OT texas help
09-24-2003, 11:56 PM
#41
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Re: OT texas help
Approximately 9/24/03 19:17, Tyler Dirden uttered for posterity:
> I don't think anyone has mentioned the intense, brain-baking, will-to-live
> stealing heat.
> td
> (you guys in arizona... pipe down)
Probably because El Paso isn't that hot, and when it is hot
it isn't that humid. Unlike Tucson Az. And I can prove
this since during my time in the area, one of my jobs was
automating meteorological data collection from the lower
range [just outside El Paso] up almost to Albekewkew.
> I don't think anyone has mentioned the intense, brain-baking, will-to-live
> stealing heat.
> td
> (you guys in arizona... pipe down)
Probably because El Paso isn't that hot, and when it is hot
it isn't that humid. Unlike Tucson Az. And I can prove
this since during my time in the area, one of my jobs was
automating meteorological data collection from the lower
range [just outside El Paso] up almost to Albekewkew.
09-24-2003, 11:57 PM
#42
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Re: OT texas help
Approximately 9/24/03 19:48, Nathan W. Collier uttered for posterity:
> "Tyler Dirden" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
> news:Hescb.569081$Ho3.105017@sccrnsc03...
>> I don't think anyone has mentioned the intense, brain-baking, will-to-live
>> stealing heat.
>
> the only benefit i can think of there (and its a BIG PLUS) would be pretty
> much year round topless jeep/harley/atv riding.
Actually it is kinda nice to have a bikini type top to
shade your head, yet let the dry air thru. One of the
few places where you can darn near freeze water with
one of those old canvas cooler bottles and 60 mph.
Plus you take a coupla dry ice extinguishers to play with
the rattlesnakes...
> "Tyler Dirden" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
> news:Hescb.569081$Ho3.105017@sccrnsc03...
>> I don't think anyone has mentioned the intense, brain-baking, will-to-live
>> stealing heat.
>
> the only benefit i can think of there (and its a BIG PLUS) would be pretty
> much year round topless jeep/harley/atv riding.
Actually it is kinda nice to have a bikini type top to
shade your head, yet let the dry air thru. One of the
few places where you can darn near freeze water with
one of those old canvas cooler bottles and 60 mph.
Plus you take a coupla dry ice extinguishers to play with
the rattlesnakes...
09-24-2003, 11:57 PM
#43
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Re: OT texas help
Approximately 9/24/03 19:48, Nathan W. Collier uttered for posterity:
> "Tyler Dirden" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
> news:Hescb.569081$Ho3.105017@sccrnsc03...
>> I don't think anyone has mentioned the intense, brain-baking, will-to-live
>> stealing heat.
>
> the only benefit i can think of there (and its a BIG PLUS) would be pretty
> much year round topless jeep/harley/atv riding.
Actually it is kinda nice to have a bikini type top to
shade your head, yet let the dry air thru. One of the
few places where you can darn near freeze water with
one of those old canvas cooler bottles and 60 mph.
Plus you take a coupla dry ice extinguishers to play with
the rattlesnakes...
> "Tyler Dirden" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
> news:Hescb.569081$Ho3.105017@sccrnsc03...
>> I don't think anyone has mentioned the intense, brain-baking, will-to-live
>> stealing heat.
>
> the only benefit i can think of there (and its a BIG PLUS) would be pretty
> much year round topless jeep/harley/atv riding.
Actually it is kinda nice to have a bikini type top to
shade your head, yet let the dry air thru. One of the
few places where you can darn near freeze water with
one of those old canvas cooler bottles and 60 mph.
Plus you take a coupla dry ice extinguishers to play with
the rattlesnakes...
09-25-2003, 01:43 AM
#44
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Re: OT texas help
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:47:52 UTC "Nathan W. Collier"
<JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
> "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-StMmF2R9CwJD@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not much of an El Paso fan - border town (or better , city - it's
> > a big place) and too much of a desert for me
>
> hows the riding? one of the things i fell for in montana was the riding. i
> have no doubt you could hop on an atv and ride for days. is there riding
> like that in el paso?
>
> > Amarillo is a funny town - no obvious reason it should exist but it
> > seems to just plug along.
>
> lol.....awesome description will!
>
>
> > Texas gun laws take getting used to.
>
> please explain?
Until just a few years ago, you didn't pack a handgun, period, unless
you were a peace officer. They have concealed carry now but there's a
lot of local options left to the county sheriff - join the posse if he
has one. Texas hunting (and riding) is a little tricky in that income
from hunting and access is a major revenue source for lots of folks.
