OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
07-29-2004, 07:01 PM
#61
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
Looks like it may make for a good RTI ramp.. Maybe we do like these cars
after all.
"PLB49" <plb49@aol.com> wrote in message
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> it is "different," for sure!
>
> Paul B.
>
> > I feel sorry for her imagine have having drive such a butt ugly
> >car: http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/2004/prius/
>
>
after all.
"PLB49" <plb49@aol.com> wrote in message
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> it is "different," for sure!
>
> Paul B.
>
> > I feel sorry for her imagine have having drive such a butt ugly
> >car: http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/2004/prius/
>
>
07-29-2004, 10:26 PM
#62
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
What are you talking about? I have 13 years and 178K miles on my factory
clutch, no problems yet. I expect to have rust-through before the clutch
goes.
B
In article <3a3f4978.0407281157.2f9085bc@posting.google.com >,
mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
--
Brian Heller
It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.
clutch, no problems yet. I expect to have rust-through before the clutch
goes.
B
In article <3a3f4978.0407281157.2f9085bc@posting.google.com >,
mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
--
Brian Heller
It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.
07-29-2004, 10:26 PM
#63
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
What are you talking about? I have 13 years and 178K miles on my factory
clutch, no problems yet. I expect to have rust-through before the clutch
goes.
B
In article <3a3f4978.0407281157.2f9085bc@posting.google.com >,
mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
--
Brian Heller
It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.
clutch, no problems yet. I expect to have rust-through before the clutch
goes.
B
In article <3a3f4978.0407281157.2f9085bc@posting.google.com >,
mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
--
Brian Heller
It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.
07-29-2004, 10:26 PM
#64
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
What are you talking about? I have 13 years and 178K miles on my factory
clutch, no problems yet. I expect to have rust-through before the clutch
goes.
B
In article <3a3f4978.0407281157.2f9085bc@posting.google.com >,
mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
--
Brian Heller
It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.
clutch, no problems yet. I expect to have rust-through before the clutch
goes.
B
In article <3a3f4978.0407281157.2f9085bc@posting.google.com >,
mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
--
Brian Heller
It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.
07-29-2004, 10:26 PM
#65
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
What are you talking about? I have 13 years and 178K miles on my factory
clutch, no problems yet. I expect to have rust-through before the clutch
goes.
B
In article <3a3f4978.0407281157.2f9085bc@posting.google.com >,
mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
--
Brian Heller
It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.
clutch, no problems yet. I expect to have rust-through before the clutch
goes.
B
In article <3a3f4978.0407281157.2f9085bc@posting.google.com >,
mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
--
Brian Heller
It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.
07-29-2004, 10:56 PM
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote in message news:<3a3f4978.0407281157.2f9085bc@posting.google. com>...
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
You have to be kidding? Unless your racing or inept at driving, there
is no reason a clutch should last less than 100K miles. Autos don't
typically cost 3k more than a standard anymore, however new clutches
are about 4-7 hundred to replace WITH LABOR, pertty damn cheap if you
ask me. Autos have more than their fair share of problems.
Buy a manual because you like having the control, or shifting is
"fun." Clutch replacement cost is a non-issue AFAIK. Autos are nice
too, but I prefer a manual tranny anyday.
-Jim
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
You have to be kidding? Unless your racing or inept at driving, there
is no reason a clutch should last less than 100K miles. Autos don't
typically cost 3k more than a standard anymore, however new clutches
are about 4-7 hundred to replace WITH LABOR, pertty damn cheap if you
ask me. Autos have more than their fair share of problems.
Buy a manual because you like having the control, or shifting is
"fun." Clutch replacement cost is a non-issue AFAIK. Autos are nice
too, but I prefer a manual tranny anyday.
-Jim
07-29-2004, 10:56 PM
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote in message news:<3a3f4978.0407281157.2f9085bc@posting.google. com>...
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
You have to be kidding? Unless your racing or inept at driving, there
is no reason a clutch should last less than 100K miles. Autos don't
typically cost 3k more than a standard anymore, however new clutches
are about 4-7 hundred to replace WITH LABOR, pertty damn cheap if you
ask me. Autos have more than their fair share of problems.
Buy a manual because you like having the control, or shifting is
"fun." Clutch replacement cost is a non-issue AFAIK. Autos are nice
too, but I prefer a manual tranny anyday.
