OT texas help
09-24-2003, 08:01 PM
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Re: OT texas help
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Well, from what I have heard, everything is bigger there...
>
> LOL!
that could be good _or_ bad. :-)
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> Well, from what I have heard, everything is bigger there...
>
> LOL!
that could be good _or_ bad. :-)
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09-24-2003, 08:10 PM
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Re: OT texas help
Approximately 9/24/03 16:36, DougW uttered for posterity:
> Nathan W. Collier did pass the time by typing:
>> please pardon the off topic thread:
>>
>> as our search continues, the wifey got two very interesting offers today
>> (shes listed with a national nursing job publication) out of texas. one was
>> el paso, and the other was amarillo. i know nothing about these areas and
>> would appreciate honest advice on them. the wifey has family in houston (i
>> wont even consider houston) so these offers got her attention and shes asked
>> me to explore the towns.
>> thanks,
>
> Never been to ElPaso, but I've stopped several times
> in Amarillo. (it's on the drive to Peterson AFB in
> Colorado Springs)
>
>
> Either way your going to have to drive to scenery,
> It's kinda flat.
El Paso is about as flat as a folded tent. High
mountain desert type terrain with really fierce looking
mountains, medium height lava flows, sand dunes, white
sand dunes. There is a coupla thousand feet elevation
difference just between the south [Rio Grande] and
north side of town which is built on the side of a
set of mountain ridges with a really nice car ride to
the top peak.
>
> El Paso is ON the border with Mexico, due south of Albuquerque.
> And on the edge of the aptly named Ft. Bliss Army Base. ^:o)
Is a long way from Albukewkew. Is much nearer Carlsbad
Caverns. And Alamogogo. And Los Alamos [which can be
a blast...]. And Las Cruces. And Organ [home of
Pat Garett]. And Ruidoso.
>
> That's about it for my knowlege... You prolly could get a job
> with the Border Patrol. Drive a Jeep all day long.
I'd see if White Sands, Biggs AFB, Holloman AFB, or
NASA Journada needs welders.
If Nathan comes up with good roll bars, would think that
alone could fund him. Seems the locals have a form of
recreation called sand dune jumping. There are about
as many old BLM trails as there are military ones.
> Nathan W. Collier did pass the time by typing:
>> please pardon the off topic thread:
>>
>> as our search continues, the wifey got two very interesting offers today
>> (shes listed with a national nursing job publication) out of texas. one was
>> el paso, and the other was amarillo. i know nothing about these areas and
>> would appreciate honest advice on them. the wifey has family in houston (i
>> wont even consider houston) so these offers got her attention and shes asked
>> me to explore the towns.
>> thanks,
>
> Never been to ElPaso, but I've stopped several times
> in Amarillo. (it's on the drive to Peterson AFB in
> Colorado Springs)
>
>
> Either way your going to have to drive to scenery,
> It's kinda flat.
El Paso is about as flat as a folded tent. High
mountain desert type terrain with really fierce looking
mountains, medium height lava flows, sand dunes, white
sand dunes. There is a coupla thousand feet elevation
difference just between the south [Rio Grande] and
north side of town which is built on the side of a
set of mountain ridges with a really nice car ride to
the top peak.
>
> El Paso is ON the border with Mexico, due south of Albuquerque.
> And on the edge of the aptly named Ft. Bliss Army Base. ^:o)
Is a long way from Albukewkew. Is much nearer Carlsbad
Caverns. And Alamogogo. And Los Alamos [which can be
a blast...]. And Las Cruces. And Organ [home of
Pat Garett]. And Ruidoso.
>
> That's about it for my knowlege... You prolly could get a job
> with the Border Patrol. Drive a Jeep all day long.
I'd see if White Sands, Biggs AFB, Holloman AFB, or
NASA Journada needs welders.
If Nathan comes up with good roll bars, would think that
alone could fund him. Seems the locals have a form of
recreation called sand dune jumping. There are about
as many old BLM trails as there are military ones.