I kept Dad's farm outside Abilene open for a long time - had a creek
bed and gulch that were interesting as well as enough mud to be fun.
A bunch of local a$$holes decided the back 40 we were grazing looked
like more fun and tore it one time too many so that ended that -
invitation only, releases and all that stuff until it sold last fall.
If you can get to know the local ranchers, they don't mind opening up
but pitching some hay and helping around the place is a good start.
The Big Bend country is pretty open but be careful - it's a desert
mountain range and unforgiving of stupidity. The Park Service has
some rules about firearms - just learn the rules and be very careful
if a trooper pulls you over out there since they are a bit twitchy
given the environment.
I rather liked Amarillo. I'll see if I can find the web page for the
Jeep group there. Some of their events draw from all over the state
and most of the runs end up with an impressive list of broken parts
for the aggressive rigs. They also have some events over in the New
Mexico mountains on private land - sounds like a good group to be
around but I've never hooked up with them. I've always been on my way
someplace else or had the top and wife along so I haven't stopped to
play - yet. BTW, a couple of hundred miles is in the local
neighborhood in West Texas. You couldn't give me the Dallas-Ft. Worth
area and Houston comes close to my definition of the armpit of the
world. The area south and east of El Paso is sparsely populated, to
say the least. When I was in Del Rio in the late 60's we had 2
two-ship formations collide headon. The two lead a/c went down
instantly - 850 kt closure rates don't leave many survivors - and one
wing crew punched out. Even with locator beacons it took over 48
hours to find them just north of the Big Bend. There's some good
country north and west into New Mexico up near White Sands as well but
you have to like the desert. Amarillo is more plains and cow country.
--
Will Honea
<JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
> "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-StMmF2R9CwJD@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not much of an El Paso fan - border town (or better , city - it's
> > a big place) and too much of a desert for me
>
> hows the riding? one of the things i fell for in montana was the riding. i
> have no doubt you could hop on an atv and ride for days. is there riding
> like that in el paso?
>
> > Amarillo is a funny town - no obvious reason it should exist but it
> > seems to just plug along.
>
> lol.....awesome description will!
>
>
> > Texas gun laws take getting used to.
>
> please explain?
Until just a few years ago, you didn't pack a handgun, period, unless
you were a peace officer. They have concealed carry now but there's a
lot of local options left to the county sheriff - join the posse if he
has one. Texas hunting (and riding) is a little tricky in that income
from hunting and access is a major revenue source for lots of folks.
I kept Dad's farm outside Abilene open for a long time - had a creek
bed and gulch that were interesting as well as enough mud to be fun.
A bunch of local a$$holes decided the back 40 we were grazing looked
like more fun and tore it one time too many so that ended that -
invitation only, releases and all that stuff until it sold last fall.
If you can get to know the local ranchers, they don't mind opening up
but pitching some hay and helping around the place is a good start.
The Big Bend country is pretty open but be careful - it's a desert
mountain range and unforgiving of stupidity. The Park Service has
some rules about firearms - just learn the rules and be very careful
if a trooper pulls you over out there since they are a bit twitchy
given the environment.
I rather liked Amarillo. I'll see if I can find the web page for the
Jeep group there. Some of their events draw from all over the state
and most of the runs end up with an impressive list of broken parts
for the aggressive rigs. They also have some events over in the New
Mexico mountains on private land - sounds like a good group to be
around but I've never hooked up with them. I've always been on my way
someplace else or had the top and wife along so I haven't stopped to
play - yet. BTW, a couple of hundred miles is in the local
neighborhood in West Texas. You couldn't give me the Dallas-Ft. Worth
area and Houston comes close to my definition of the armpit of the
world. The area south and east of El Paso is sparsely populated, to
say the least. When I was in Del Rio in the late 60's we had 2
two-ship formations collide headon. The two lead a/c went down
instantly - 850 kt closure rates don't leave many survivors - and one
wing crew punched out. Even with locator beacons it took over 48
hours to find them just north of the Big Bend. There's some good
country north and west into New Mexico up near White Sands as well but
you have to like the desert. Amarillo is more plains and cow country.
--
Will Honea
09-25-2003, 01:43 AM
#45
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Re: OT texas help
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:47:52 UTC "Nathan W. Collier"
<JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
> "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-StMmF2R9CwJD@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not much of an El Paso fan - border town (or better , city - it's
> > a big place) and too much of a desert for me
>
> hows the riding? one of the things i fell for in montana was the riding. i
> have no doubt you could hop on an atv and ride for days. is there riding
> like that in el paso?
