the Liberty I used the Liberty to haul the trailor up to the
farm, about a hundred miles. No problems. Moral of story: you can
put a dead TJ on a trailer and haul it with a Liberty, you cannot haul
a Liberty with a TJ.
Crim <jeep@reactor.org> wrote in message news:<3ae9uvgibffbre1tq0gmr8tslffh7bm64n@4ax.com>. ..
> Personally, for the money that you have mentioned, I'd get (and I
> have) a used late model Grand Cherokee, fully loaded from Carmax.
This is a pretty good option to consider also, especially with regard
to being caught in a sudden storm.
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
You will hear a lot of whack out people who have had thier brains
turned to a loofa from sniffing too much unburnt exhause fumes
claiming that only 'real' jeeps were made during the 50's and have to
have chevy motors transplanted into them. I have to tell you the
*Really REAL* Jeeps were made during the '40s. That bunch of trolling
out of the way know this: In Texas you have 4 inch an hour frog
strangling tropical down pours.
How many times a year have you been driving down the road at 70 mph
and then boom, thirty seconds later you cannot see the end of the
hood. It happens to me at least twice a year. You get caught in
these several times each year too. This is why you want the Selectrac
*AND* the ABS. You will hear from some very vocal ethnocentric people
in this group that the only place anyone ever drives anything 4 wheel
is on dry rocks in the desert, which you and I (I am in Houston) never
get near. You will just be so much better served by a Liberty than a
CJ3B with a 6 inch lift, 38 super swampers and a small block chevy
transplant that it is not funny.
Do a google on my name in this news group and it should turn up a
bunch of my evangelical rantings about how good a Liberty is and what
it can and can't do.
My most recent adventure was the weekend before turky day. I was
given an old DEC pdp computer which was in a double wide relay rack,
6ft wide, 8ft tall, weight pushing a ton. I put this on Mom's low-boy
trailer, chinched a come-a-long across the top to keep it from falling
over and lit out across Houston for the house pulling it with the 99
TJ. The TJ has the nice 6 and is a little bit peppy. However it is
short wheel base, and the old computer is acting like a big sail and
the rig is squirreling all over the road. I dared not get on the
freeway with it, which meant driving down Washington and up Shephard
in the middle of the night (at least I was in good company with all
the other mentally deficients out in that part of the world that time
of a saturday night). The next day when Wife got back from girl scout
camp with the Liberty I used the Liberty to haul the trailor up to the
farm, about a hundred miles. No problems. Moral of story: you can
put a dead TJ on a trailer and haul it with a Liberty, you cannot haul
a Liberty with a TJ.
Crim <jeep@reactor.org> wrote in message news:<3ae9uvgibffbre1tq0gmr8tslffh7bm64n@4ax.com>. ..
> Personally, for the money that you have mentioned, I'd get (and I
> have) a used late model Grand Cherokee, fully loaded from Carmax.
This is a pretty good option to consider also, especially with regard
to being caught in a sudden storm.
turned to a loofa from sniffing too much unburnt exhause fumes
claiming that only 'real' jeeps were made during the 50's and have to
have chevy motors transplanted into them. I have to tell you the
*Really REAL* Jeeps were made during the '40s. That bunch of trolling
out of the way know this: In Texas you have 4 inch an hour frog
strangling tropical down pours.
How many times a year have you been driving down the road at 70 mph
and then boom, thirty seconds later you cannot see the end of the
hood. It happens to me at least twice a year. You get caught in
these several times each year too. This is why you want the Selectrac
*AND* the ABS. You will hear from some very vocal ethnocentric people
in this group that the only place anyone ever drives anything 4 wheel
is on dry rocks in the desert, which you and I (I am in Houston) never
get near. You will just be so much better served by a Liberty than a
CJ3B with a 6 inch lift, 38 super swampers and a small block chevy
transplant that it is not funny.
Do a google on my name in this news group and it should turn up a
bunch of my evangelical rantings about how good a Liberty is and what
it can and can't do.
My most recent adventure was the weekend before turky day. I was
given an old DEC pdp computer which was in a double wide relay rack,
6ft wide, 8ft tall, weight pushing a ton. I put this on Mom's low-boy
trailer, chinched a come-a-long across the top to keep it from falling
over and lit out across Houston for the house pulling it with the 99
TJ. The TJ has the nice 6 and is a little bit peppy. However it is
short wheel base, and the old computer is acting like a big sail and
the rig is squirreling all over the road. I dared not get on the
freeway with it, which meant driving down Washington and up Shephard
in the middle of the night (at least I was in good company with all
the other mentally deficients out in that part of the world that time
of a saturday night). The next day when Wife got back from girl scout
camp with the Liberty I used the Liberty to haul the trailor up to the
farm, about a hundred miles. No problems. Moral of story: you can
put a dead TJ on a trailer and haul it with a Liberty, you cannot haul
a Liberty with a TJ.
