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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:38:09 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>It can float pretty good It's rated for two people in water but
>I did have three LARGE people in it with no worries.
>True it wouldn't handle rough choppy water too well.
>But it is rated for a 9.9 outboard
I suppose the outboard would be a big help on large ponds but where
would you stow it afterwards? a 9.9 HP is not all that small and would
require a 5 gallon gas tank as well.
Probably if you were riding solo or got the 4 seater 8 wheel model you
could toss it in the back.
>> Well what I really meant was it does not look like it has a lot of
>> articulation in the wheels to go up and over some of the rougher
>> stuff.
>
>Look closely it's got a extra wheel "in the middle" :-)
>unlike a Quad or Jeep
I meant the kind of Rocks that Nathan regulary rides which he has some
pics of where he takes his Quad. I don't think I could handle terrain
that's that severe but his Quad will do it.
>> To me it basically looks like a variant of the M29 weasel which was
>> also amphibious but the Weasel had a problem in that while it could
>> chew through stuff that would kill a jeep it has metal tracks and was
>> a pain to drive with a 3 spd manual studebaker tranny.
>> I'd love to seea video of you putting it through it's paces. I won't
>> ever be able to ride a Quad agaid so the Rhino is looking mighty good
>> and I'll be interested to see what Nathan says about it's
>> capabilities.
>> The Argo's can only go 24 mph or so. I guess there is another company
>> out there that makes a similar ATV to the Argo but it has up to 8
>> driving wheels and is amphibious.
>
>Argos also make an 8 wheeler. There is another company that makes
>a machine similar "Max" I believe is the name of it.
I've seen the pics of the 8x8's and the T-Max or whatever it's called.
They look kinda fun to play with but I would want more speed.
The M29 would cost you about $10K for a decent one and it's not in the
same league as anything else. You'd need a decent Full sized pickup to
tow it. unlike the Argo or any Quad. The M29 weighs like 3,000 lbs.!!
Still I'd like like to bomb around in an argo for a day.
>Tracks are only needed for floatation on the snow. The 6x6 drive
>has a LOT of traction.
Have you see what the Rhino can climb tho? I guess when it comes time
for me to buy one I'll try them all out and see which one I like the
best. I'd just grab an M29 if I had a local mechanic who could work on
Studebaker engines.
>> Quads are fast and it would be nice if they could double the speed on
>
>I wouldn't recommend making it faster. I think it's too fast in the bush
>already
Why is it unstable at higher speeds?
>> Is teh only reason the Quad can't make it up to you camp is because of
>> deep standing water?
>
>No No cars can make it to the camp. But getting to the field were the
>deer dropped That's where it truly shines. My hunting buddy's love
>the machine as they never have to drag deer out of the bush again.
Well you said Quads couldn't make it to the camp. The only reason
would be if you needed to float over small ponds to get there.
I've seen Quads around here dragging out deer. They seed teh area with
apples from the orchard then when hunting season comes they get into a
good position and wait with the Quad waiting nearby.
>Understood, this machine is unique and a lot of people can't visualize
>what this machine can actually do (with the right operator of coarse)
Well it has 6 wheels but it's Tub design also has some drawbacks.
No ATV is perfect tho. The Argo looks like it would be tough to roll
but I don't know how steep a hill it can tackle.
>Truthfully the argo (to me anyways) is a piece of hunting equipment
>not a toy It sits in storage most of the year to be pulled out
>at the start of small game season. Then after deer back in storage.
>My Nephew use to bug me all the time to rip around in it (which I
>kinda disliked) Whew thankfully his fricken Dad bought him a dirt bike.
>Took a lot off pressure off the Argo.
The Argo is quite expensive but I would want to use it more than a
couple of months out of the year.
I guess i prefer Toys. :)
>My Ski Doo is my real toy
I still don't know if I can handle the seating position for hours upon
hours of riding. No way would I get an Elite even if I could afford
it.
I'll have to rent later on in the year. I've only seen Artic Cats for
rent tho.
>It can float pretty good It's rated for two people in water but
>I did have three LARGE people in it with no worries.
>True it wouldn't handle rough choppy water too well.
>But it is rated for a 9.9 outboard
I suppose the outboard would be a big help on large ponds but where
would you stow it afterwards? a 9.9 HP is not all that small and would
require a 5 gallon gas tank as well.
Probably if you were riding solo or got the 4 seater 8 wheel model you
could toss it in the back.
>> Well what I really meant was it does not look like it has a lot of
>> articulation in the wheels to go up and over some of the rougher
>> stuff.