>
> > Amarillo is a funny town - no obvious reason it should exist but it
> > seems to just plug along.
>
> lol.....awesome description will!
>
>
> > Texas gun laws take getting used to.
>
> please explain?
Until just a few years ago, you didn't pack a handgun, period, unless
you were a peace officer. They have concealed carry now but there's a
lot of local options left to the county sheriff - join the posse if he
has one. Texas hunting (and riding) is a little tricky in that income
from hunting and access is a major revenue source for lots of folks.
I kept Dad's farm outside Abilene open for a long time - had a creek
bed and gulch that were interesting as well as enough mud to be fun.
A bunch of local a$$holes decided the back 40 we were grazing looked
like more fun and tore it one time too many so that ended that -
invitation only, releases and all that stuff until it sold last fall.
If you can get to know the local ranchers, they don't mind opening up
but pitching some hay and helping around the place is a good start.
The Big Bend country is pretty open but be careful - it's a desert
mountain range and unforgiving of stupidity. The Park Service has
some rules about firearms - just learn the rules and be very careful
if a trooper pulls you over out there since they are a bit twitchy
given the environment.
I rather liked Amarillo. I'll see if I can find the web page for the
Jeep group there. Some of their events draw from all over the state
and most of the runs end up with an impressive list of broken parts
for the aggressive rigs. They also have some events over in the New
Mexico mountains on private land - sounds like a good group to be
around but I've never hooked up with them. I've always been on my way
someplace else or had the top and wife along so I haven't stopped to
play - yet. BTW, a couple of hundred miles is in the local
neighborhood in West Texas. You couldn't give me the Dallas-Ft. Worth
area and Houston comes close to my definition of the armpit of the
world. The area south and east of El Paso is sparsely populated, to
say the least. When I was in Del Rio in the late 60's we had 2
two-ship formations collide headon. The two lead a/c went down
instantly - 850 kt closure rates don't leave many survivors - and one
wing crew punched out. Even with locator beacons it took over 48
hours to find them just north of the Big Bend. There's some good
country north and west into New Mexico up near White Sands as well but
you have to like the desert. Amarillo is more plains and cow country.
--
Will Honea
<JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
> "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-StMmF2R9CwJD@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not much of an El Paso fan - border town (or better , city - it's
> > a big place) and too much of a desert for me
>
> hows the riding? one of the things i fell for in montana was the riding. i
> have no doubt you could hop on an atv and ride for days. is there riding
> like that in el paso?
>
> > Amarillo is a funny town - no obvious reason it should exist but it
> > seems to just plug along.
>
> lol.....awesome description will!
>
>
> > Texas gun laws take getting used to.
>
> please explain?
Until just a few years ago, you didn't pack a handgun, period, unless
you were a peace officer. They have concealed carry now but there's a
lot of local options left to the county sheriff - join the posse if he
has one. Texas hunting (and riding) is a little tricky in that income
from hunting and access is a major revenue source for lots of folks.
I kept Dad's farm outside Abilene open for a long time - had a creek
bed and gulch that were interesting as well as enough mud to be fun.
A bunch of local a$$holes decided the back 40 we were grazing looked
like more fun and tore it one time too many so that ended that -
invitation only, releases and all that stuff until it sold last fall.
If you can get to know the local ranchers, they don't mind opening up
but pitching some hay and helping around the place is a good start.
The Big Bend country is pretty open but be careful - it's a desert
mountain range and unforgiving of stupidity. The Park Service has
some rules about firearms - just learn the rules and be very careful
if a trooper pulls you over out there since they are a bit twitchy
given the environment.
I rather liked Amarillo. I'll see if I can find the web page for the
Jeep group there. Some of their events draw from all over the state
and most of the runs end up with an impressive list of broken parts
for the aggressive rigs. They also have some events over in the New
Mexico mountains on private land - sounds like a good group to be
around but I've never hooked up with them. I've always been on my way
someplace else or had the top and wife along so I haven't stopped to
play - yet. BTW, a couple of hundred miles is in the local
neighborhood in West Texas. You couldn't give me the Dallas-Ft. Worth
area and Houston comes close to my definition of the armpit of the
world. The area south and east of El Paso is sparsely populated, to
say the least. When I was in Del Rio in the late 60's we had 2
two-ship formations collide headon. The two lead a/c went down
instantly - 850 kt closure rates don't leave many survivors - and one
wing crew punched out. Even with locator beacons it took over 48
hours to find them just north of the Big Bend. There's some good
country north and west into New Mexico up near White Sands as well but
you have to like the desert. Amarillo is more plains and cow country.
