> Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44483845.F2EE4E40@sympatico.ca...
> > You know, I really don't get the mind set of some 'hunters'.
>
> you dont even get the mindset of gun owners, so this doesnt surprise me.

You snipped the part where I described my gun. Single shot 20 ga. break
action shotgun with a 3" chamber.

>
> > Wolves and bears are a major part of the ecosystem, wolves especially.
> >
> > Since the US 'hunters' have killed off all it's wolves, the deer
> > population has gone mad so mother nature is putting a plague through
> > them so they can't be eaten and they are dying of starvation because of
> > overpopulation and on and on.
>
> the yellowstone elk herd is down by over 50% since the wolf was
> reintroduced.

Obviously the wolves are doing 'exactly' what they were put there to do,
first by Mother Nature, now by man.

>
> > Wolves have been 're-introduced' to the US to try to help with that.
> > The deer populations need a natural predator and clean up crew to keep
> > the herds healthy.
>
> yeah mike, go to http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3232 pan
> down just over half way and look at what your wonderful wolves do.

Dog kill more likely. Dog packs are a much worse threat to wildlife.

>
> why is it that the folks who defend the wolf are the folks who dont have to
> live with them?

Bull, did you not read my other post in this thread about some of my
first hand bear stories? I have a bunch more....

Steve Seppala from this group got a photo of the wolf that walked up to
our RAMJ+W campsite last summer.

>
> > But I sure as 'Hell' won't 'shoot on sight' any critter just for the
> > ***** and giggles of killing something 'I' think is a varmint
>
> wolves and cougars shot on sight, hopefully to total extinction.
>

As mentioned, I don't get the mind set of some 'hunters'.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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In article <44487CEB.66ACC134@***.net>,
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote:

> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> Jeepers wrote:
> >
> > Why? You gonna eat it?
> >
> http://cougarinfo.com/attacks3.htm


Drunk drivers are far worse, nobody is out shooting them.

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In article <44487CEB.66ACC134@***.net>,
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote:

> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> Jeepers wrote:
> >
> > Why? You gonna eat it?
> >
> http://cougarinfo.com/attacks3.htm


Drunk drivers are far worse, nobody is out shooting them.

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In article <44487CEB.66ACC134@***.net>,
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote:

> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> Jeepers wrote:
> >
> > Why? You gonna eat it?
> >
> http://cougarinfo.com/attacks3.htm


Drunk drivers are far worse, nobody is out shooting them.

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"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote
: > Why would you put up with such a thing?
: >
: Cabin fever. They make such good company, it breaks my heart to put them
on
: the floor. Hope the snow melts soon...
:
: Earle
:

Hey Earle, your house, your rules, your cats.
Whatever makes you happy. :¬)

 

"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote
: > Why would you put up with such a thing?
: >
: Cabin fever. They make such good company, it breaks my heart to put them
on
: the floor. Hope the snow melts soon...
:
: Earle
:

Hey Earle, your house, your rules, your cats.
Whatever makes you happy. :¬)

 

"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote
: > Why would you put up with such a thing?
: >
: Cabin fever. They make such good company, it breaks my heart to put them
on
: the floor. Hope the snow melts soon...
:
: Earle
:

Hey Earle, your house, your rules, your cats.
Whatever makes you happy. :¬)

 

In article <yp02g.75$Wx4.21067@news.uswest.net>,
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote:

> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
> news:moomesa-D99FE6.01000421042006@news.fnbnet.net...
> > Me too. But I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.
> > My yard is 700+ acres. Dangers are numerous.
>
> same could be said of your house.......bathtubs kill more people per year than rattlesnakes so why not let rattlesnakes in your house? thats using the same logic i quoted from you.

Whatever, I'm not gonna debate you about my lifestyle. Besides, we found
a big snakeskin in our laundryroom last summer, who knows?

> > Rattlesnakes are a reality here, as are bad bulls, rabid skunks, black widows, brown recluses and barb wire
>
> sounds like a nice place! ;-)

It's Texas. And it's my piece of Texas.

> > Besides, rattlesnake bites are rarely fatal.
>
> they are when it involves small children. i nearly stepped on one in '04 http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1599 to his credit he didnt want to bite me.

Small children need close supervision, I don't have small children. And
anyway, buckets and stairs are bad new to small children, too. We live
in the country, I raised two w/o snakebite so far. You learn to watch
the ground when you walk around, I find more things from this habit.

A caving buddy was bitten many years ago by a big rattler. He wasn't
envenomated. Good scare tho. I have crawled past dozens of rattlers in
cave entrances over the years. I have eaten them. I have sewn their
moths shut and trained my (new) dogs with them. I have caught and
removed at least six from my house over the past 15 years (I killed
three, they were trying to get into or under my house). One was in my
engine bay of my truck.

> > Both my grandfather and my Bro-in-law have been bitten by black
> > widows, and they suffered FAR longer and worse effects than my mother or
> > dog. My best friend has been bitten by a brown recluse
>
> i kill those too. :-)
>
> > Perhaps we
> > should fill in the big hole, instead, because it's dangerous?
>
> not a realistic comparison.

