Nathan Collier wrote:

> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:zDAlb.1507$tG5.611@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
>
>>Actually, MP3 players are still more expensive than CD players, but you
>>can have something that doesn't skip and they are way smaller (you could
>>keep it in your coin pocket). I wouldn't wear one scuba diving tho. :)
>
>
> are you able to wire up the personal mp3 players into larger speakers and
> plug into a 12v power source?
>

My suggestion of the MP3 is so that you could take it with you. It would
be non permanent. If you want a more "installed" setup, you could use an
in-dash, or experiment a little. The only output on most MP3 players is
the headphone/earphone out. That isn't enough to drive a set of speakers
without some sort of amplification. If the speakers were self powered,
you might be able to do that. Some CD players have a speaker out or LINE
out.

In our Jeeps, we could run the headphone out of the MP3 player into the
CD (AUX) input on our stereos. Headphone is not quite LINE level, but it
will get you close enough to play it. I imagine it would not have the
full volume of the radio or CD player tho. There are companies that make
adapters for that very thing and will bring the earphone LVL up to LINE.

>
>>How are you at humming?
>
>
> lol.....thats just....mean. ;-)
>
>

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Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Nathan Collier wrote:

> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:zDAlb.1507$tG5.611@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
>
>>Actually, MP3 players are still more expensive than CD players, but you
>>can have something that doesn't skip and they are way smaller (you could
>>keep it in your coin pocket). I wouldn't wear one scuba diving tho. :)
>
>
> are you able to wire up the personal mp3 players into larger speakers and
> plug into a 12v power source?
>

My suggestion of the MP3 is so that you could take it with you. It would
be non permanent. If you want a more "installed" setup, you could use an
in-dash, or experiment a little. The only output on most MP3 players is
the headphone/earphone out. That isn't enough to drive a set of speakers
without some sort of amplification. If the speakers were self powered,
you might be able to do that. Some CD players have a speaker out or LINE
out.

In our Jeeps, we could run the headphone out of the MP3 player into the
CD (AUX) input on our stereos. Headphone is not quite LINE level, but it
will get you close enough to play it. I imagine it would not have the
full volume of the radio or CD player tho. There are companies that make
adapters for that very thing and will bring the earphone LVL up to LINE.

>
>>How are you at humming?
>
>
> lol.....thats just....mean. ;-)
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:32:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:

>The more I drive it The more I'm amazed.
>I owned it 8 years now
>I've driven it over dead fall trees,logs,branches and browse.
>Trail? We don't need no stinken trail (Seriously)

Well most ATV's and the Argo is an ATV don't need a real trail.
But they need it to be clear of lots of vertical trees. :)
That shurb brush can rip you up pretty good.

>Through loon ***** swamps
>(you know, when you sink up to your knees/crotch in it)

Yep, I know it and avoided it in maine when I was up there years ago.

>Crossed lakes,ponds and streams.

Looks a bit iffy on the depth you have to the top of the damn there is
a nautical term for it and it slips my mind! Anyway you don't have a
lot of room before water comes in and you need a bilge pump.
They send me the catalogs every couple of months and while it can
cross dead water. Anything amounting to chop would be scary.

>As for rocks... Well it's like any machine. Put the wheels on the
>highest rocks to climb over or go around.( I don't climbs rocks for fun)
>I have a skid plate on it so scraping over rocks is no problem. traction
>is no problem as it's a skid steer
>when one side starts to spin just brake it and the other side drives it
>out. I wish I had pictures of it in action.

Well what I really meant was it does not look like it has a lot of
articulation in the wheels to go up and over some of the rougher
stuff.
To me it basically looks like a variant of the M29 weasel which was
also amphibious but the Weasel had a problem in that while it could
chew through stuff that would kill a jeep it has metal tracks and was
a pain to drive with a 3 spd manual studebaker tranny.
I'd love to seea video of you putting it through it's paces. I won't
ever be able to ride a Quad agaid so the Rhino is looking mighty good
and I'll be interested to see what Nathan says about it's
capabilities.
The Argo's can only go 24 mph or so. I guess there is another company
out there that makes a similar ATV to the Argo but it has up to 8
driving wheels and is amphibious.

>With the super tracks, it also traverses deep snow (I don't have tracks
>as I have a Ski Doo MXZ)

I wonder how well those tracks would actually work since they stay on
all the time. It might climb hills a bit better with tracks.

>I use the machine only for hunting season in the Calabogie Ontario Area.
>Mike Romain kinda knows the area as it in the same general area he
>wheels in the fall.
>
>Granted some things a Quad ATV can do, may be better,(like go faster)
>but in my opinion this machine is the ultimate year round GO ANYWHERE
>all terrain vehicle. I almost bought a Quad untill I test drove it.
>I guarantee that a Jeep or Quad cannot follow me up at the hunt camp.