09-24-2003, 08:10 PM
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Re: OT texas help
Approximately 9/24/03 16:36, DougW uttered for posterity:
> Nathan W. Collier did pass the time by typing:
>> please pardon the off topic thread:
>>
>> as our search continues, the wifey got two very interesting offers today
>> (shes listed with a national nursing job publication) out of texas. one was
>> el paso, and the other was amarillo. i know nothing about these areas and
>> would appreciate honest advice on them. the wifey has family in houston (i
>> wont even consider houston) so these offers got her attention and shes asked
>> me to explore the towns.
>> thanks,
>
> Never been to ElPaso, but I've stopped several times
> in Amarillo. (it's on the drive to Peterson AFB in
> Colorado Springs)
>
>
> Either way your going to have to drive to scenery,
> It's kinda flat.
El Paso is about as flat as a folded tent. High
mountain desert type terrain with really fierce looking
mountains, medium height lava flows, sand dunes, white
sand dunes. There is a coupla thousand feet elevation
difference just between the south [Rio Grande] and
north side of town which is built on the side of a
set of mountain ridges with a really nice car ride to
the top peak.
>
> El Paso is ON the border with Mexico, due south of Albuquerque.
> And on the edge of the aptly named Ft. Bliss Army Base. ^:o)
Is a long way from Albukewkew. Is much nearer Carlsbad
Caverns. And Alamogogo. And Los Alamos [which can be
a blast...]. And Las Cruces. And Organ [home of
Pat Garett]. And Ruidoso.
>
> That's about it for my knowlege... You prolly could get a job
> with the Border Patrol. Drive a Jeep all day long.
I'd see if White Sands, Biggs AFB, Holloman AFB, or
NASA Journada needs welders.
If Nathan comes up with good roll bars, would think that
alone could fund him. Seems the locals have a form of
recreation called sand dune jumping. There are about
as many old BLM trails as there are military ones.
> Nathan W. Collier did pass the time by typing:
>> please pardon the off topic thread:
>>
>> as our search continues, the wifey got two very interesting offers today
>> (shes listed with a national nursing job publication) out of texas. one was
>> el paso, and the other was amarillo. i know nothing about these areas and
>> would appreciate honest advice on them. the wifey has family in houston (i
>> wont even consider houston) so these offers got her attention and shes asked
>> me to explore the towns.
>> thanks,
>
> Never been to ElPaso, but I've stopped several times
> in Amarillo. (it's on the drive to Peterson AFB in
> Colorado Springs)
>
>
> Either way your going to have to drive to scenery,
> It's kinda flat.
El Paso is about as flat as a folded tent. High
mountain desert type terrain with really fierce looking
mountains, medium height lava flows, sand dunes, white
sand dunes. There is a coupla thousand feet elevation
difference just between the south [Rio Grande] and
north side of town which is built on the side of a
set of mountain ridges with a really nice car ride to
the top peak.
>
> El Paso is ON the border with Mexico, due south of Albuquerque.
> And on the edge of the aptly named Ft. Bliss Army Base. ^:o)
Is a long way from Albukewkew. Is much nearer Carlsbad
Caverns. And Alamogogo. And Los Alamos [which can be
a blast...]. And Las Cruces. And Organ [home of
Pat Garett]. And Ruidoso.
>
> That's about it for my knowlege... You prolly could get a job
> with the Border Patrol. Drive a Jeep all day long.
I'd see if White Sands, Biggs AFB, Holloman AFB, or
NASA Journada needs welders.
If Nathan comes up with good roll bars, would think that
alone could fund him. Seems the locals have a form of
recreation called sand dune jumping. There are about
as many old BLM trails as there are military ones.
09-24-2003, 08:18 PM
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Re: OT texas help
Approximately 9/24/03 16:51, Nathan W. Collier uttered for posterity:
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:iUpcb.54982$gV.20050@news2.central.***.net...
