L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

I don't believe we may kill an established breed into extinction
without putting a bounty on their head and using poison. It takes
natural event like a drought that starves the rodents, rabbets, varmints
and so on up the chain.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> you dont even get the mindset of gun owners, so this doesnt surprise me.
>
> the yellowstone elk herd is down by over 50% since the wolf was
> reintroduced.
>
> yeah mike, go to http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3232 pan
> down just over half way and look at what your wonderful wolves do.
>
> why is it that the folks who defend the wolf are the folks who dont have to
> live with them?
>
> wolves and cougars shot on sight, hopefully to total extinction.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

I don't believe we may kill an established breed into extinction
without putting a bounty on their head and using poison. It takes
natural event like a drought that starves the rodents, rabbets, varmints
and so on up the chain.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> you dont even get the mindset of gun owners, so this doesnt surprise me.
>
> the yellowstone elk herd is down by over 50% since the wolf was
> reintroduced.
>
> yeah mike, go to http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3232 pan
> down just over half way and look at what your wonderful wolves do.
>
> why is it that the folks who defend the wolf are the folks who dont have to
> live with them?
>
> wolves and cougars shot on sight, hopefully to total extinction.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Nathan W. Collier

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4448720A.40551E0@***.net...
> I don't believe we may kill an established breed into extinction
> without putting a bounty on their head and using poison.

sure is fun to try. i have no desire to shoot deer or elk, but the only
thing more appealing to me than shooting a wolf is shooting a cougar.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Nathan W. Collier

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4448720A.40551E0@***.net...
> I don't believe we may kill an established breed into extinction
> without putting a bounty on their head and using poison.

sure is fun to try. i have no desire to shoot deer or elk, but the only
thing more appealing to me than shooting a wolf is shooting a cougar.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Nathan W. Collier

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4448720A.40551E0@***.net...
> I don't believe we may kill an established breed into extinction
> without putting a bounty on their head and using poison.

sure is fun to try. i have no desire to shoot deer or elk, but the only
thing more appealing to me than shooting a wolf is shooting a cougar.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Nathan W. Collier

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44486DA2.46CEEA4@***.net...
> The Wolf is a pack animal, and just like our family dog, if it's
> allow to run free will find a pack and kill for fun

ironic isnt it? ;-)

(......that the wolf kills for fun, and i find fun in killing wolves)

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Nathan W. Collier

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44486DA2.46CEEA4@***.net...
> The Wolf is a pack animal, and just like our family dog, if it's
> allow to run free will find a pack and kill for fun

ironic isnt it? ;-)

(......that the wolf kills for fun, and i find fun in killing wolves)

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Nathan W. Collier

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44486DA2.46CEEA4@***.net...
> The Wolf is a pack animal, and just like our family dog, if it's
> allow to run free will find a pack and kill for fun

ironic isnt it? ;-)

(......that the wolf kills for fun, and i find fun in killing wolves)

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Jeepers

In article <qPZ1g.67$Wx4.17490@news.uswest.net>,
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote:

> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
> news:moomesa-77870E.21315520042006@cnews.newsguy.com...
> > I caught a ration of crap today from a friend whom I had just told I had
> > caught a rattlesnake from under our front deck and hauled it off and let
> > it go a couple of miles from my house. "You didn't KILL it!?!" Why
> > should I? It has it's place in the world.
>
> gee, i hope he doesnt bite your child playing innocently in your yard.

Me too. But I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.
My yard is 700+ acres. Dangers are numerous.

My son is the one who told me it was there, he is 13. The cat was
investigating the snake and so it was warning the cat away. Hell, if my
wife hadn't demanded it's removal, I'd have preferred to watch it hunt.
Our Indigo snakes often catch the leopard frogs at our water trough by
the deck, very cool to witness. Rattlesnakes are a reality here, as are
bad bulls, rabid skunks, black widows, brown recluses and barb wire,
dangers lurk everywhere (like crappy shackles on early CJs). One learns
about their surroundings in the country, much the same way a city feller
pays attention to who is watching him withdraw cash at the ATM.