>
>Look closely it's got a extra wheel "in the middle" :-)
>unlike a Quad or Jeep
I meant the kind of Rocks that Nathan regulary rides which he has some
pics of where he takes his Quad. I don't think I could handle terrain
that's that severe but his Quad will do it.
>> To me it basically looks like a variant of the M29 weasel which was
>> also amphibious but the Weasel had a problem in that while it could
>> chew through stuff that would kill a jeep it has metal tracks and was
>> a pain to drive with a 3 spd manual studebaker tranny.
>> I'd love to seea video of you putting it through it's paces. I won't
>> ever be able to ride a Quad agaid so the Rhino is looking mighty good
>> and I'll be interested to see what Nathan says about it's
>> capabilities.
>> The Argo's can only go 24 mph or so. I guess there is another company
>> out there that makes a similar ATV to the Argo but it has up to 8
>> driving wheels and is amphibious.
>
>Argos also make an 8 wheeler. There is another company that makes
>a machine similar "Max" I believe is the name of it.
I've seen the pics of the 8x8's and the T-Max or whatever it's called.
They look kinda fun to play with but I would want more speed.
The M29 would cost you about $10K for a decent one and it's not in the
same league as anything else. You'd need a decent Full sized pickup to
tow it. unlike the Argo or any Quad. The M29 weighs like 3,000 lbs.!!
Still I'd like like to bomb around in an argo for a day.
>Tracks are only needed for floatation on the snow. The 6x6 drive
>has a LOT of traction.
Have you see what the Rhino can climb tho? I guess when it comes time
for me to buy one I'll try them all out and see which one I like the
best. I'd just grab an M29 if I had a local mechanic who could work on
Studebaker engines.
>> Quads are fast and it would be nice if they could double the speed on
>
>I wouldn't recommend making it faster. I think it's too fast in the bush
>already
Why is it unstable at higher speeds?
>> Is teh only reason the Quad can't make it up to you camp is because of
>> deep standing water?
>
>No No cars can make it to the camp. But getting to the field were the
>deer dropped That's where it truly shines. My hunting buddy's love
>the machine as they never have to drag deer out of the bush again.
Well you said Quads couldn't make it to the camp. The only reason
would be if you needed to float over small ponds to get there.
I've seen Quads around here dragging out deer. They seed teh area with
apples from the orchard then when hunting season comes they get into a
good position and wait with the Quad waiting nearby.
>Understood, this machine is unique and a lot of people can't visualize
>what this machine can actually do (with the right operator of coarse)
Well it has 6 wheels but it's Tub design also has some drawbacks.
No ATV is perfect tho. The Argo looks like it would be tough to roll
but I don't know how steep a hill it can tackle.
>Truthfully the argo (to me anyways) is a piece of hunting equipment
>not a toy It sits in storage most of the year to be pulled out
>at the start of small game season. Then after deer back in storage.
>My Nephew use to bug me all the time to rip around in it (which I
>kinda disliked) Whew thankfully his fricken Dad bought him a dirt bike.
>Took a lot off pressure off the Argo.
The Argo is quite expensive but I would want to use it more than a
couple of months out of the year.
I guess i prefer Toys. :)
>My Ski Doo is my real toy
I still don't know if I can handle the seating position for hours upon
hours of riding. No way would I get an Elite even if I could afford
it.
I'll have to rent later on in the year. I've only seen Artic Cats for
rent tho.
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:14:48 GMT, "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:3n7fpvgocumuasg53qg7tb5ltug8emub1g@4ax.com.. .
>> My car is rated to tow 1,000 pounds according
>> to the dealer.
>
>the ratings are typically conservative ratings with the idiot factor being
>factored in. with a little sense, you can safely tow a good bit above the
>rating. i think the 6x6 comes in around 1500 pounds and that plus the
>trailer weight would probably be pushing it. a 1049lb machine being towed
>on a 200lb trailer (mine is grossly over-built which you can see in the
>pictures) should be no problem.
The cops heer just love to stop people with trailers. Even more if
it's a car pulling it. Thewy have these inflatable pillows they have
you drive on and it weighs the trailer. The fines are very high for
being overweight. I don't know how high but enough that I don't want
to deal with it. I think a Jeep is rated to pull 1500 lbs.
My car is rated to pull 1000 lbs. 500 over even at $10 per pound over
and you are broke fast.
I'll have to verify everything with the dealer once I make up my mind.
I might even check out the 6x6 Rangers if they handle mud so well.
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:3n7fpvgocumuasg53qg7tb5ltug8emub1g@4ax.com.. .
>> My car is rated to tow 1,000 pounds according
>> to the dealer.