--
Will Honea
09-25-2003, 01:09 PM
#46
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Re: OT texas help
Here's the Amarillo Jeep club:
http://www.belchfirecomputing.com/
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:47:52 UTC "Nathan W. Collier"
<JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
> "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-StMmF2R9CwJD@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not much of an El Paso fan - border town (or better , city - it's
> > a big place) and too much of a desert for me
>
> hows the riding? one of the things i fell for in montana was the riding. i
> have no doubt you could hop on an atv and ride for days. is there riding
> like that in el paso?
>
> > Amarillo is a funny town - no obvious reason it should exist but it
> > seems to just plug along.
>
> lol.....awesome description will!
>
>
> > Texas gun laws take getting used to.
>
> please explain?
>
> thanks,
>
--
Will Honea
http://www.belchfirecomputing.com/
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:47:52 UTC "Nathan W. Collier"
<JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
> "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-StMmF2R9CwJD@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not much of an El Paso fan - border town (or better , city - it's
> > a big place) and too much of a desert for me
>
> hows the riding? one of the things i fell for in montana was the riding. i
> have no doubt you could hop on an atv and ride for days. is there riding
> like that in el paso?
>
> > Amarillo is a funny town - no obvious reason it should exist but it
> > seems to just plug along.
>
> lol.....awesome description will!
>
>
> > Texas gun laws take getting used to.
>
> please explain?
>
> thanks,
>
--
Will Honea
09-25-2003, 01:09 PM
#47
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Re: OT texas help
Here's the Amarillo Jeep club:
http://www.belchfirecomputing.com/
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:47:52 UTC "Nathan W. Collier"
<JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
> "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-StMmF2R9CwJD@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not much of an El Paso fan - border town (or better , city - it's
> > a big place) and too much of a desert for me
>
> hows the riding? one of the things i fell for in montana was the riding. i
> have no doubt you could hop on an atv and ride for days. is there riding
> like that in el paso?
>
> > Amarillo is a funny town - no obvious reason it should exist but it
> > seems to just plug along.
>
> lol.....awesome description will!
>
>
> > Texas gun laws take getting used to.
>
> please explain?
>
> thanks,
>
--
Will Honea
http://www.belchfirecomputing.com/
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:47:52 UTC "Nathan W. Collier"
<JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
> "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-StMmF2R9CwJD@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not much of an El Paso fan - border town (or better , city - it's
> > a big place) and too much of a desert for me
>
> hows the riding? one of the things i fell for in montana was the riding. i
> have no doubt you could hop on an atv and ride for days. is there riding
> like that in el paso?
>
> > Amarillo is a funny town - no obvious reason it should exist but it
> > seems to just plug along.
>
> lol.....awesome description will!
>
>
> > Texas gun laws take getting used to.
>
> please explain?
>
> thanks,
>
--
Will Honea
09-25-2003, 01:23 PM
#48
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Re: OT texas help
In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-9QuL3bliLTuK@anon.none.net>,
Will Honea <will@codenet.net> wrote:
>Here's the Amarillo Jeep club:
>
>http://www.belchfirecomputing.com/
nofurrinbelshfireputerin.com sounds more appropriate down there.
:-)
>
>
>On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:47:52 UTC "Nathan W. Collier"
><JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>
>> "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
>> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-StMmF2R9CwJD@anon.none.net...
>> > I'm not much of an El Paso fan - border town (or better , city - it's
>> > a big place) and too much of a desert for me
>>
>> hows the riding? one of the things i fell for in montana was the riding. i
>> have no doubt you could hop on an atv and ride for days. is there riding
>> like that in el paso?
>>
>> > Amarillo is a funny town - no obvious reason it should exist but it
>> > seems to just plug along.
>>
>> lol.....awesome description will!
>>
>>
>> > Texas gun laws take getting used to.
>>
>> please explain?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>
>
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>Will Honea
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Will Honea <will@codenet.net> wrote:
>Here's the Amarillo Jeep club:
>
>http://www.belchfirecomputing.com/
nofurrinbelshfireputerin.com sounds more appropriate down there.