>> Either way your going to have to drive to scenery,
>> It's kinda flat.
>
> any wheeling to be found? any greenery (trees, grass)? does it snow in the
> winter? is it racially balanced or is it overwhelming in any direction
> (balance is fine, i just dont want to be a minority anymore)? is oil an
> active industry (good welding money in oil fields)? are large tracts of
> rural land available or have ranchers got it all? is it a "good" place to
> raise a family?
Wheeling all over the place.
There is a tiny bit of greenery, but
it is rare enough it is a felony to touch it. >:-)
It has been known to "snow" in the winter but it never lasts
more than a day or causes much more than one PITA rush hour.
El Paso is at high altitude, but is well south.
El Paso is an old spanish town and still has many of the
very old wealth type spanish folks. Also has a mix of
not so wealthy spanish folks. Bilingual helps. I'd
guess when I was there [60's] that El Paso was just over
half hispanic, which is much less than Las Cruces. So
you'd be in the minority, but a very highly educated
minority which is probably much different than
Fayettenam.
There are tracts of land available, but El Paso is a big
town to get in and out of. Also there isn't a heck of
a lot of water on any rural tract.
I don't recall any oil in the area, but there was
natural gas, plus a lot of military stuff.
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:iUpcb.54982$gV.20050@news2.central.***.net...
>> Either way your going to have to drive to scenery,
>> It's kinda flat.
>
> any wheeling to be found? any greenery (trees, grass)? does it snow in the
> winter? is it racially balanced or is it overwhelming in any direction
> (balance is fine, i just dont want to be a minority anymore)? is oil an
> active industry (good welding money in oil fields)? are large tracts of
> rural land available or have ranchers got it all? is it a "good" place to
> raise a family?
Wheeling all over the place.
There is a tiny bit of greenery, but
it is rare enough it is a felony to touch it. >:-)
It has been known to "snow" in the winter but it never lasts
more than a day or causes much more than one PITA rush hour.
El Paso is at high altitude, but is well south.
El Paso is an old spanish town and still has many of the
very old wealth type spanish folks. Also has a mix of
not so wealthy spanish folks. Bilingual helps. I'd
guess when I was there [60's] that El Paso was just over
half hispanic, which is much less than Las Cruces. So
you'd be in the minority, but a very highly educated
minority which is probably much different than
Fayettenam.
There are tracts of land available, but El Paso is a big
town to get in and out of. Also there isn't a heck of
a lot of water on any rural tract.
I don't recall any oil in the area, but there was
natural gas, plus a lot of military stuff.
09-24-2003, 08:18 PM
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Re: OT texas help
Approximately 9/24/03 16:51, Nathan W. Collier uttered for posterity:
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:iUpcb.54982$gV.20050@news2.central.***.net...
>> Either way your going to have to drive to scenery,
>> It's kinda flat.
>
> any wheeling to be found? any greenery (trees, grass)? does it snow in the
> winter? is it racially balanced or is it overwhelming in any direction
> (balance is fine, i just dont want to be a minority anymore)? is oil an
> active industry (good welding money in oil fields)? are large tracts of
> rural land available or have ranchers got it all? is it a "good" place to
> raise a family?
Wheeling all over the place.
There is a tiny bit of greenery, but
it is rare enough it is a felony to touch it. >:-)
It has been known to "snow" in the winter but it never lasts
more than a day or causes much more than one PITA rush hour.
El Paso is at high altitude, but is well south.
El Paso is an old spanish town and still has many of the
very old wealth type spanish folks. Also has a mix of
not so wealthy spanish folks. Bilingual helps. I'd
guess when I was there [60's] that El Paso was just over
half hispanic, which is much less than Las Cruces. So
you'd be in the minority, but a very highly educated
minority which is probably much different than
Fayettenam.
There are tracts of land available, but El Paso is a big
town to get in and out of. Also there isn't a heck of
a lot of water on any rural tract.
