Question on Jeep Liberty
12-20-2003, 01:11 PM
#11
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
first, realize that the liberty is not a Jeep. doesn't even come close.
never can, never will. the liberty is a "Something" that krysler stuck the
word "jeep" on this foreign car If you want a real jeep, you gotta get one
of the old amc designs. gettem while they[re stilll available.
<tooplanecrazy7@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com...
> Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
> the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
> "Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
> has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
> 4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
>
> In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
> feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
> use it on sand at the beach.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
> I've been reading some negative things about the
>
> LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
> Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
> for CASUAL off roading?
never can, never will. the liberty is a "Something" that krysler stuck the
word "jeep" on this foreign car If you want a real jeep, you gotta get one
of the old amc designs. gettem while they[re stilll available.
<tooplanecrazy7@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com...
> Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
> the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
> "Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
> has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
> 4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
>
> In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
> feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
> use it on sand at the beach.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
> I've been reading some negative things about the
>
> LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
> Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
> for CASUAL off roading?
12-20-2003, 01:11 PM
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
first, realize that the liberty is not a Jeep. doesn't even come close.
never can, never will. the liberty is a "Something" that krysler stuck the
word "jeep" on this foreign car If you want a real jeep, you gotta get one
of the old amc designs. gettem while they[re stilll available.
<tooplanecrazy7@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com...
> Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
> the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
> "Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
> has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
> 4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
>
> In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
> feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
> use it on sand at the beach.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
> I've been reading some negative things about the
>
> LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
> Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
> for CASUAL off roading?
never can, never will. the liberty is a "Something" that krysler stuck the
word "jeep" on this foreign car If you want a real jeep, you gotta get one
of the old amc designs. gettem while they[re stilll available.
<tooplanecrazy7@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com...
> Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
> the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
> "Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
> has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
> 4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
>
> In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
> feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
> use it on sand at the beach.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
> I've been reading some negative things about the
>
> LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
> Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
> for CASUAL off roading?
12-20-2003, 01:11 PM
#13
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Posts: n/a
Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
first, realize that the liberty is not a Jeep. doesn't even come close.
never can, never will. the liberty is a "Something" that krysler stuck the
word "jeep" on this foreign car If you want a real jeep, you gotta get one
of the old amc designs. gettem while they[re stilll available.
<tooplanecrazy7@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com...
> Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
> the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
> "Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
> has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
> 4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
>
> In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
> feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
> use it on sand at the beach.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
> I've been reading some negative things about the
>
> LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
> Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
> for CASUAL off roading?
never can, never will. the liberty is a "Something" that krysler stuck the
word "jeep" on this foreign car If you want a real jeep, you gotta get one
of the old amc designs. gettem while they[re stilll available.
<tooplanecrazy7@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com...
> Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
> the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
> "Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
> has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
> 4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
>
> In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
> feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
> use it on sand at the beach.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
> I've been reading some negative things about the
>
> LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
> Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
> for CASUAL off roading?
12-20-2003, 04:06 PM
#14
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Posts: n/a
Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
Personally, for the money that you have mentioned, I'd get (and I
have) a used late model Grand Cherokee, fully loaded from Carmax.
They offer very good warranty's (better than OEM in most cases).
I got my girlfriend a 2000 Grand Limited (28K miles, V8, all the toys)
with a 4 year warranty for $22K out the door.
Thats my $0.02
On 19 Dec 2003 23:13:27 GMT, tooplanecrazy7@aol.com (TooPlaneCrazy7)
wrote:
>Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
>the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
>"Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
>has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
>4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
>Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
>Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
>overkill?
>
>In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
>feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
>use it on sand at the beach.
>
>Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
>I've been reading some negative things about the
>
>LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
>Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
>for CASUAL off roading?
12-20-2003, 04:06 PM
#15
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
Personally, for the money that you have mentioned, I'd get (and I
have) a used late model Grand Cherokee, fully loaded from Carmax.
They offer very good warranty's (better than OEM in most cases).
