Question on Jeep Liberty
 

Hi all,
I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have

the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or

"Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only

has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has

4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.

Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South

Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it

overkill?

In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary

feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly

use it on sand at the beach.

Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?

I've been reading some negative things about the

LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?

Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend

for CASUAL off roading?

Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
 

Selec-Trac also has a 2wd option..

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"TooPlaneCrazy7" <tooplanecrazy7@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com...
> Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
> the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
> "Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
> has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
> 4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
>
> In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
> feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
> use it on sand at the beach.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
> I've been reading some negative things about the
>
> LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
> Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
> for CASUAL off roading?

Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
 

Selec-Trac also has a 2wd option..

--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..

"TooPlaneCrazy7" <tooplanecrazy7@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com...
> Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
> the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
> "Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
> has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
> 4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
>
> In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
> feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
> use it on sand at the beach.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
> I've been reading some negative things about the
>
> LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
> Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
> for CASUAL off roading?

Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
 

Selec-Trac also has a 2wd option..

--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..

"TooPlaneCrazy7" <tooplanecrazy7@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031219181327.19282.00001113@mb-m13.aol.com...
> Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
> the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
> "Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
> has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
> 4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
> Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
> Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
> overkill?
>
> In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
> feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
> use it on sand at the beach.
>
> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
> I've been reading some negative things about the
>
> LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
> Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
> for CASUAL off roading?

Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
 

On 19 Dec 2003 02:13 PM, TooPlaneCrazy7 posted the following:

> In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
> feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
> use it on sand at the beach.

The selectrac mode is of little use off road. The only benefit of the
selectrac unit is the full time 4wd mode may be left engaged on the road
under all conditions without damaging the drivetrain (which might result
if part time mode were used in this manner) since it has a differential
coupling built in between the front and rear drive outputs. A google
search on command-trac vs. selec-trac should give you more information
on this topic that you will know what to do with.

> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?

I sat in one and found it to be more comfortable than the XJ Cherokees I
have been in, due to the increased headroom. Mechanically speaking I
would rather have the XJ due to the solid front axle and 4.0 motor.

> I've been reading some negative things about the
> LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?

Depends on what you want to do with it. For a grocery getter used on
nasty roads, it will probably do as well as any other CUV (cute utility
vehicle). If you try to use it off road much, you will most likely find
it lacking.

> Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
> for CASUAL off roading?

Depends on what the meaning of the word casual is (I did not have casual
relations with that Jeep!). If you want to go anywhere that clearance
is an issue, you will find lifting the IFS to install larger tires to be
expensive and a hassle. If suspension articulation is desired, look
elsewhere. ANY other Jeep currently available is better than the
liberty in these regards, at least until the '05 models come out....

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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
 

On 19 Dec 2003 02:13 PM, TooPlaneCrazy7 posted the following:

> In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
> feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
> use it on sand at the beach.

The selectrac mode is of little use off road. The only benefit of the
selectrac unit is the full time 4wd mode may be left engaged on the road
under all conditions without damaging the drivetrain (which might result
if part time mode were used in this manner) since it has a differential
coupling built in between the front and rear drive outputs. A google
search on command-trac vs. selec-trac should give you more information
on this topic that you will know what to do with.

> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?

I sat in one and found it to be more comfortable than the XJ Cherokees I
have been in, due to the increased headroom. Mechanically speaking I
would rather have the XJ due to the solid front axle and 4.0 motor.

> I've been reading some negative things about the
> LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?

Depends on what you want to do with it. For a grocery getter used on
nasty roads, it will probably do as well as any other CUV (cute utility
vehicle). If you try to use it off road much, you will most likely find
it lacking.

> Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
> for CASUAL off roading?

Depends on what the meaning of the word casual is (I did not have casual
relations with that Jeep!). If you want to go anywhere that clearance
is an issue, you will find lifting the IFS to install larger tires to be
expensive and a hassle. If suspension articulation is desired, look
elsewhere. ANY other Jeep currently available is better than the
liberty in these regards, at least until the '05 models come out....

----------------------------------------------------
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Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
 

On 19 Dec 2003 02:13 PM, TooPlaneCrazy7 posted the following:

> In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
> feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
> use it on sand at the beach.

The selectrac mode is of little use off road. The only benefit of the
selectrac unit is the full time 4wd mode may be left engaged on the road
under all conditions without damaging the drivetrain (which might result
if part time mode were used in this manner) since it has a differential
coupling built in between the front and rear drive outputs. A google
search on command-trac vs. selec-trac should give you more information
on this topic that you will know what to do with.

> Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?

I sat in one and found it to be more comfortable than the XJ Cherokees I
have been in, due to the increased headroom. Mechanically speaking I
would rather have the XJ due to the solid front axle and 4.0 motor.

> I've been reading some negative things about the
> LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?

Depends on what you want to do with it. For a grocery getter used on
nasty roads, it will probably do as well as any other CUV (cute utility
vehicle). If you try to use it off road much, you will most likely find
it lacking.

> Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
> for CASUAL off roading?

Depends on what the meaning of the word casual is (I did not have casual
relations with that Jeep!). If you want to go anywhere that clearance
is an issue, you will find lifting the IFS to install larger tires to be
expensive and a hassle. If suspension articulation is desired, look
elsewhere. ANY other Jeep currently available is better than the
liberty in these regards, at least until the '05 models come out....

----------------------------------------------------
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Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
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Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
 

Overkill IMO. What part of south Texas? I used to live in Corpus
Christi myself.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On 19 Dec 2003 23:13:27 GMT, tooplanecrazy7@aol.com (TooPlaneCrazy7)
wrote:

>Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
>the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
>"Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
>has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
>4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
>Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
>Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
>overkill?
>
>In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
>feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
>use it on sand at the beach.
>
>Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
>I've been reading some negative things about the
>
>LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
>Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
>for CASUAL off roading?

Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
 

Overkill IMO. What part of south Texas? I used to live in Corpus
Christi myself.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On 19 Dec 2003 23:13:27 GMT, tooplanecrazy7@aol.com (TooPlaneCrazy7)
wrote:

>Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
>the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
>"Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
>has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
>4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
>Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
>Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
>overkill?
>
>In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
>feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
>use it on sand at the beach.
>
>Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
>I've been reading some negative things about the
>
>LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
>Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
>for CASUAL off roading?

Re: Question on Jeep Liberty
 

Overkill IMO. What part of south Texas? I used to live in Corpus
Christi myself.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On 19 Dec 2003 23:13:27 GMT, tooplanecrazy7@aol.com (TooPlaneCrazy7)
wrote:

>Hi all,
> I'm in the market for a 4wd Jeep LIberty and have
>
>the decision to choose between a "Selec-Trac" or
>
>"Command-Trac" 4wd mode. The "Command-Trac" only
>
>has 4High and 4Low modes while the "Selec-Trac" has
>
>4Part-Time, Full Time, and 4 Lo.
>
>Since I live in an area without snow and ice (South
>
>Texas), do I still need the Full Time mode or is it
>
>overkill?
>
>In a nutshell, is "Selec-Trac" really a necessary
>
>feature for the CASUAL off roader? I plan to mainly
>
>use it on sand at the beach.
>
>Any final thoughts on the JEEP LIBERTY?
>
>I've been reading some negative things about the
>
>LIBERTY in this newsgroup, is it really that bad?
>
>Why is it bad? What other JEEP would you recommend
>
>for CASUAL off roading?