I don't recall any oil in the area, but there was
natural gas, plus a lot of military stuff.
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:iUpcb.54982$gV.20050@news2.central.***.net...
>> Either way your going to have to drive to scenery,
>> It's kinda flat.
>
> any wheeling to be found? any greenery (trees, grass)? does it snow in the
> winter? is it racially balanced or is it overwhelming in any direction
> (balance is fine, i just dont want to be a minority anymore)? is oil an
> active industry (good welding money in oil fields)? are large tracts of
> rural land available or have ranchers got it all? is it a "good" place to
> raise a family?
Wheeling all over the place.
There is a tiny bit of greenery, but
it is rare enough it is a felony to touch it. >:-)
It has been known to "snow" in the winter but it never lasts
more than a day or causes much more than one PITA rush hour.
El Paso is at high altitude, but is well south.
El Paso is an old spanish town and still has many of the
very old wealth type spanish folks. Also has a mix of
not so wealthy spanish folks. Bilingual helps. I'd
guess when I was there [60's] that El Paso was just over
half hispanic, which is much less than Las Cruces. So
you'd be in the minority, but a very highly educated
minority which is probably much different than
Fayettenam.
There are tracts of land available, but El Paso is a big
town to get in and out of. Also there isn't a heck of
a lot of water on any rural tract.
I don't recall any oil in the area, but there was
natural gas, plus a lot of military stuff.
09-24-2003, 09:12 PM
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Re: OT texas help
Nathan W. Collier did pass the time by typing:
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:iUpcb.54982$gV.20050@news2.central.***.net...
>> Either way your going to have to drive to scenery,
>> It's kinda flat.
>
> any wheeling to be found? any greenery (trees, grass)? does it snow in the
> winter? is it racially balanced or is it overwhelming in any direction
> (balance is fine, i just dont want to be a minority anymore)? is oil an
> active industry (good welding money in oil fields)? are large tracts of
> rural land available or have ranchers got it all? is it a "good" place to
> raise a family?
What Lon said.
>> El Paso is ON the border with Mexico, due south of Albuquerque.
>> And on the edge of the aptly named Ft. Bliss Army Base. ^:o)
>
> do you know anything like the questions listed above about it by chance?
Not rilly. I just pass through Amarillo on the way someplace else.
As you go further west it gets more hilly, but your all the
way to Colorado or NewMexico before you find any real steep stuff.
09-24-2003, 09:12 PM
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Re: OT texas help
Nathan W. Collier did pass the time by typing:
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:iUpcb.54982$gV.20050@news2.central.***.net...
>> Either way your going to have to drive to scenery,
>> It's kinda flat.
>
> any wheeling to be found? any greenery (trees, grass)? does it snow in the
> winter? is it racially balanced or is it overwhelming in any direction
> (balance is fine, i just dont want to be a minority anymore)? is oil an
> active industry (good welding money in oil fields)? are large tracts of
> rural land available or have ranchers got it all? is it a "good" place to
> raise a family?
What Lon said.
>> El Paso is ON the border with Mexico, due south of Albuquerque.
>> And on the edge of the aptly named Ft. Bliss Army Base. ^:o)
>
> do you know anything like the questions listed above about it by chance?
Not rilly. I just pass through Amarillo on the way someplace else.
As you go further west it gets more hilly, but your all the
way to Colorado or NewMexico before you find any real steep stuff.
09-24-2003, 09:49 PM
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"Lon Stowell" <Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote in message
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> http://www.ci.el-paso.tx.us/ and http://www.elpaso.org/
>
> Last time I lived in El Paso was 1965
awesome......somehow i _knew_ youd be able to hook me up lon!
> No state, city, county taxes.
does that include sales tax?
> It is dry out there
good, im tired of choking on east coast humidity.