I got my girlfriend a 2000 Grand Limited (28K miles, V8, all the toys)
with a 4 year warranty for $22K out the door.
Thats my $0.02
On 19 Dec 2003 23:13:27 GMT, tooplanecrazy7@aol.com (TooPlaneCrazy7)
wrote:
>Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
>the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
>"Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
>has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
>4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
>Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
>Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
>overkill?
>
>In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
>feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
>use it on sand at the beach.
>
>Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
>I've been reading some negative things about the
>
>LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
>Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
>for CASUAL off roading?
12-20-2003, 04:06 PM
#16
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Posts: n/a
Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
Personally, for the money that you have mentioned, I'd get (and I
have) a used late model Grand Cherokee, fully loaded from Carmax.
They offer very good warranty's (better than OEM in most cases).
I got my girlfriend a 2000 Grand Limited (28K miles, V8, all the toys)
with a 4 year warranty for $22K out the door.
Thats my $0.02
On 19 Dec 2003 23:13:27 GMT, tooplanecrazy7@aol.com (TooPlaneCrazy7)
wrote:
>Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
>the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
>"Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
>has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
>4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
>Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
>Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
>overkill?
>
>In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
>feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
>use it on sand at the beach.
>
>Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
>I've been reading some negative things about the
>
>LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
>Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
>for CASUAL off roading?
12-20-2003, 04:12 PM
#17
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
Ditto.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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attnews wrote:
>
> first, realize that the liberty is not a Jeep. doesn't even come close.
> never can, never will. the liberty is a "Something" that krysler stuck the
> word "jeep" on this foreign car If you want a real jeep, you gotta get one
> of the old amc designs. gettem while they[re stilll available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
attnews wrote:
>
> first, realize that the liberty is not a Jeep. doesn't even come close.
> never can, never will. the liberty is a "Something" that krysler stuck the
> word "jeep" on this foreign car If you want a real jeep, you gotta get one
> of the old amc designs. gettem while they[re stilll available.
12-20-2003, 04:12 PM
#18
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Posts: n/a
Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
Ditto.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
attnews wrote:
>
> first, realize that the liberty is not a Jeep. doesn't even come close.
> never can, never will. the liberty is a "Something" that krysler stuck the
> word "jeep" on this foreign car If you want a real jeep, you gotta get one
> of the old amc designs. gettem while they[re stilll available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
attnews wrote:
>
> first, realize that the liberty is not a Jeep. doesn't even come close.
> never can, never will. the liberty is a "Something" that krysler stuck the
> word "jeep" on this foreign car If you want a real jeep, you gotta get one
> of the old amc designs. gettem while they[re stilll available.
12-20-2003, 04:12 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
Ditto.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
attnews wrote:
>
> first, realize that the liberty is not a Jeep. doesn't even come close.
> never can, never will. the liberty is a "Something" that krysler stuck the
> word "jeep" on this foreign car If you want a real jeep, you gotta get one
> of the old amc designs. gettem while they[re stilll available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
attnews wrote:
>
> first, realize that the liberty is not a Jeep. doesn't even come close.
> never can, never will. the liberty is a "Something" that krysler stuck the
> word "jeep" on this foreign car If you want a real jeep, you gotta get one
> of the old amc designs. gettem while they[re stilll available.
12-21-2003, 08:53 AM
#20
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
You will hear a lot of whack out people who have had thier brains
turned to a loofa from sniffing too much unburnt exhause fumes
claiming that only 'real' jeeps were made during the 50's and have to
have chevy motors transplanted into them. I have to tell you the
*Really REAL* Jeeps were made during the '40s. That bunch of trolling
out of the way know this: In Texas you have 4 inch an hour frog
strangling tropical down pours.
How many times a year have you been driving down the road at 70 mph
and then boom, thirty seconds later you cannot see the end of the
hood. It happens to me at least twice a year. You get caught in
these several times each year too. This is why you want the Selectrac
*AND* the ABS. You will hear from some very vocal ethnocentric people
in this group that the only place anyone ever drives anything 4 wheel
is on dry rocks in the desert, which you and I (I am in Houston) never
get near. You will just be so much better served by a Liberty than a
CJ3B with a 6 inch lift, 38 super swampers and a small block chevy
transplant that it is not funny.