Quads are fast and it would be nice if they could double the speed on
the Argo. But the ground clearace is low with little articulation. So
big rocks are out but being amphibious is an asset if you have to go
through standing water. I wonder how well it will pull itself through
real Mud tho.
Dealers never let you actually play with one.
Is teh only reason the Quad can't make it up to you camp is because of
deep standing water?

I'm not trying to give you a hard time. I just am curious since my
quad riding days are over and I'd like to find smething fun. Speed is
good too tho.

 

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:32:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:

>The more I drive it The more I'm amazed.
>I owned it 8 years now
>I've driven it over dead fall trees,logs,branches and browse.
>Trail? We don't need no stinken trail (Seriously)

Well most ATV's and the Argo is an ATV don't need a real trail.
But they need it to be clear of lots of vertical trees. :)
That shurb brush can rip you up pretty good.

>Through loon ***** swamps
>(you know, when you sink up to your knees/crotch in it)

Yep, I know it and avoided it in maine when I was up there years ago.

>Crossed lakes,ponds and streams.

Looks a bit iffy on the depth you have to the top of the damn there is
a nautical term for it and it slips my mind! Anyway you don't have a
lot of room before water comes in and you need a bilge pump.
They send me the catalogs every couple of months and while it can
cross dead water. Anything amounting to chop would be scary.

>As for rocks... Well it's like any machine. Put the wheels on the
>highest rocks to climb over or go around.( I don't climbs rocks for fun)
>I have a skid plate on it so scraping over rocks is no problem. traction
>is no problem as it's a skid steer
>when one side starts to spin just brake it and the other side drives it
>out. I wish I had pictures of it in action.

Well what I really meant was it does not look like it has a lot of
articulation in the wheels to go up and over some of the rougher
stuff.
To me it basically looks like a variant of the M29 weasel which was
also amphibious but the Weasel had a problem in that while it could
chew through stuff that would kill a jeep it has metal tracks and was
a pain to drive with a 3 spd manual studebaker tranny.
I'd love to seea video of you putting it through it's paces. I won't
ever be able to ride a Quad agaid so the Rhino is looking mighty good
and I'll be interested to see what Nathan says about it's
capabilities.
The Argo's can only go 24 mph or so. I guess there is another company
out there that makes a similar ATV to the Argo but it has up to 8
driving wheels and is amphibious.

>With the super tracks, it also traverses deep snow (I don't have tracks
>as I have a Ski Doo MXZ)

I wonder how well those tracks would actually work since they stay on
all the time. It might climb hills a bit better with tracks.

>I use the machine only for hunting season in the Calabogie Ontario Area.
>Mike Romain kinda knows the area as it in the same general area he
>wheels in the fall.
>
>Granted some things a Quad ATV can do, may be better,(like go faster)
>but in my opinion this machine is the ultimate year round GO ANYWHERE
>all terrain vehicle. I almost bought a Quad untill I test drove it.
>I guarantee that a Jeep or Quad cannot follow me up at the hunt camp.

Quads are fast and it would be nice if they could double the speed on
the Argo. But the ground clearace is low with little articulation. So
big rocks are out but being amphibious is an asset if you have to go
through standing water. I wonder how well it will pull itself through
real Mud tho.
Dealers never let you actually play with one.
Is teh only reason the Quad can't make it up to you camp is because of
deep standing water?

I'm not trying to give you a hard time. I just am curious since my
quad riding days are over and I'd like to find smething fun. Speed is
good too tho.

 

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:32:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:

>The more I drive it The more I'm amazed.
>I owned it 8 years now
>I've driven it over dead fall trees,logs,branches and browse.
>Trail? We don't need no stinken trail (Seriously)

Well most ATV's and the Argo is an ATV don't need a real trail.
But they need it to be clear of lots of vertical trees. :)
That shurb brush can rip you up pretty good.

>Through loon ***** swamps
>(you know, when you sink up to your knees/crotch in it)

Yep, I know it and avoided it in maine when I was up there years ago.

>Crossed lakes,ponds and streams.

Looks a bit iffy on the depth you have to the top of the damn there is
a nautical term for it and it slips my mind! Anyway you don't have a
lot of room before water comes in and you need a bilge pump.
They send me the catalogs every couple of months and while it can
cross dead water. Anything amounting to chop would be scary.

>As for rocks... Well it's like any machine. Put the wheels on the
>highest rocks to climb over or go around.( I don't climbs rocks for fun)
>I have a skid plate on it so scraping over rocks is no problem. traction
>is no problem as it's a skid steer
>when one side starts to spin just brake it and the other side drives it
>out. I wish I had pictures of it in action.