> As for offroading, prepare to cream your jeans. Just watch
> out for goatheads [nasty weeds that will puncture tire sidewalls]
> and sidewinders and gila monsters. The horny toads and
> tarantulas make good pets. And don't go into the old
> lava flows [called malpais] at night, the snakes think
> they are condo vacation resorts.
are kids able to play outside without fear of snakes/scorpions/tarantulas
and other monsters? are you able to ride off on an atv and camp under the
stars or do you need to make special provisions to keep from being biten or
eaten by anything?
> If you are a rock hound you will cream your jeans twice,
> once for the jeeping, the other for the rocks.
so there are rock crawling trails for jeeps and atv's? how are the atv
laws? can you ride on the roads?
> Not the same as Montana by any means, and not like Moab
> area with the big red sandstones either. The mountains
> around El Paso are obviously volcanic in nature, and none
> are climbable by humans. Once you see the Organ Mountains,
> you'll see what I mean.
i dont really care for rock crawling on foot. i do enjoy it by jeep/atv
though.
> I'd strongly recommend a flight out there to see if you
> and the missus can click with the locals. Rent a Jeep.
agreed. we're already making reservations. we're going to check out
several states first hand before we do anything. great falls is still my
first choice (well, helena is actually but the pay scale there is lower) but
im going into this with an open mind. if both of us arent happy, neither
will be.
> And check these out:
>
> http://www.nmsu.edu/~geology/amato/images/organ1.jpg
>
> http://www.organmountainphotos.com/
>
> http://www.hec.utah.edu/~gazz/mesilla/organ2.jpg
awesome links! thanks lon.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:udqcb.574021$uu5.94399@sccrnsc04...
> http://www.ci.el-paso.tx.us/ and http://www.elpaso.org/
>
> Last time I lived in El Paso was 1965
awesome......somehow i _knew_ youd be able to hook me up lon!
> No state, city, county taxes.
does that include sales tax?
> It is dry out there
good, im tired of choking on east coast humidity.
> As for offroading, prepare to cream your jeans. Just watch
> out for goatheads [nasty weeds that will puncture tire sidewalls]
> and sidewinders and gila monsters. The horny toads and
> tarantulas make good pets. And don't go into the old
> lava flows [called malpais] at night, the snakes think
> they are condo vacation resorts.
are kids able to play outside without fear of snakes/scorpions/tarantulas
and other monsters? are you able to ride off on an atv and camp under the
stars or do you need to make special provisions to keep from being biten or
eaten by anything?
> If you are a rock hound you will cream your jeans twice,
> once for the jeeping, the other for the rocks.
so there are rock crawling trails for jeeps and atv's? how are the atv
laws? can you ride on the roads?
> Not the same as Montana by any means, and not like Moab
> area with the big red sandstones either. The mountains
> around El Paso are obviously volcanic in nature, and none
> are climbable by humans. Once you see the Organ Mountains,
> you'll see what I mean.
i dont really care for rock crawling on foot. i do enjoy it by jeep/atv
though.
> I'd strongly recommend a flight out there to see if you
> and the missus can click with the locals. Rent a Jeep.
agreed. we're already making reservations. we're going to check out
several states first hand before we do anything. great falls is still my
first choice (well, helena is actually but the pay scale there is lower) but
im going into this with an open mind. if both of us arent happy, neither
will be.
> And check these out:
>
> http://www.nmsu.edu/~geology/amato/images/organ1.jpg
>
> http://www.organmountainphotos.com/
>
> http://www.hec.utah.edu/~gazz/mesilla/organ2.jpg
awesome links! thanks lon.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
09-24-2003, 09:49 PM
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Re: OT texas help
"Lon Stowell" <Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote in message
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> http://www.ci.el-paso.tx.us/ and http://www.elpaso.org/
>
> Last time I lived in El Paso was 1965
awesome......somehow i _knew_ youd be able to hook me up lon!
> No state, city, county taxes.
does that include sales tax?
> It is dry out there
good, im tired of choking on east coast humidity.
