Have I been seeing new BMWs that are watercooled and have a V motor as
opposed to the air cooled flat motors?

Well, my heart is really looking for a touring bike, a la Goldwing. But my
heart is thinking Mrs. CRWLR will enjoy riding on the back. She seems to be
opposed to helmet hair for some reason, and it doesn't seem ot occur to her
that she can bring her brush.

I want to take rides in the country, but I really want to ride to work and
avoid increasingly heavy traffic on our freeways here in So. Calif., so my
tastes are running from the cruiser class to the touring class, price being
an important consideration. Of course, the bitterness of low quality lasts
long after the sweetness of low price is gone.




"KJ" <here@there.net> wrote in message
news:N172c.194387$Po1.68614@twister.tampabay.rr.co m...
> yes, i was taking your questions on mileage in reference to purchase a BMW
> motorcycle, pending the justification and approval.
>
> the boxers are the BMW engines that are two-cylinder, horizontally
opposed.
> aka 'boxer' from the horizontal, 180-degree, configuration.
>
> as for a BMW motorcycle, i love mine. but it depends on your riding
style.
>
> what kind of riding would you do? what's important to you?
>
> things i like about BMW motorad (more terminology!), in no particular
order:
> style, heft, HEATED HANDGRIPS!!!, ERGONOMICS!!!, ADJUSTABILITY OF
CONTROLS,
> power, aerospace-like engineering, paralever handling, QUIET! (eh?),
> deceptively quick, RELIABILITY, ease of maintenance (esp. boxers), easier
to
> wash (less chrome crap), etc....
>
> downsides: parts aren't cheap (when needed), repair shops less common (is
> this really a bad thing? hrmmm...), labor costs!! (i do all my own
> maintenance), shaft-drive service at about 100,000 miles is expensive
(what
> other make is a 100,000 mile service even done?), doesn't look as 'cool'
> with a 300lb. shirtless man and a, unfortunately, scantily clad heffer
> cruzing down main street after trailering to the rally only 100 miles
away.
>
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:104ht586aa042d7@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "KJ" <here@there.net> wrote in message
> > news:x1U1c.178264$B81.1981049@twister.tampabay.rr. com...
> > > BMW 101 for Bill:
> > >
> > > Bimmer = motorcycle
> > > Beemer=automobile
> > >
> >
> > I wasn't aware of that distinction. I thought Beemer was what people
that
> > didn't know better said, and Bimmer is what BMW drivers drive.
> >
> >
> >
> > > the K1200RS is a motorcycle, in reference to the OP's questions.
> > > a 740i is a car....totally irrelevant for this discussion.
> > >
> > > most boxer BIMMERS should get between 45-55 mpg, but as stated
earlier,
> > the
> > > "flying brick" K series bikes are trading that mileage for power; now
> > > 130bhp, and 0-60 in 3.2 stock.
> > >
> >
> > "Boxer"? What's that?
> >
> > And, to set the record straight, my reference to my BMW was my car. I
have
> a
> > 3 Series that churns out about 25 mpg on average. Sorry I confused you
or
> > anybody else. I could be interested in a BMW motorcycle, so your
comments
> > are appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:40480A0C.CD73CD59@***.net...
> > > > My Brother owns a 740i V12 Bimmer. Your mileage of course will
> > > > vary: http://www.autobytel.com/content/res...detail/BMW.htm
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > KJ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > and your lack of trust is based on what exactly? more folklore
> bill?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Have I been seeing new BMWs that are watercooled and have a V motor as
opposed to the air cooled flat motors?

Well, my heart is really looking for a touring bike, a la Goldwing. But my
heart is thinking Mrs. CRWLR will enjoy riding on the back. She seems to be
opposed to helmet hair for some reason, and it doesn't seem ot occur to her
that she can bring her brush.

I want to take rides in the country, but I really want to ride to work and
avoid increasingly heavy traffic on our freeways here in So. Calif., so my
tastes are running from the cruiser class to the touring class, price being
an important consideration. Of course, the bitterness of low quality lasts
long after the sweetness of low price is gone.




