John Davies

I tried to talk her out of it, but she is _rabidly_ anti gas-guzzler.
She paid full MSRP plus $4000 additional dealer markup and got a
crappy trade-in allowance for her Subie Legacy. She got 50 mpg on her
road trip to visit me over the weekend. I figure she will have to
drive that car 5 years at 15K miles per year to break even with the
cost of additional gas for a 20 mpg real vehicle.

It is a truly strange car to drive.

Sorry for the OT post - I was just trying to figure this situation
out.... not there yet.


John

John Davies TLCA 14732
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi John,
Teach your Sister how to divid the number of miles driven by the
number of gallons it takes to refill the tank, and that one trip doesn't
establish and average. Next time she give you a number more than 35 MPG,
call her a liar:
http://madbard.walkingwizard.com/tdb...es/000317.html
http://www.hybridcars.com/news/hybri...-up-short.html
http://www.smartcarfinder.com/Story....ory=Car+Buying
http://www.cforum.net/forums/archive..._up_short.html
http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,63413,00.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

John Davies wrote:
>
> I tried to talk her out of it, but she is _rabidly_ anti gas-guzzler.
> She paid full MSRP plus $4000 additional dealer markup and got a
> crappy trade-in allowance for her Subie Legacy. She got 50 mpg on her
> road trip to visit me over the weekend. I figure she will have to
> drive that car 5 years at 15K miles per year to break even with the
> cost of additional gas for a 20 mpg real vehicle.
>
> It is a truly strange car to drive.
>
> Sorry for the OT post - I was just trying to figure this situation
> out.... not there yet.
>
> John
>
> John Davies TLCA 14732
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi John,
Teach your Sister how to divid the number of miles driven by the
number of gallons it takes to refill the tank, and that one trip doesn't
establish and average. Next time she give you a number more than 35 MPG,
call her a liar:
http://madbard.walkingwizard.com/tdb...es/000317.html
http://www.hybridcars.com/news/hybri...-up-short.html
http://www.smartcarfinder.com/Story....ory=Car+Buying
http://www.cforum.net/forums/archive..._up_short.html
http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,63413,00.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

John Davies wrote:
>
> I tried to talk her out of it, but she is _rabidly_ anti gas-guzzler.
> She paid full MSRP plus $4000 additional dealer markup and got a
> crappy trade-in allowance for her Subie Legacy. She got 50 mpg on her
> road trip to visit me over the weekend. I figure she will have to
> drive that car 5 years at 15K miles per year to break even with the
> cost of additional gas for a 20 mpg real vehicle.
>
> It is a truly strange car to drive.
>
> Sorry for the OT post - I was just trying to figure this situation
> out.... not there yet.
>
> John
>
> John Davies TLCA 14732
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi John,
Teach your Sister how to divid the number of miles driven by the
number of gallons it takes to refill the tank, and that one trip doesn't
establish and average. Next time she give you a number more than 35 MPG,
call her a liar:
http://madbard.walkingwizard.com/tdb...es/000317.html
http://www.hybridcars.com/news/hybri...-up-short.html
http://www.smartcarfinder.com/Story....ory=Car+Buying
http://www.cforum.net/forums/archive..._up_short.html
http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,63413,00.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

John Davies wrote:
>
> I tried to talk her out of it, but she is _rabidly_ anti gas-guzzler.
> She paid full MSRP plus $4000 additional dealer markup and got a
> crappy trade-in allowance for her Subie Legacy. She got 50 mpg on her
> road trip to visit me over the weekend. I figure she will have to
> drive that car 5 years at 15K miles per year to break even with the
> cost of additional gas for a 20 mpg real vehicle.
>
> It is a truly strange car to drive.
>
> Sorry for the OT post - I was just trying to figure this situation
> out.... not there yet.
>
> John
>
> John Davies TLCA 14732
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi John,
Teach your Sister how to divid the number of miles driven by the
number of gallons it takes to refill the tank, and that one trip doesn't
establish and average. Next time she give you a number more than 35 MPG,
call her a liar:
http://madbard.walkingwizard.com/tdb...es/000317.html
http://www.hybridcars.com/news/hybri...-up-short.html
http://www.smartcarfinder.com/Story....ory=Car+Buying
http://www.cforum.net/forums/archive..._up_short.html
http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,63413,00.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

John Davies wrote:
>
> I tried to talk her out of it, but she is _rabidly_ anti gas-guzzler.
> She paid full MSRP plus $4000 additional dealer markup and got a
> crappy trade-in allowance for her Subie Legacy. She got 50 mpg on her
> road trip to visit me over the weekend. I figure she will have to
> drive that car 5 years at 15K miles per year to break even with the
> cost of additional gas for a 20 mpg real vehicle.
>
> It is a truly strange car to drive.
>
> Sorry for the OT post - I was just trying to figure this situation
> out.... not there yet.
>
> John
>
> John Davies TLCA 14732
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA

Generic

> I tried to talk her out of it, but she is _rabidly_ anti gas-guzzler.
> She paid full MSRP plus $4000 additional dealer markup and got a
> crappy trade-in allowance for her Subie Legacy. She got 50 mpg on her
> road trip to visit me over the weekend. I figure she will have to
> drive that car 5 years at 15K miles per year to break even with the
> cost of additional gas for a 20 mpg real vehicle.
>
> It is a truly strange car to drive.
>
> Sorry for the OT post - I was just trying to figure this situation
> out.... not there yet.

Isn't there a $2,000 or $3,000 federal tax credit for buying a hybrid?
Makes the break even point a lot lower.

I rode in a Honda Civic hybrid and would NEVER have guessed without the
owner droning on about it for the whole trip. Plenty of power and an
effective A/C. He said he could drive 450 miles between fill-ups or
something, and that alone made it worth it.

Semi-on-topic: Ford will be selling a hybrid Escape SUV soon, and
apparently it is sold out now. Gonna be a great off-roader, better than any
Jeep! ;-)

-John

Generic

> I tried to talk her out of it, but she is _rabidly_ anti gas-guzzler.
> She paid full MSRP plus $4000 additional dealer markup and got a
> crappy trade-in allowance for her Subie Legacy. She got 50 mpg on her
> road trip to visit me over the weekend. I figure she will have to
> drive that car 5 years at 15K miles per year to break even with the
> cost of additional gas for a 20 mpg real vehicle.
>
> It is a truly strange car to drive.
>
> Sorry for the OT post - I was just trying to figure this situation
> out.... not there yet.

Isn't there a $2,000 or $3,000 federal tax credit for buying a hybrid?
Makes the break even point a lot lower.

I rode in a Honda Civic hybrid and would NEVER have guessed without the
owner droning on about it for the whole trip. Plenty of power and an
effective A/C. He said he could drive 450 miles between fill-ups or
something, and that alone made it worth it.

Semi-on-topic: Ford will be selling a hybrid Escape SUV soon, and
apparently it is sold out now. Gonna be a great off-roader, better than any
Jeep! ;-)

-John

Generic

> I tried to talk her out of it, but she is _rabidly_ anti gas-guzzler.
> She paid full MSRP plus $4000 additional dealer markup and got a
> crappy trade-in allowance for her Subie Legacy. She got 50 mpg on her
> road trip to visit me over the weekend. I figure she will have to
> drive that car 5 years at 15K miles per year to break even with the
> cost of additional gas for a 20 mpg real vehicle.
>
> It is a truly strange car to drive.
>
> Sorry for the OT post - I was just trying to figure this situation
> out.... not there yet.

Isn't there a $2,000 or $3,000 federal tax credit for buying a hybrid?
Makes the break even point a lot lower.

I rode in a Honda Civic hybrid and would NEVER have guessed without the
owner droning on about it for the whole trip. Plenty of power and an
effective A/C. He said he could drive 450 miles between fill-ups or
something, and that alone made it worth it.

Semi-on-topic: Ford will be selling a hybrid Escape SUV soon, and
apparently it is sold out now. Gonna be a great off-roader, better than any
Jeep! ;-)

-John

Generic

> I tried to talk her out of it, but she is _rabidly_ anti gas-guzzler.
> She paid full MSRP plus $4000 additional dealer markup and got a
> crappy trade-in allowance for her Subie Legacy. She got 50 mpg on her
> road trip to visit me over the weekend. I figure she will have to
> drive that car 5 years at 15K miles per year to break even with the
> cost of additional gas for a 20 mpg real vehicle.
>
> It is a truly strange car to drive.
>
> Sorry for the OT post - I was just trying to figure this situation
> out.... not there yet.

Isn't there a $2,000 or $3,000 federal tax credit for buying a hybrid?
Makes the break even point a lot lower.

I rode in a Honda Civic hybrid and would NEVER have guessed without the
owner droning on about it for the whole trip. Plenty of power and an
effective A/C. He said he could drive 450 miles between fill-ups or
something, and that alone made it worth it.

Semi-on-topic: Ford will be selling a hybrid Escape SUV soon, and
apparently it is sold out now. Gonna be a great off-roader, better than any
Jeep! ;-)

-John

marvin martian

better than any jeep my ***. big deal bout 450 miles to the tank my
2002 cavalier did damn near that, til i traded it even up for 2000 tj
sport (that was of course when i finally had the operation to have my
head removed from ***)