:-)
>
>
>On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:47:52 UTC "Nathan W. Collier"
><JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>
>> "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
>> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-StMmF2R9CwJD@anon.none.net...
>> > I'm not much of an El Paso fan - border town (or better , city - it's
>> > a big place) and too much of a desert for me
>>
>> hows the riding? one of the things i fell for in montana was the riding. i
>> have no doubt you could hop on an atv and ride for days. is there riding
>> like that in el paso?
>>
>> > Amarillo is a funny town - no obvious reason it should exist but it
>> > seems to just plug along.
>>
>> lol.....awesome description will!
>>
>>
>> > Texas gun laws take getting used to.
>>
>> please explain?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>
>
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09-25-2003, 01:23 PM
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Re: OT texas help
In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-9QuL3bliLTuK@anon.none.net>,
Will Honea <will@codenet.net> wrote:
>Here's the Amarillo Jeep club:
>
>http://www.belchfirecomputing.com/
nofurrinbelshfireputerin.com sounds more appropriate down there.
:-)
>
>
>On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:47:52 UTC "Nathan W. Collier"
><JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>
>> "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
>> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-StMmF2R9CwJD@anon.none.net...
>> > I'm not much of an El Paso fan - border town (or better , city - it's
>> > a big place) and too much of a desert for me
>>
>> hows the riding? one of the things i fell for in montana was the riding. i
>> have no doubt you could hop on an atv and ride for days. is there riding
>> like that in el paso?
>>
>> > Amarillo is a funny town - no obvious reason it should exist but it
>> > seems to just plug along.
>>
>> lol.....awesome description will!
>>
>>
>> > Texas gun laws take getting used to.
>>
>> please explain?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>
>
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Will Honea <will@codenet.net> wrote:
>Here's the Amarillo Jeep club:
>
>http://www.belchfirecomputing.com/
nofurrinbelshfireputerin.com sounds more appropriate down there.
:-)
>
>
>On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:47:52 UTC "Nathan W. Collier"
><JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>
>> "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
>> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-StMmF2R9CwJD@anon.none.net...
>> > I'm not much of an El Paso fan - border town (or better , city - it's
>> > a big place) and too much of a desert for me
>>
>> hows the riding? one of the things i fell for in montana was the riding. i
>> have no doubt you could hop on an atv and ride for days. is there riding
>> like that in el paso?
>>
>> > Amarillo is a funny town - no obvious reason it should exist but it
>> > seems to just plug along.
>>
>> lol.....awesome description will!
>>
>>
>> > Texas gun laws take getting used to.
>>
>> please explain?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>
>
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09-25-2003, 03:18 PM
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Re: OT texas help
>
> any wheeling to be found?
Lots of wheeling. Mostly sand, some rock. No mud whatsoever.
> any greenery (trees, grass)?
Absolutely none. Flat as a frying pan and just about as much
vegetation.
> does it snow in the
> winter?
You are dealing with a semi-desert climate. Snow is possible but not
all that frequent due to generally low precipitation. Annual
precipitation out there is something like 4 inches per year.
is it racially balanced or is it overwhelming in any direction
> (balance is fine, i just dont want to be a minority anymore)?
70% white, 25% mexican, 5% miscellaneous
is oil an
> active industry (good welding money in oil fields)?
Yes.... this week.
are large tracts of
> rural land available or have ranchers got it all?
hahahaha! There are monstrous tracts of empty land out there. Why
anyone would want it is beyond me, however.
is it a "good" place to
> raise a family?
Totally depends on your preferences. Some people would consider it
too redneck.
> any wheeling to be found?
Lots of wheeling. Mostly sand, some rock. No mud whatsoever.
> any greenery (trees, grass)?
Absolutely none. Flat as a frying pan and just about as much
vegetation.
> does it snow in the
> winter?
You are dealing with a semi-desert climate. Snow is possible but not
all that frequent due to generally low precipitation. Annual
precipitation out there is something like 4 inches per year.
is it racially balanced or is it overwhelming in any direction
> (balance is fine, i just dont want to be a minority anymore)?
70% white, 25% mexican, 5% miscellaneous
is oil an
> active industry (good welding money in oil fields)?
Yes.... this week.
are large tracts of
> rural land available or have ranchers got it all?
hahahaha! There are monstrous tracts of empty land out there. Why
anyone would want it is beyond me, however.
is it a "good" place to
> raise a family?
Totally depends on your preferences. Some people would consider it
too redneck.