Besides, rattlesnake bites are rarely fatal. My mom was bitten on the
forearm, and my last dog - twice - once on the paw and once on the
throat. Both my grandfather and my Bro-in-law have been bitten by black
widows, and they suffered FAR longer and worse effects than my mother or
dog. My best friend has been bitten by a brown recluse, and I have been
bitten by several spiders, thousands of fire ants, numerous wasps, bees
and even a scorpion. No Bot flies yet, but I keep trying! I fear the
shredder on my tractor, more than rattlesnakes (the equipment tends to
**** off africanized bees). As I said, If I can't remove it from the
area, THEN I'll destroy it.

Many years ago, we came home late one evening with groceries from town,
several trips back and forth thru the screen and front door to the truck
and kitchen. Next morning I found a rattler, BETWEEN, the front screen
door and front door, a space of 2-3". He was alive, uninjured, and one
of us stepped right over it as it tried to get in the house as we closed
the doors.

And I won't even mention the dangers my son and I face while caving, but
thats the fun, risk. Sure beats the mall! Later this year I'm rappeling
into Sotano del Golandrias in Mexico, some thousand feet. Perhaps we
should fill in the big hole, instead, because it's dangerous?

It's not that I oppose killing them, I killed two last year upon
arriving at our family reunion pik-nik. They were trying to get into the
woodpile and little kids were coming. Had to dismantle the woodpile
afterwards to make sure there were no more.

No, these animals have their place in the world, killing it would serve
no purpose. I'm not afraid of the snake, neither is my son, we prefer to
RESPECT it.

--
Member AAAAAAAA
American Association Against Acronym Abuse And Also Ambiguity.

Jeepers

In article <qPZ1g.67$Wx4.17490@news.uswest.net>,
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote:

> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
> news:moomesa-77870E.21315520042006@cnews.newsguy.com...
> > I caught a ration of crap today from a friend whom I had just told I had
> > caught a rattlesnake from under our front deck and hauled it off and let
> > it go a couple of miles from my house. "You didn't KILL it!?!" Why
> > should I? It has it's place in the world.
>
> gee, i hope he doesnt bite your child playing innocently in your yard.

Me too. But I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.
My yard is 700+ acres. Dangers are numerous.

My son is the one who told me it was there, he is 13. The cat was
investigating the snake and so it was warning the cat away. Hell, if my
wife hadn't demanded it's removal, I'd have preferred to watch it hunt.
Our Indigo snakes often catch the leopard frogs at our water trough by
the deck, very cool to witness. Rattlesnakes are a reality here, as are
bad bulls, rabid skunks, black widows, brown recluses and barb wire,
dangers lurk everywhere (like crappy shackles on early CJs). One learns
about their surroundings in the country, much the same way a city feller
pays attention to who is watching him withdraw cash at the ATM.

Besides, rattlesnake bites are rarely fatal. My mom was bitten on the
forearm, and my last dog - twice - once on the paw and once on the
throat. Both my grandfather and my Bro-in-law have been bitten by black
widows, and they suffered FAR longer and worse effects than my mother or
dog. My best friend has been bitten by a brown recluse, and I have been
bitten by several spiders, thousands of fire ants, numerous wasps, bees
and even a scorpion. No Bot flies yet, but I keep trying! I fear the
shredder on my tractor, more than rattlesnakes (the equipment tends to
**** off africanized bees). As I said, If I can't remove it from the
area, THEN I'll destroy it.

Many years ago, we came home late one evening with groceries from town,
several trips back and forth thru the screen and front door to the truck
and kitchen. Next morning I found a rattler, BETWEEN, the front screen
door and front door, a space of 2-3". He was alive, uninjured, and one
of us stepped right over it as it tried to get in the house as we closed
the doors.

And I won't even mention the dangers my son and I face while caving, but
thats the fun, risk. Sure beats the mall! Later this year I'm rappeling
into Sotano del Golandrias in Mexico, some thousand feet. Perhaps we
should fill in the big hole, instead, because it's dangerous?

It's not that I oppose killing them, I killed two last year upon
arriving at our family reunion pik-nik. They were trying to get into the
woodpile and little kids were coming. Had to dismantle the woodpile
afterwards to make sure there were no more.

No, these animals have their place in the world, killing it would serve
no purpose. I'm not afraid of the snake, neither is my son, we prefer to
RESPECT it.

--
Member AAAAAAAA
American Association Against Acronym Abuse And Also Ambiguity.