>
>the ratings are typically conservative ratings with the idiot factor being
>factored in. with a little sense, you can safely tow a good bit above the
>rating. i think the 6x6 comes in around 1500 pounds and that plus the
>trailer weight would probably be pushing it. a 1049lb machine being towed
>on a 200lb trailer (mine is grossly over-built which you can see in the
>pictures) should be no problem.
The cops heer just love to stop people with trailers. Even more if
it's a car pulling it. Thewy have these inflatable pillows they have
you drive on and it weighs the trailer. The fines are very high for
being overweight. I don't know how high but enough that I don't want
to deal with it. I think a Jeep is rated to pull 1500 lbs.
My car is rated to pull 1000 lbs. 500 over even at $10 per pound over
and you are broke fast.
I'll have to verify everything with the dealer once I make up my mind.
I might even check out the 6x6 Rangers if they handle mud so well.
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:14:48 GMT, "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:3n7fpvgocumuasg53qg7tb5ltug8emub1g@4ax.com.. .
>> My car is rated to tow 1,000 pounds according
>> to the dealer.
>
>the ratings are typically conservative ratings with the idiot factor being
>factored in. with a little sense, you can safely tow a good bit above the
>rating. i think the 6x6 comes in around 1500 pounds and that plus the
>trailer weight would probably be pushing it. a 1049lb machine being towed
>on a 200lb trailer (mine is grossly over-built which you can see in the
>pictures) should be no problem.
The cops heer just love to stop people with trailers. Even more if
it's a car pulling it. Thewy have these inflatable pillows they have
you drive on and it weighs the trailer. The fines are very high for
being overweight. I don't know how high but enough that I don't want
to deal with it. I think a Jeep is rated to pull 1500 lbs.
My car is rated to pull 1000 lbs. 500 over even at $10 per pound over
and you are broke fast.
I'll have to verify everything with the dealer once I make up my mind.
I might even check out the 6x6 Rangers if they handle mud so well.
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:3n7fpvgocumuasg53qg7tb5ltug8emub1g@4ax.com.. .
>> My car is rated to tow 1,000 pounds according
>> to the dealer.
>
>the ratings are typically conservative ratings with the idiot factor being
>factored in. with a little sense, you can safely tow a good bit above the
>rating. i think the 6x6 comes in around 1500 pounds and that plus the
>trailer weight would probably be pushing it. a 1049lb machine being towed
>on a 200lb trailer (mine is grossly over-built which you can see in the
>pictures) should be no problem.
The cops heer just love to stop people with trailers. Even more if
it's a car pulling it. Thewy have these inflatable pillows they have
you drive on and it weighs the trailer. The fines are very high for
being overweight. I don't know how high but enough that I don't want
to deal with it. I think a Jeep is rated to pull 1500 lbs.
My car is rated to pull 1000 lbs. 500 over even at $10 per pound over
and you are broke fast.
I'll have to verify everything with the dealer once I make up my mind.
I might even check out the 6x6 Rangers if they handle mud so well.
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:14:48 GMT, "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:3n7fpvgocumuasg53qg7tb5ltug8emub1g@4ax.com.. .
>> My car is rated to tow 1,000 pounds according
>> to the dealer.
>
>the ratings are typically conservative ratings with the idiot factor being
>factored in. with a little sense, you can safely tow a good bit above the
>rating. i think the 6x6 comes in around 1500 pounds and that plus the
>trailer weight would probably be pushing it. a 1049lb machine being towed
>on a 200lb trailer (mine is grossly over-built which you can see in the
>pictures) should be no problem.
The cops heer just love to stop people with trailers. Even more if
it's a car pulling it. Thewy have these inflatable pillows they have
you drive on and it weighs the trailer. The fines are very high for
being overweight. I don't know how high but enough that I don't want
to deal with it. I think a Jeep is rated to pull 1500 lbs.
My car is rated to pull 1000 lbs. 500 over even at $10 per pound over
and you are broke fast.
I'll have to verify everything with the dealer once I make up my mind.
I might even check out the 6x6 Rangers if they handle mud so well.
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:3n7fpvgocumuasg53qg7tb5ltug8emub1g@4ax.com.. .
>> My car is rated to tow 1,000 pounds according
>> to the dealer.
>
>the ratings are typically conservative ratings with the idiot factor being
>factored in. with a little sense, you can safely tow a good bit above the
>rating. i think the 6x6 comes in around 1500 pounds and that plus the
>trailer weight would probably be pushing it. a 1049lb machine being towed
>on a 200lb trailer (mine is grossly over-built which you can see in the
>pictures) should be no problem.