Crim <jeep@reactor.org> wrote in message news:<3ae9uvgibffbre1tq0gmr8tslffh7bm64n@4ax.com>. ..
> Personally, for the money that you have mentioned, I'd get (and I
> have) a used late model Grand Cherokee, fully loaded from Carmax.
This is a pretty good option to consider also, especially with regard
to being caught in a sudden storm.
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
>You will hear a lot of whack out people who have had thier brains
>turned to a loofa from sniffing too much unburnt exhause fumes
>claiming that only 'real' jeeps were made during the 50's and have to
>have chevy motors transplanted into them. I have to tell you the
>*Really REAL* Jeeps were made during the '40s. That bunch of trolling
>out of the way know this: In Texas you have 4 inch an hour frog
>strangling tropical down pours.
I guess the theory is that the Liberty is good enough for what 95% of the
truck buying market would want to do with it, and the other 5% would want a
modded Wrangler instead. Whether is is good enough for you depends on if you
can live with the limited space compared to a Grand or a Cherokee, and how
nuts you want to go offroad.
Besides the space issue, the thing I don't like about it is the fact that it
looks cheaply built to me- don't know if this is true of the whole vehicle or
just the cosmetics. But then again most vehicles are like that nowdays.
--
Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
Bloomington, MN to email, remove the "q" from my address
>turned to a loofa from sniffing too much unburnt exhause fumes
>claiming that only 'real' jeeps were made during the 50's and have to
>have chevy motors transplanted into them. I have to tell you the
>*Really REAL* Jeeps were made during the '40s. That bunch of trolling
>out of the way know this: In Texas you have 4 inch an hour frog
>strangling tropical down pours.
I guess the theory is that the Liberty is good enough for what 95% of the
truck buying market would want to do with it, and the other 5% would want a
modded Wrangler instead. Whether is is good enough for you depends on if you
can live with the limited space compared to a Grand or a Cherokee, and how
nuts you want to go offroad.
Besides the space issue, the thing I don't like about it is the fact that it
looks cheaply built to me- don't know if this is true of the whole vehicle or
just the cosmetics. But then again most vehicles are like that nowdays.
--
Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
Bloomington, MN to email, remove the "q" from my address
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
>You will hear a lot of whack out people who have had thier brains
>turned to a loofa from sniffing too much unburnt exhause fumes
>claiming that only 'real' jeeps were made during the 50's and have to
>have chevy motors transplanted into them. I have to tell you the
>*Really REAL* Jeeps were made during the '40s. That bunch of trolling
>out of the way know this: In Texas you have 4 inch an hour frog
>strangling tropical down pours.
I guess the theory is that the Liberty is good enough for what 95% of the
truck buying market would want to do with it, and the other 5% would want a
modded Wrangler instead. Whether is is good enough for you depends on if you
can live with the limited space compared to a Grand or a Cherokee, and how
nuts you want to go offroad.
Besides the space issue, the thing I don't like about it is the fact that it
looks cheaply built to me- don't know if this is true of the whole vehicle or
just the cosmetics. But then again most vehicles are like that nowdays.
--
Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
Bloomington, MN to email, remove the "q" from my address
>turned to a loofa from sniffing too much unburnt exhause fumes
>claiming that only 'real' jeeps were made during the 50's and have to
>have chevy motors transplanted into them. I have to tell you the
>*Really REAL* Jeeps were made during the '40s. That bunch of trolling
>out of the way know this: In Texas you have 4 inch an hour frog
>strangling tropical down pours.
I guess the theory is that the Liberty is good enough for what 95% of the
truck buying market would want to do with it, and the other 5% would want a
modded Wrangler instead. Whether is is good enough for you depends on if you
can live with the limited space compared to a Grand or a Cherokee, and how
nuts you want to go offroad.
Besides the space issue, the thing I don't like about it is the fact that it
looks cheaply built to me- don't know if this is true of the whole vehicle or
just the cosmetics. But then again most vehicles are like that nowdays.
--
Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
Bloomington, MN to email, remove the "q" from my address
Guest
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
>You will hear a lot of whack out people who have had thier brains
>turned to a loofa from sniffing too much unburnt exhause fumes
>claiming that only 'real' jeeps were made during the 50's and have to
>have chevy motors transplanted into them. I have to tell you the
>*Really REAL* Jeeps were made during the '40s. That bunch of trolling
>out of the way know this: In Texas you have 4 inch an hour frog
>strangling tropical down pours.