Well what I really meant was it does not look like it has a lot of
articulation in the wheels to go up and over some of the rougher
stuff.
To me it basically looks like a variant of the M29 weasel which was
also amphibious but the Weasel had a problem in that while it could
chew through stuff that would kill a jeep it has metal tracks and was
a pain to drive with a 3 spd manual studebaker tranny.
I'd love to seea video of you putting it through it's paces. I won't
ever be able to ride a Quad agaid so the Rhino is looking mighty good
and I'll be interested to see what Nathan says about it's
capabilities.
The Argo's can only go 24 mph or so. I guess there is another company
out there that makes a similar ATV to the Argo but it has up to 8
driving wheels and is amphibious.

>With the super tracks, it also traverses deep snow (I don't have tracks
>as I have a Ski Doo MXZ)

I wonder how well those tracks would actually work since they stay on
all the time. It might climb hills a bit better with tracks.

>I use the machine only for hunting season in the Calabogie Ontario Area.
>Mike Romain kinda knows the area as it in the same general area he
>wheels in the fall.
>
>Granted some things a Quad ATV can do, may be better,(like go faster)
>but in my opinion this machine is the ultimate year round GO ANYWHERE
>all terrain vehicle. I almost bought a Quad untill I test drove it.
>I guarantee that a Jeep or Quad cannot follow me up at the hunt camp.

Quads are fast and it would be nice if they could double the speed on
the Argo. But the ground clearace is low with little articulation. So
big rocks are out but being amphibious is an asset if you have to go
through standing water. I wonder how well it will pull itself through
real Mud tho.
Dealers never let you actually play with one.
Is teh only reason the Quad can't make it up to you camp is because of
deep standing water?

I'm not trying to give you a hard time. I just am curious since my
quad riding days are over and I'd like to find smething fun. Speed is
good too tho.

 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F96D8CF.AEB662F0@sympatico.ca...
> Snorkel and a winch first....

already routing the snorkel through the roll cage, and a 3000 pound ramsey
is on my christmas list.

> And a sealed plastic box for the stereo with poly speakers. Marine
> shops have some interesting containers and you can make a sealed exit
> for the cables. Or improvise with a tupperware container and duct tape
> as a second seal....

hadnt thought about a marine shop. come to think of it, dont they sell
waterproof radios that dont require anything further?


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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F96D8CF.AEB662F0@sympatico.ca...
> Snorkel and a winch first....

already routing the snorkel through the roll cage, and a 3000 pound ramsey
is on my christmas list.

> And a sealed plastic box for the stereo with poly speakers. Marine
> shops have some interesting containers and you can make a sealed exit
> for the cables. Or improvise with a tupperware container and duct tape
> as a second seal....

hadnt thought about a marine shop. come to think of it, dont they sell
waterproof radios that dont require anything further?


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F96D8CF.AEB662F0@sympatico.ca...
> Snorkel and a winch first....

already routing the snorkel through the roll cage, and a 3000 pound ramsey
is on my christmas list.

> And a sealed plastic box for the stereo with poly speakers. Marine
> shops have some interesting containers and you can make a sealed exit
> for the cables. Or improvise with a tupperware container and duct tape
> as a second seal....

hadnt thought about a marine shop. come to think of it, dont they sell
waterproof radios that dont require anything further?


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:b-mcnQvh5uyhRguiU-KYiw@magma.ca...
> As for rocks... Well it's like any machine. Put the wheels on the
> highest rocks to climb over or go around.( I don't climbs rocks for fun)

ive met a few argo and argo type rigs on the trail in 6x6 and even 8x8
configurations. theyre a great all around machine, but my experience with
them has left me with the impression that they arent at home in rocks. im
not talking about crossing a rock here and there, im talking about in more
aggressive areas like daniel at uwharrie, or anywhere at tellico. while you
can make it go, it seems to require far more effort than i would want to put
into it. skid steer just is not effective in off camber rocky situations.

or maybe it was just those particular riders.

> I guarantee that a Jeep or Quad cannot follow me up at the hunt camp.

you talking 4x4 quads? unless youre referencing floatation......


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:b-mcnQvh5uyhRguiU-KYiw@magma.ca...
> As for rocks... Well it's like any machine. Put the wheels on the
> highest rocks to climb over or go around.( I don't climbs rocks for fun)

ive met a few argo and argo type rigs on the trail in 6x6 and even 8x8
configurations. theyre a great all around machine, but my experience with
them has left me with the impression that they arent at home in rocks. im
not talking about crossing a rock here and there, im talking about in more
aggressive areas like daniel at uwharrie, or anywhere at tellico. while you
can make it go, it seems to require far more effort than i would want to put
into it. skid steer just is not effective in off camber rocky situations.

or maybe it was just those particular riders.

> I guarantee that a Jeep or Quad cannot follow me up at the hunt camp.

you talking 4x4 quads? unless youre referencing floatation......


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com