The cops heer just love to stop people with trailers. Even more if
it's a car pulling it. Thewy have these inflatable pillows they have
you drive on and it weighs the trailer. The fines are very high for
being overweight. I don't know how high but enough that I don't want
to deal with it. I think a Jeep is rated to pull 1500 lbs.
My car is rated to pull 1000 lbs. 500 over even at $10 per pound over
and you are broke fast.
I'll have to verify everything with the dealer once I make up my mind.
I might even check out the 6x6 Rangers if they handle mud so well.
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:51:20 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>> No that's what they make Ski Doo's for. :)
>> Still same position pretty much as a Quad even with the REV-1 design
>> and now way can I afford an Elite. But 150HP for a side by side sled.
>> That has got to have some serious speed on the straights!
>
>Yea those Ski Doo Revs I've heard they revolutionized snowmobiling
>Hence the Rev...get it...:-) Got.... to .....have .....one!!!!!!
>The new rider position eliminates the bumps inherent with the older design.
>I think the Elites are rated for "almost" 100mph but
>alas it's only good for trail riding, I would guess.
>I'd hate to get stuck in deep snow with one of them monsters.
Yeah it sucks when you total your back and all the stuff you used to
do is now Verbotten.
I'm probably going to rent a sled for a couple of days this winter and
see how well I do on it.
Heck it was snowing a little bit here all day but mixed with rain.
It's going to be a snowmobile winter!
>> No that's what they make Ski Doo's for. :)
>> Still same position pretty much as a Quad even with the REV-1 design
>> and now way can I afford an Elite. But 150HP for a side by side sled.
>> That has got to have some serious speed on the straights!
>
>Yea those Ski Doo Revs I've heard they revolutionized snowmobiling
>Hence the Rev...get it...:-) Got.... to .....have .....one!!!!!!
>The new rider position eliminates the bumps inherent with the older design.
>I think the Elites are rated for "almost" 100mph but
>alas it's only good for trail riding, I would guess.
>I'd hate to get stuck in deep snow with one of them monsters.
Yeah it sucks when you total your back and all the stuff you used to
do is now Verbotten.
I'm probably going to rent a sled for a couple of days this winter and
see how well I do on it.
Heck it was snowing a little bit here all day but mixed with rain.
It's going to be a snowmobile winter!
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:51:20 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>> No that's what they make Ski Doo's for. :)
>> Still same position pretty much as a Quad even with the REV-1 design
>> and now way can I afford an Elite. But 150HP for a side by side sled.
>> That has got to have some serious speed on the straights!
>
>Yea those Ski Doo Revs I've heard they revolutionized snowmobiling
>Hence the Rev...get it...:-) Got.... to .....have .....one!!!!!!
>The new rider position eliminates the bumps inherent with the older design.
>I think the Elites are rated for "almost" 100mph but
>alas it's only good for trail riding, I would guess.
>I'd hate to get stuck in deep snow with one of them monsters.
Yeah it sucks when you total your back and all the stuff you used to
do is now Verbotten.
I'm probably going to rent a sled for a couple of days this winter and
see how well I do on it.
Heck it was snowing a little bit here all day but mixed with rain.
It's going to be a snowmobile winter!
>> No that's what they make Ski Doo's for. :)
>> Still same position pretty much as a Quad even with the REV-1 design
>> and now way can I afford an Elite. But 150HP for a side by side sled.
>> That has got to have some serious speed on the straights!
>
>Yea those Ski Doo Revs I've heard they revolutionized snowmobiling
>Hence the Rev...get it...:-) Got.... to .....have .....one!!!!!!
>The new rider position eliminates the bumps inherent with the older design.
>I think the Elites are rated for "almost" 100mph but
>alas it's only good for trail riding, I would guess.
>I'd hate to get stuck in deep snow with one of them monsters.
Yeah it sucks when you total your back and all the stuff you used to
do is now Verbotten.
I'm probably going to rent a sled for a couple of days this winter and
see how well I do on it.
Heck it was snowing a little bit here all day but mixed with rain.
It's going to be a snowmobile winter!
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:51:20 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>> No that's what they make Ski Doo's for. :)
>> Still same position pretty much as a Quad even with the REV-1 design
>> and now way can I afford an Elite. But 150HP for a side by side sled.
>> That has got to have some serious speed on the straights!
>
>Yea those Ski Doo Revs I've heard they revolutionized snowmobiling
>Hence the Rev...get it...:-) Got.... to .....have .....one!!!!!!
>The new rider position eliminates the bumps inherent with the older design.
>I think the Elites are rated for "almost" 100mph but
>alas it's only good for trail riding, I would guess.
>I'd hate to get stuck in deep snow with one of them monsters.
Yeah it sucks when you total your back and all the stuff you used to
do is now Verbotten.