Sure it is. It's dangerous, let's do away with it instead of being
careful.
Killing every predator on my place would be a bad move too.

> > No, these animals have their place in the world, killing it would serve
> > no purpose. I'm not afraid of the snake, neither is my son, we prefer to
> > RESPECT it.
>
> please tell me we arent talking tim treadwell type "respect" here. :-)

I have no idea.

I did see a cougar last month cross the road a couple miles down the
road a while back.

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In article <yp02g.75$Wx4.21067@news.uswest.net>,
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote:

> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
> news:moomesa-D99FE6.01000421042006@news.fnbnet.net...
> > Me too. But I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.
> > My yard is 700+ acres. Dangers are numerous.
>
> same could be said of your house.......bathtubs kill more people per year than rattlesnakes so why not let rattlesnakes in your house? thats using the same logic i quoted from you.

Whatever, I'm not gonna debate you about my lifestyle. Besides, we found
a big snakeskin in our laundryroom last summer, who knows?

> > Rattlesnakes are a reality here, as are bad bulls, rabid skunks, black widows, brown recluses and barb wire
>
> sounds like a nice place! ;-)

It's Texas. And it's my piece of Texas.

> > Besides, rattlesnake bites are rarely fatal.
>
> they are when it involves small children. i nearly stepped on one in '04 http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1599 to his credit he didnt want to bite me.

Small children need close supervision, I don't have small children. And
anyway, buckets and stairs are bad new to small children, too. We live
in the country, I raised two w/o snakebite so far. You learn to watch
the ground when you walk around, I find more things from this habit.

A caving buddy was bitten many years ago by a big rattler. He wasn't
envenomated. Good scare tho. I have crawled past dozens of rattlers in
cave entrances over the years. I have eaten them. I have sewn their
moths shut and trained my (new) dogs with them. I have caught and
removed at least six from my house over the past 15 years (I killed
three, they were trying to get into or under my house). One was in my
engine bay of my truck.

> > Both my grandfather and my Bro-in-law have been bitten by black
> > widows, and they suffered FAR longer and worse effects than my mother or
> > dog. My best friend has been bitten by a brown recluse
>
> i kill those too. :-)
>
> > Perhaps we
> > should fill in the big hole, instead, because it's dangerous?
>
> not a realistic comparison.

Sure it is. It's dangerous, let's do away with it instead of being
careful.
Killing every predator on my place would be a bad move too.

> > No, these animals have their place in the world, killing it would serve
> > no purpose. I'm not afraid of the snake, neither is my son, we prefer to
> > RESPECT it.
>
> please tell me we arent talking tim treadwell type "respect" here. :-)

I have no idea.

I did see a cougar last month cross the road a couple miles down the
road a while back.

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In article <yp02g.75$Wx4.21067@news.uswest.net>,
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote:

> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
> news:moomesa-D99FE6.01000421042006@news.fnbnet.net...
> > Me too. But I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.
> > My yard is 700+ acres. Dangers are numerous.
>
> same could be said of your house.......bathtubs kill more people per year than rattlesnakes so why not let rattlesnakes in your house? thats using the same logic i quoted from you.

Whatever, I'm not gonna debate you about my lifestyle. Besides, we found
a big snakeskin in our laundryroom last summer, who knows?

> > Rattlesnakes are a reality here, as are bad bulls, rabid skunks, black widows, brown recluses and barb wire
>
> sounds like a nice place! ;-)

It's Texas. And it's my piece of Texas.

> > Besides, rattlesnake bites are rarely fatal.
>
> they are when it involves small children. i nearly stepped on one in '04 http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1599 to his credit he didnt want to bite me.

Small children need close supervision, I don't have small children. And
anyway, buckets and stairs are bad new to small children, too. We live
in the country, I raised two w/o snakebite so far. You learn to watch
the ground when you walk around, I find more things from this habit.

A caving buddy was bitten many years ago by a big rattler. He wasn't
envenomated. Good scare tho. I have crawled past dozens of rattlers in
cave entrances over the years. I have eaten them. I have sewn their
moths shut and trained my (new) dogs with them. I have caught and
removed at least six from my house over the past 15 years (I killed
three, they were trying to get into or under my house). One was in my
engine bay of my truck.

> > Both my grandfather and my Bro-in-law have been bitten by black
> > widows, and they suffered FAR longer and worse effects than my mother or
> > dog. My best friend has been bitten by a brown recluse
>
> i kill those too. :-)
>
> > Perhaps we
> > should fill in the big hole, instead, because it's dangerous?
>
> not a realistic comparison.

Sure it is. It's dangerous, let's do away with it instead of being
careful.
Killing every predator on my place would be a bad move too.

> > No, these animals have their place in the world, killing it would serve
> > no purpose. I'm not afraid of the snake, neither is my son, we prefer to
> > RESPECT it.
>
> please tell me we arent talking tim treadwell type "respect" here. :-)

I have no idea.

I did see a cougar last month cross the road a couple miles down the
road a while back.

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American Association Against Acronym Abuse And Also Ambiguity.