I guess the theory is that the Liberty is good enough for what 95% of the
truck buying market would want to do with it, and the other 5% would want a
modded Wrangler instead. Whether is is good enough for you depends on if you
can live with the limited space compared to a Grand or a Cherokee, and how
nuts you want to go offroad.
Besides the space issue, the thing I don't like about it is the fact that it
looks cheaply built to me- don't know if this is true of the whole vehicle or
just the cosmetics. But then again most vehicles are like that nowdays.
--
Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
Bloomington, MN to email, remove the "q" from my address
>turned to a loofa from sniffing too much unburnt exhause fumes
>claiming that only 'real' jeeps were made during the 50's and have to
>have chevy motors transplanted into them. I have to tell you the
>*Really REAL* Jeeps were made during the '40s. That bunch of trolling
>out of the way know this: In Texas you have 4 inch an hour frog
>strangling tropical down pours.
I guess the theory is that the Liberty is good enough for what 95% of the
truck buying market would want to do with it, and the other 5% would want a
modded Wrangler instead. Whether is is good enough for you depends on if you
can live with the limited space compared to a Grand or a Cherokee, and how
nuts you want to go offroad.
Besides the space issue, the thing I don't like about it is the fact that it
looks cheaply built to me- don't know if this is true of the whole vehicle or
just the cosmetics. But then again most vehicles are like that nowdays.
--
Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
Bloomington, MN to email, remove the "q" from my address
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
tooplanecrazy7@aol.com (TooPlaneCrazy7) wrote in
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com:
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
Do you ever get ice storms? Do you ever travel to places where they do?
If so, that full time 4X4 could come in handy for roads with patchy ice.
but if you're down in the valley where mud and sand are your only
obstacles, then you probably don't.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
I absolutely love mine. I bought it to replace a Ford Explorer, and find
that like the Explorer, its a great comfortable ride for someone who only
occasionally needs 4x4 or high clearance. I think many of the negative
comments you see here are from people who judge vehicles purely by their
ability to navigate extreme off road terrain.
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com:
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
Do you ever get ice storms? Do you ever travel to places where they do?
If so, that full time 4X4 could come in handy for roads with patchy ice.
but if you're down in the valley where mud and sand are your only
obstacles, then you probably don't.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
I absolutely love mine. I bought it to replace a Ford Explorer, and find
that like the Explorer, its a great comfortable ride for someone who only
occasionally needs 4x4 or high clearance. I think many of the negative
comments you see here are from people who judge vehicles purely by their
ability to navigate extreme off road terrain.
Guest
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
tooplanecrazy7@aol.com (TooPlaneCrazy7) wrote in
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com:
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
Do you ever get ice storms? Do you ever travel to places where they do?
If so, that full time 4X4 could come in handy for roads with patchy ice.
but if you're down in the valley where mud and sand are your only
obstacles, then you probably don't.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
I absolutely love mine. I bought it to replace a Ford Explorer, and find
that like the Explorer, its a great comfortable ride for someone who only
occasionally needs 4x4 or high clearance. I think many of the negative
comments you see here are from people who judge vehicles purely by their
ability to navigate extreme off road terrain.
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com:
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
Do you ever get ice storms? Do you ever travel to places where they do?
If so, that full time 4X4 could come in handy for roads with patchy ice.
but if you're down in the valley where mud and sand are your only
obstacles, then you probably don't.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
I absolutely love mine. I bought it to replace a Ford Explorer, and find
that like the Explorer, its a great comfortable ride for someone who only
occasionally needs 4x4 or high clearance. I think many of the negative
comments you see here are from people who judge vehicles purely by their
ability to navigate extreme off road terrain.
Guest
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
tooplanecrazy7@aol.com (TooPlaneCrazy7) wrote in
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com:
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
Do you ever get ice storms? Do you ever travel to places where they do?
If so, that full time 4X4 could come in handy for roads with patchy ice.
but if you're down in the valley where mud and sand are your only
obstacles, then you probably don't.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
I absolutely love mine. I bought it to replace a Ford Explorer, and find
that like the Explorer, its a great comfortable ride for someone who only
occasionally needs 4x4 or high clearance. I think many of the negative
comments you see here are from people who judge vehicles purely by their
ability to navigate extreme off road terrain.
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com:
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
Do you ever get ice storms? Do you ever travel to places where they do?
If so, that full time 4X4 could come in handy for roads with patchy ice.
but if you're down in the valley where mud and sand are your only
obstacles, then you probably don't.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
I absolutely love mine. I bought it to replace a Ford Explorer, and find
that like the Explorer, its a great comfortable ride for someone who only
occasionally needs 4x4 or high clearance. I think many of the negative
comments you see here are from people who judge vehicles purely by their
ability to navigate extreme off road terrain.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
I'm in New England - snow and ice all the damn time. Liberty's been a
tough little commuter & so far part time 4X4 is just fine for most
storms. Works well for hour long suburban commute (range of 20-60
mph). I put one bag of 70lb tube sand over rear axle to make the ride
a little more solid in winter. Milage challenged but of small SUVs
this one's a little heavier so it's worth it for me. Poor internal
storage places.