I'm probably going to rent a sled for a couple of days this winter and
see how well I do on it.
Heck it was snowing a little bit here all day but mixed with rain.
It's going to be a snowmobile winter!
>> No that's what they make Ski Doo's for. :)
>> Still same position pretty much as a Quad even with the REV-1 design
>> and now way can I afford an Elite. But 150HP for a side by side sled.
>> That has got to have some serious speed on the straights!
>
>Yea those Ski Doo Revs I've heard they revolutionized snowmobiling
>Hence the Rev...get it...:-) Got.... to .....have .....one!!!!!!
>The new rider position eliminates the bumps inherent with the older design.
>I think the Elites are rated for "almost" 100mph but
>alas it's only good for trail riding, I would guess.
>I'd hate to get stuck in deep snow with one of them monsters.
Yeah it sucks when you total your back and all the stuff you used to
do is now Verbotten.
I'm probably going to rent a sled for a couple of days this winter and
see how well I do on it.
Heck it was snowing a little bit here all day but mixed with rain.
It's going to be a snowmobile winter!
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"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I think a Jeep is rated to pull 1500 lbs.
2000 pounds. interesting enough, the identical jeep in europe is rated at
5000 pounds. i wonder if right hand drive somehow magically gives it more
capability? :-)
> I might even check out the 6x6 Rangers if they handle mud so well.
theyre amazing in the mud, but i wouldnt buy one on that alone. the rhino
was pretty impressive in the mud as well. probably not quite as much as the
6x6, but its certainly no slouch either. ill know more when im able to open
it up after the engine is broken in.
--
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http://7SlotGrille.com
news:ka8gpvs0h4a1ikbnolhl0jlk4d6qhvt8bj@4ax.com...
> I think a Jeep is rated to pull 1500 lbs.
2000 pounds. interesting enough, the identical jeep in europe is rated at
5000 pounds. i wonder if right hand drive somehow magically gives it more
capability? :-)
> I might even check out the 6x6 Rangers if they handle mud so well.
theyre amazing in the mud, but i wouldnt buy one on that alone. the rhino
was pretty impressive in the mud as well. probably not quite as much as the
6x6, but its certainly no slouch either. ill know more when im able to open
it up after the engine is broken in.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
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"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I think a Jeep is rated to pull 1500 lbs.
2000 pounds. interesting enough, the identical jeep in europe is rated at
5000 pounds. i wonder if right hand drive somehow magically gives it more
capability? :-)
> I might even check out the 6x6 Rangers if they handle mud so well.
theyre amazing in the mud, but i wouldnt buy one on that alone. the rhino
was pretty impressive in the mud as well. probably not quite as much as the
6x6, but its certainly no slouch either. ill know more when im able to open
it up after the engine is broken in.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:ka8gpvs0h4a1ikbnolhl0jlk4d6qhvt8bj@4ax.com...
> I think a Jeep is rated to pull 1500 lbs.
2000 pounds. interesting enough, the identical jeep in europe is rated at
5000 pounds. i wonder if right hand drive somehow magically gives it more
capability? :-)
> I might even check out the 6x6 Rangers if they handle mud so well.
theyre amazing in the mud, but i wouldnt buy one on that alone. the rhino
was pretty impressive in the mud as well. probably not quite as much as the
6x6, but its certainly no slouch either. ill know more when im able to open
it up after the engine is broken in.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
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"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ka8gpvs0h4a1ikbnolhl0jlk4d6qhvt8bj@4ax.com...
> I think a Jeep is rated to pull 1500 lbs.
2000 pounds. interesting enough, the identical jeep in europe is rated at
5000 pounds. i wonder if right hand drive somehow magically gives it more
capability? :-)
> I might even check out the 6x6 Rangers if they handle mud so well.
theyre amazing in the mud, but i wouldnt buy one on that alone. the rhino
was pretty impressive in the mud as well. probably not quite as much as the
6x6, but its certainly no slouch either. ill know more when im able to open
it up after the engine is broken in.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:ka8gpvs0h4a1ikbnolhl0jlk4d6qhvt8bj@4ax.com...
> I think a Jeep is rated to pull 1500 lbs.
2000 pounds. interesting enough, the identical jeep in europe is rated at
5000 pounds. i wonder if right hand drive somehow magically gives it more
capability? :-)
> I might even check out the 6x6 Rangers if they handle mud so well.
theyre amazing in the mud, but i wouldnt buy one on that alone. the rhino
was pretty impressive in the mud as well. probably not quite as much as the
6x6, but its certainly no slouch either. ill know more when im able to open
it up after the engine is broken in.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com