Do a google on my name in this news group and it should turn up a
bunch of my evangelical rantings about how good a Liberty is and what
it can and can't do.
My most recent adventure was the weekend before turky day. I was
given an old DEC pdp computer which was in a double wide relay rack,
6ft wide, 8ft tall, weight pushing a ton. I put this on Mom's low-boy
trailer, chinched a come-a-long across the top to keep it from falling
over and lit out across Houston for the house pulling it with the 99
TJ. The TJ has the nice 6 and is a little bit peppy. However it is
short wheel base, and the old computer is acting like a big sail and
the rig is squirreling all over the road. I dared not get on the
freeway with it, which meant driving down Washington and up Shephard
in the middle of the night (at least I was in good company with all
the other mentally deficients out in that part of the world that time
of a saturday night). The next day when Wife got back from girl scout
camp with the Liberty I used the Liberty to haul the trailor up to the
farm, about a hundred miles. No problems. Moral of story: you can
put a dead TJ on a trailer and haul it with a Liberty, you cannot haul
a Liberty with a TJ.
Crim <jeep@reactor.org> wrote in message news:<3ae9uvgibffbre1tq0gmr8tslffh7bm64n@4ax.com>. ..
> Personally, for the money that you have mentioned, I'd get (and I
> have) a used late model Grand Cherokee, fully loaded from Carmax.
This is a pretty good option to consider also, especially with regard
to being caught in a sudden storm.
turned to a loofa from sniffing too much unburnt exhause fumes
claiming that only 'real' jeeps were made during the 50's and have to
have chevy motors transplanted into them. I have to tell you the
*Really REAL* Jeeps were made during the '40s. That bunch of trolling
out of the way know this: In Texas you have 4 inch an hour frog
strangling tropical down pours.
How many times a year have you been driving down the road at 70 mph
and then boom, thirty seconds later you cannot see the end of the
hood. It happens to me at least twice a year. You get caught in
these several times each year too. This is why you want the Selectrac
*AND* the ABS. You will hear from some very vocal ethnocentric people
in this group that the only place anyone ever drives anything 4 wheel
is on dry rocks in the desert, which you and I (I am in Houston) never
get near. You will just be so much better served by a Liberty than a
CJ3B with a 6 inch lift, 38 super swampers and a small block chevy
transplant that it is not funny.
Do a google on my name in this news group and it should turn up a
bunch of my evangelical rantings about how good a Liberty is and what
it can and can't do.
My most recent adventure was the weekend before turky day. I was
given an old DEC pdp computer which was in a double wide relay rack,
6ft wide, 8ft tall, weight pushing a ton. I put this on Mom's low-boy
trailer, chinched a come-a-long across the top to keep it from falling
over and lit out across Houston for the house pulling it with the 99
TJ. The TJ has the nice 6 and is a little bit peppy. However it is
short wheel base, and the old computer is acting like a big sail and
the rig is squirreling all over the road. I dared not get on the
freeway with it, which meant driving down Washington and up Shephard
in the middle of the night (at least I was in good company with all
the other mentally deficients out in that part of the world that time
of a saturday night). The next day when Wife got back from girl scout
camp with the Liberty I used the Liberty to haul the trailor up to the
farm, about a hundred miles. No problems. Moral of story: you can
put a dead TJ on a trailer and haul it with a Liberty, you cannot haul
a Liberty with a TJ.
Crim <jeep@reactor.org> wrote in message news:<3ae9uvgibffbre1tq0gmr8tslffh7bm64n@4ax.com>. ..
> Personally, for the money that you have mentioned, I'd get (and I
> have) a used late model Grand Cherokee, fully loaded from Carmax.
This is a pretty good option to consider also, especially with regard
to being caught in a sudden storm.