-Jim
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
You have to be kidding? Unless your racing or inept at driving, there
is no reason a clutch should last less than 100K miles. Autos don't
typically cost 3k more than a standard anymore, however new clutches
are about 4-7 hundred to replace WITH LABOR, pertty damn cheap if you
ask me. Autos have more than their fair share of problems.
Buy a manual because you like having the control, or shifting is
"fun." Clutch replacement cost is a non-issue AFAIK. Autos are nice
too, but I prefer a manual tranny anyday.
-Jim
07-29-2004, 10:56 PM
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote in message news:<3a3f4978.0407281157.2f9085bc@posting.google. com>...
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
You have to be kidding? Unless your racing or inept at driving, there
is no reason a clutch should last less than 100K miles. Autos don't
typically cost 3k more than a standard anymore, however new clutches
are about 4-7 hundred to replace WITH LABOR, pertty damn cheap if you
ask me. Autos have more than their fair share of problems.
Buy a manual because you like having the control, or shifting is
"fun." Clutch replacement cost is a non-issue AFAIK. Autos are nice
too, but I prefer a manual tranny anyday.
-Jim
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
You have to be kidding? Unless your racing or inept at driving, there
is no reason a clutch should last less than 100K miles. Autos don't
typically cost 3k more than a standard anymore, however new clutches
are about 4-7 hundred to replace WITH LABOR, pertty damn cheap if you
ask me. Autos have more than their fair share of problems.
Buy a manual because you like having the control, or shifting is
"fun." Clutch replacement cost is a non-issue AFAIK. Autos are nice
too, but I prefer a manual tranny anyday.
-Jim
07-29-2004, 10:56 PM
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote in message news:<3a3f4978.0407281157.2f9085bc@posting.google. com>...
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
You have to be kidding? Unless your racing or inept at driving, there
is no reason a clutch should last less than 100K miles. Autos don't
typically cost 3k more than a standard anymore, however new clutches
are about 4-7 hundred to replace WITH LABOR, pertty damn cheap if you
ask me. Autos have more than their fair share of problems.
Buy a manual because you like having the control, or shifting is
"fun." Clutch replacement cost is a non-issue AFAIK. Autos are nice
too, but I prefer a manual tranny anyday.
-Jim
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
You have to be kidding? Unless your racing or inept at driving, there
is no reason a clutch should last less than 100K miles. Autos don't
typically cost 3k more than a standard anymore, however new clutches
are about 4-7 hundred to replace WITH LABOR, pertty damn cheap if you
ask me. Autos have more than their fair share of problems.
Buy a manual because you like having the control, or shifting is
"fun." Clutch replacement cost is a non-issue AFAIK. Autos are nice
too, but I prefer a manual tranny anyday.
-Jim
07-29-2004, 11:28 PM
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
OK, so how much do the replacment batteries cost? In my experience batteries
go bad. And that cost has to be factored in to the overall cost of the vehicle.
Personally I like to keep my cars till their 200K miles old.
Dean
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:12:55 -0400, "wkearney99" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>The Prius batteries are warranted for 8 years or 100k miles. Or TEN years in NY,
>CA and MA. The batteries weigh 45 kilograms, not a thousand pounds.
>
>Quite a bit better than the average raggedy-*** Ford.
>
>
>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>news:4107D535.73CB4910@***.net...
>> Your Tercel didn't have to drag along a deceleration generator, and
>> drive train for the electric motor to shift in and out, while running a
>> gasoline engine, or a thousand pounds of batteries for it all to work.
>> My full sized Thunderbird gets 31 MPG, if I have to drive in traffic
>> that doesn't exceed fifty miles and hours.
go bad. And that cost has to be factored in to the overall cost of the vehicle.
Personally I like to keep my cars till their 200K miles old.
Dean
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:12:55 -0400, "wkearney99" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>The Prius batteries are warranted for 8 years or 100k miles. Or TEN years in NY,
>CA and MA. The batteries weigh 45 kilograms, not a thousand pounds.
>
>Quite a bit better than the average raggedy-*** Ford.
>
>
>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>news:4107D535.73CB4910@***.net...
>> Your Tercel didn't have to drag along a deceleration generator, and
>> drive train for the electric motor to shift in and out, while running a
>> gasoline engine, or a thousand pounds of batteries for it all to work.
>> My full sized Thunderbird gets 31 MPG, if I have to drive in traffic
>> that doesn't exceed fifty miles and hours.