"KJ" <here@there.net> wrote in message
news:N172c.194387$Po1.68614@twister.tampabay.rr.co m...
> yes, i was taking your questions on mileage in reference to purchase a BMW
> motorcycle, pending the justification and approval.
>
> the boxers are the BMW engines that are two-cylinder, horizontally
opposed.
> aka 'boxer' from the horizontal, 180-degree, configuration.
>
> as for a BMW motorcycle, i love mine. but it depends on your riding
style.
>
> what kind of riding would you do? what's important to you?
>
> things i like about BMW motorad (more terminology!), in no particular
order:
> style, heft, HEATED HANDGRIPS!!!, ERGONOMICS!!!, ADJUSTABILITY OF
CONTROLS,
> power, aerospace-like engineering, paralever handling, QUIET! (eh?),
> deceptively quick, RELIABILITY, ease of maintenance (esp. boxers), easier
to
> wash (less chrome crap), etc....
>
> downsides: parts aren't cheap (when needed), repair shops less common (is
> this really a bad thing? hrmmm...), labor costs!! (i do all my own
> maintenance), shaft-drive service at about 100,000 miles is expensive
(what
> other make is a 100,000 mile service even done?), doesn't look as 'cool'
> with a 300lb. shirtless man and a, unfortunately, scantily clad heffer
> cruzing down main street after trailering to the rally only 100 miles
away.
>
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:104ht586aa042d7@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "KJ" <here@there.net> wrote in message
> > news:x1U1c.178264$B81.1981049@twister.tampabay.rr. com...
> > > BMW 101 for Bill:
> > >
> > > Bimmer = motorcycle
> > > Beemer=automobile
> > >
> >
> > I wasn't aware of that distinction. I thought Beemer was what people
that
> > didn't know better said, and Bimmer is what BMW drivers drive.
> >
> >
> >
> > > the K1200RS is a motorcycle, in reference to the OP's questions.
> > > a 740i is a car....totally irrelevant for this discussion.
> > >
> > > most boxer BIMMERS should get between 45-55 mpg, but as stated
earlier,
> > the
> > > "flying brick" K series bikes are trading that mileage for power; now
> > > 130bhp, and 0-60 in 3.2 stock.
> > >
> >
> > "Boxer"? What's that?
> >
> > And, to set the record straight, my reference to my BMW was my car. I
have
> a
> > 3 Series that churns out about 25 mpg on average. Sorry I confused you
or
> > anybody else. I could be interested in a BMW motorcycle, so your
comments
> > are appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:40480A0C.CD73CD59@***.net...
> > > > My Brother owns a 740i V12 Bimmer. Your mileage of course will
> > > > vary: http://www.autobytel.com/content/res...detail/BMW.htm
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > KJ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > and your lack of trust is based on what exactly? more folklore
> bill?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Or the pancake motor is just plain like a box.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Boxer...opposing cylinders as compared to a V or inline motor
> configuration. Got it's name from the pistons moving like a boxer
> punches. The Porsche 911 has a boxer motor and the name Boxter was a
> derivative of 'boxer' and 'roadster'.

 

Or the pancake motor is just plain like a box.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Boxer...opposing cylinders as compared to a V or inline motor
> configuration. Got it's name from the pistons moving like a boxer
> punches. The Porsche 911 has a boxer motor and the name Boxter was a
> derivative of 'boxer' and 'roadster'.

 

Or the pancake motor is just plain like a box.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Boxer...opposing cylinders as compared to a V or inline motor
> configuration. Got it's name from the pistons moving like a boxer
> punches. The Porsche 911 has a boxer motor and the name Boxter was a
> derivative of 'boxer' and 'roadster'.

 

A stock sportster gets 50 mpg at 60 hp

--
HarryS
JAFGBR
JAFTJO
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:104hi4mcdkgcaeb@corp.supernews.com...
> Where is that number relative to a stock bike with the same motor? I am
> mostly interested in stock numbers, then if I get a modified bike, then
the
> assumption I make is that the numbers will be better, or at least
> justifiably different.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> "HarryS" <harry-s@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:_6idnaG-F9OCTNrdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> > I have been riding for over 30 years (Harleys) all sporsters and my 03
> gets
> > 45 mpg stage II performance mod at 70 hp.
> >
> > --
> > HarryS
> > JAFGBR
> > JAFTJO
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:104fe5edfh17e5a@corp.supernews.com...
> > > My commute is such that I could do it in half the time on a bike, but
I
> > need
> > > more to get Mrs. CRWLR onboard. She is not liking the idea very much.
> > >
> > > I want to sell her on the idea that I will save enough on gas for the
> BMW
> > to
> > > finance the payment on the bike. I am talking about a Real Bike here,
> not
> > > any sissy scooter. I have my eye on a big-bore, but have not settled
on
> a
> > > particular make or model. I pretended for a long time that I would
want
> a
> > > Goldwing or equivelent, but that plan supposes that Mrs. CRWLR would
be
> a
> > > willing passenger. It seems that she won't even go into the garage if
> the
> > > bike is out there, let alone slide it between her knees. I have now
> > > broadened my horizons to include the cruiser class (Harley and clones)
> as
> > > well as the touring class (Goldwing and clones). I have no interest in
> the
> > > crotch rockets.
> > >
> > > My off topic question is, what sort of mileage do you guys with the
> Harley
> > > type and the Goldwing type bikes get? I am hoping the number is in the
> 35+
> > > mpg range, but my BMW delivers 25 mpg, so I need a pretty high
> > differential
> > > in bike mileage vs. car mileage to make my sales pitch work.
> > >
> >
> >
>

 