> As for offroading, prepare to cream your jeans. Just watch
> out for goatheads [nasty weeds that will puncture tire sidewalls]
> and sidewinders and gila monsters. The horny toads and
> tarantulas make good pets. And don't go into the old
> lava flows [called malpais] at night, the snakes think
> they are condo vacation resorts.
are kids able to play outside without fear of snakes/scorpions/tarantulas
and other monsters? are you able to ride off on an atv and camp under the
stars or do you need to make special provisions to keep from being biten or
eaten by anything?
> If you are a rock hound you will cream your jeans twice,
> once for the jeeping, the other for the rocks.
so there are rock crawling trails for jeeps and atv's? how are the atv
laws? can you ride on the roads?
> Not the same as Montana by any means, and not like Moab
> area with the big red sandstones either. The mountains
> around El Paso are obviously volcanic in nature, and none
> are climbable by humans. Once you see the Organ Mountains,
> you'll see what I mean.
i dont really care for rock crawling on foot. i do enjoy it by jeep/atv
though.
> I'd strongly recommend a flight out there to see if you
> and the missus can click with the locals. Rent a Jeep.
agreed. we're already making reservations. we're going to check out
several states first hand before we do anything. great falls is still my
first choice (well, helena is actually but the pay scale there is lower) but
im going into this with an open mind. if both of us arent happy, neither
will be.
> And check these out:
>
> http://www.nmsu.edu/~geology/amato/images/organ1.jpg
>
> http://www.organmountainphotos.com/
>
> http://www.hec.utah.edu/~gazz/mesilla/organ2.jpg
awesome links! thanks lon.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:udqcb.574021$uu5.94399@sccrnsc04...
> http://www.ci.el-paso.tx.us/ and http://www.elpaso.org/
>
> Last time I lived in El Paso was 1965
awesome......somehow i _knew_ youd be able to hook me up lon!
> No state, city, county taxes.
does that include sales tax?
> It is dry out there
good, im tired of choking on east coast humidity.
> As for offroading, prepare to cream your jeans. Just watch
> out for goatheads [nasty weeds that will puncture tire sidewalls]
> and sidewinders and gila monsters. The horny toads and
> tarantulas make good pets. And don't go into the old
> lava flows [called malpais] at night, the snakes think
> they are condo vacation resorts.
are kids able to play outside without fear of snakes/scorpions/tarantulas
and other monsters? are you able to ride off on an atv and camp under the
stars or do you need to make special provisions to keep from being biten or
eaten by anything?
> If you are a rock hound you will cream your jeans twice,
> once for the jeeping, the other for the rocks.
so there are rock crawling trails for jeeps and atv's? how are the atv
laws? can you ride on the roads?
> Not the same as Montana by any means, and not like Moab
> area with the big red sandstones either. The mountains
> around El Paso are obviously volcanic in nature, and none
> are climbable by humans. Once you see the Organ Mountains,
> you'll see what I mean.
i dont really care for rock crawling on foot. i do enjoy it by jeep/atv
though.
> I'd strongly recommend a flight out there to see if you
> and the missus can click with the locals. Rent a Jeep.
agreed. we're already making reservations. we're going to check out
several states first hand before we do anything. great falls is still my
first choice (well, helena is actually but the pay scale there is lower) but
im going into this with an open mind. if both of us arent happy, neither
will be.
> And check these out:
>
> http://www.nmsu.edu/~geology/amato/images/organ1.jpg
>
> http://www.organmountainphotos.com/
>
> http://www.hec.utah.edu/~gazz/mesilla/organ2.jpg
awesome links! thanks lon.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
09-24-2003, 09:50 PM
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"Lon Stowell" <Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net> wrote in message
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> El Paso is about as flat as a folded tent.
does that include the off road trails?
--
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news:2oqcb.568360$Ho3.104326@sccrnsc03...
> El Paso is about as flat as a folded tent.
does that include the off road trails?
--
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http://7SlotGrille.com