Barry Bean <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message news:<Xns94596F645FD5Beatmorecotton@207.14.113.17> ...
> tooplanecrazy7@aol.com (TooPlaneCrazy7) wrote in
> news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com:
>
> >
> > Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
> >
> > Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
> >
> > overkill?
>
>
> Do you ever get ice storms? Do you ever travel to places where they do?
> If so, that full time 4X4 could come in handy for roads with patchy ice.
> but if you're down in the valley where mud and sand are your only
> obstacles, then you probably don't.
>
> >
> > Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
> I absolutely love mine. I bought it to replace a Ford Explorer, and find
> that like the Explorer, its a great comfortable ride for someone who only
> occasionally needs 4x4 or high clearance. I think many of the negative
> comments you see here are from people who judge vehicles purely by their
> ability to navigate extreme off road terrain.
tough little commuter & so far part time 4X4 is just fine for most
storms. Works well for hour long suburban commute (range of 20-60
mph). I put one bag of 70lb tube sand over rear axle to make the ride
a little more solid in winter. Milage challenged but of small SUVs
this one's a little heavier so it's worth it for me. Poor internal
storage places.
Barry Bean <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message news:<Xns94596F645FD5Beatmorecotton@207.14.113.17> ...
> tooplanecrazy7@aol.com (TooPlaneCrazy7) wrote in
> news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com:
>
> >
> > Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
> >
> > Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
> >
> > overkill?
>
>
> Do you ever get ice storms? Do you ever travel to places where they do?
> If so, that full time 4X4 could come in handy for roads with patchy ice.
> but if you're down in the valley where mud and sand are your only
> obstacles, then you probably don't.
>
> >
> > Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
> I absolutely love mine. I bought it to replace a Ford Explorer, and find
> that like the Explorer, its a great comfortable ride for someone who only
> occasionally needs 4x4 or high clearance. I think many of the negative
> comments you see here are from people who judge vehicles purely by their
> ability to navigate extreme off road terrain.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
I'm in New England - snow and ice all the damn time. Liberty's been a
tough little commuter & so far part time 4X4 is just fine for most
storms. Works well for hour long suburban commute (range of 20-60
mph). I put one bag of 70lb tube sand over rear axle to make the ride
a little more solid in winter. Milage challenged but of small SUVs
this one's a little heavier so it's worth it for me. Poor internal
storage places.
Barry Bean <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message news:<Xns94596F645FD5Beatmorecotton@207.14.113.17> ...
> tooplanecrazy7@aol.com (TooPlaneCrazy7) wrote in
> news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com:
>
> >
> > Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
> >
> > Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
> >
> > overkill?
>
>
> Do you ever get ice storms? Do you ever travel to places where they do?
> If so, that full time 4X4 could come in handy for roads with patchy ice.
> but if you're down in the valley where mud and sand are your only
> obstacles, then you probably don't.
>
> >
> > Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
> I absolutely love mine. I bought it to replace a Ford Explorer, and find
> that like the Explorer, its a great comfortable ride for someone who only
> occasionally needs 4x4 or high clearance. I think many of the negative
> comments you see here are from people who judge vehicles purely by their
> ability to navigate extreme off road terrain.
tough little commuter & so far part time 4X4 is just fine for most
storms. Works well for hour long suburban commute (range of 20-60
mph). I put one bag of 70lb tube sand over rear axle to make the ride
a little more solid in winter. Milage challenged but of small SUVs
this one's a little heavier so it's worth it for me. Poor internal
storage places.
Barry Bean <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message news:<Xns94596F645FD5Beatmorecotton@207.14.113.17> ...
> tooplanecrazy7@aol.com (TooPlaneCrazy7) wrote in
> news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com:
>
> >
> > Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
> >
> > Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
> >
> > overkill?
>
>
> Do you ever get ice storms? Do you ever travel to places where they do?
> If so, that full time 4X4 could come in handy for roads with patchy ice.
> but if you're down in the valley where mud and sand are your only
> obstacles, then you probably don't.
>
> >
> > Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
> I absolutely love mine. I bought it to replace a Ford Explorer, and find
> that like the Explorer, its a great comfortable ride for someone who only
> occasionally needs 4x4 or high clearance. I think many of the negative
> comments you see here are from people who judge vehicles purely by their
> ability to navigate extreme off road terrain.