A stock sportster gets 50 mpg at 60 hp

--
HarryS
JAFGBR
JAFTJO
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:104hi4mcdkgcaeb@corp.supernews.com...
> Where is that number relative to a stock bike with the same motor? I am
> mostly interested in stock numbers, then if I get a modified bike, then
the
> assumption I make is that the numbers will be better, or at least
> justifiably different.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> "HarryS" <harry-s@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:_6idnaG-F9OCTNrdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> > I have been riding for over 30 years (Harleys) all sporsters and my 03
> gets
> > 45 mpg stage II performance mod at 70 hp.
> >
> > --
> > HarryS
> > JAFGBR
> > JAFTJO
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:104fe5edfh17e5a@corp.supernews.com...
> > > My commute is such that I could do it in half the time on a bike, but
I
> > need
> > > more to get Mrs. CRWLR onboard. She is not liking the idea very much.
> > >
> > > I want to sell her on the idea that I will save enough on gas for the
> BMW
> > to
> > > finance the payment on the bike. I am talking about a Real Bike here,
> not
> > > any sissy scooter. I have my eye on a big-bore, but have not settled
on
> a
> > > particular make or model. I pretended for a long time that I would
want
> a
> > > Goldwing or equivelent, but that plan supposes that Mrs. CRWLR would
be
> a
> > > willing passenger. It seems that she won't even go into the garage if
> the
> > > bike is out there, let alone slide it between her knees. I have now
> > > broadened my horizons to include the cruiser class (Harley and clones)
> as
> > > well as the touring class (Goldwing and clones). I have no interest in
> the
> > > crotch rockets.
> > >
> > > My off topic question is, what sort of mileage do you guys with the
> Harley
> > > type and the Goldwing type bikes get? I am hoping the number is in the
> 35+
> > > mpg range, but my BMW delivers 25 mpg, so I need a pretty high
> > differential
> > > in bike mileage vs. car mileage to make my sales pitch work.
> > >
> >
> >
>

 

A stock sportster gets 50 mpg at 60 hp

--
HarryS
JAFGBR
JAFTJO
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:104hi4mcdkgcaeb@corp.supernews.com...
> Where is that number relative to a stock bike with the same motor? I am
> mostly interested in stock numbers, then if I get a modified bike, then
the
> assumption I make is that the numbers will be better, or at least
> justifiably different.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> "HarryS" <harry-s@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:_6idnaG-F9OCTNrdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> > I have been riding for over 30 years (Harleys) all sporsters and my 03
> gets
> > 45 mpg stage II performance mod at 70 hp.
> >
> > --
> > HarryS
> > JAFGBR
> > JAFTJO
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:104fe5edfh17e5a@corp.supernews.com...
> > > My commute is such that I could do it in half the time on a bike, but
I
> > need
> > > more to get Mrs. CRWLR onboard. She is not liking the idea very much.
> > >
> > > I want to sell her on the idea that I will save enough on gas for the
> BMW
> > to
> > > finance the payment on the bike. I am talking about a Real Bike here,
> not
> > > any sissy scooter. I have my eye on a big-bore, but have not settled
on
> a
> > > particular make or model. I pretended for a long time that I would
want
> a
> > > Goldwing or equivelent, but that plan supposes that Mrs. CRWLR would
be
> a
> > > willing passenger. It seems that she won't even go into the garage if
> the
> > > bike is out there, let alone slide it between her knees. I have now
> > > broadened my horizons to include the cruiser class (Harley and clones)
> as
> > > well as the touring class (Goldwing and clones). I have no interest in
> the
> > > crotch rockets.
> > >
> > > My off topic question is, what sort of mileage do you guys with the
> Harley
> > > type and the Goldwing type bikes get? I am hoping the number is in the
> 35+
> > > mpg range, but my BMW delivers 25 mpg, so I need a pretty high
> > differential
> > > in bike mileage vs. car mileage to make my sales pitch work.
> > >
> >
> >
>

 

LOL, OK. All I can say is you must have a really light bike, and
don't know that a Harley sized bike we must have to zig before we can
zag. I bet you think you could have missed that Congressman.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

-jc wrote:
>
> Because I still have control of the motorcycle I can continue to maneuver
> and attempt to avoid the fridge. Had I been sliding on the ground with
> sparks flying, I would be unable to control my rate of deceleration and
> direction ... thanks for proving my point.
>
> --
> - Jeff
> - ........................ then again, what do I know.

 

LOL, OK. All I can say is you must have a really light bike, and
don't know that a Harley sized bike we must have to zig before we can
zag. I bet you think you could have missed that Congressman.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

-jc wrote:
>
> Because I still have control of the motorcycle I can continue to maneuver
> and attempt to avoid the fridge. Had I been sliding on the ground with
> sparks flying, I would be unable to control my rate of deceleration and
> direction ... thanks for proving my point.
>
> --
> - Jeff
> - ........................ then again, what do I know.