OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:09:27 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>We own my Jeep, my BMW, my motorhome, and my Wife's minivan. She is not able
>to drive the Jeep because she can't reach the pedals. She is not comfortable
>driving the motorhome because it is 30 feet long and 8+ feet wide. She does
>not like the BMW because it has a manual trans. I am pretty sure the bike
>will never see her on top. She wants to move out of the minivan and get a
>Z3. That's gonna be a shock to her system!
>
>Whipped! Not me, my friend. No sireee. My wife has me believing that all men
>are equal and women are better, but I am NOT whipped.
>
I stand corrected. But even if she doesn't want it make sure you
don't buy the really cool Solo seats. That'd be a snub. And if she's a
little XL like mine, buy a custom touring Two-Up seat instead of the
extra-chrome you really want. But who would want an automatic Z-3 ?
Hope you get your dream,
Andrew
>We own my Jeep, my BMW, my motorhome, and my Wife's minivan. She is not able
>to drive the Jeep because she can't reach the pedals. She is not comfortable
>driving the motorhome because it is 30 feet long and 8+ feet wide. She does
>not like the BMW because it has a manual trans. I am pretty sure the bike
>will never see her on top. She wants to move out of the minivan and get a
>Z3. That's gonna be a shock to her system!
>
>Whipped! Not me, my friend. No sireee. My wife has me believing that all men
>are equal and women are better, but I am NOT whipped.
>
I stand corrected. But even if she doesn't want it make sure you
don't buy the really cool Solo seats. That'd be a snub. And if she's a
little XL like mine, buy a custom touring Two-Up seat instead of the
extra-chrome you really want. But who would want an automatic Z-3 ?
Hope you get your dream,
Andrew
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:09:27 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>We own my Jeep, my BMW, my motorhome, and my Wife's minivan. She is not able
>to drive the Jeep because she can't reach the pedals. She is not comfortable
>driving the motorhome because it is 30 feet long and 8+ feet wide. She does
>not like the BMW because it has a manual trans. I am pretty sure the bike
>will never see her on top. She wants to move out of the minivan and get a
>Z3. That's gonna be a shock to her system!
>
>Whipped! Not me, my friend. No sireee. My wife has me believing that all men
>are equal and women are better, but I am NOT whipped.
>
I stand corrected. But even if she doesn't want it make sure you
don't buy the really cool Solo seats. That'd be a snub. And if she's a
little XL like mine, buy a custom touring Two-Up seat instead of the
extra-chrome you really want. But who would want an automatic Z-3 ?
Hope you get your dream,
Andrew
>We own my Jeep, my BMW, my motorhome, and my Wife's minivan. She is not able
>to drive the Jeep because she can't reach the pedals. She is not comfortable
>driving the motorhome because it is 30 feet long and 8+ feet wide. She does
>not like the BMW because it has a manual trans. I am pretty sure the bike
>will never see her on top. She wants to move out of the minivan and get a
>Z3. That's gonna be a shock to her system!
>
>Whipped! Not me, my friend. No sireee. My wife has me believing that all men
>are equal and women are better, but I am NOT whipped.
>
I stand corrected. But even if she doesn't want it make sure you
don't buy the really cool Solo seats. That'd be a snub. And if she's a
little XL like mine, buy a custom touring Two-Up seat instead of the
extra-chrome you really want. But who would want an automatic Z-3 ?
Hope you get your dream,
Andrew
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Hi Paul,
You know, I've never laid a motorcycle down on purpose, it usually
happens pretty fast, faster than you would think once you've lost some
of the gyro effect of the rear wheel and it instantly comes around. Then
it's choosing which way I may survive the accident, once it going down
the last thing I want to do is to be catapulted over the bike as
explained in the author's term high side:
http://www.myautoworld.com/Motorcycl...-highside.html
I hope this some day saves your rear end, as it has mine.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Think about it, Mike. One front wheel carrying 95% of the weight of a bike
> and rider, under full braking (not a skid) will still provide more traction
> than two wheels in a skid. In a skid the tire actually floats on molten
> rubber, your "grease".
> The tire provides the same amount of surface area contact with the pavement,
> no matter what direction it is pointed in, but can only skid if traveling
> sideways. The physics doesn't work.
> In a situation like you describe, if I had time to react properly ( other
> than saying some magic words) It would be best to brake as hard as possible
> as long as possible to lose speed, then stand up before impact to try to go
> over the car instead into/under the door.
> Nowhere in any motorcycle school, operating manual, or instructional manual
> does it recommend "laying down" a bike.
> Telling a new rider that it is desirable to crash on purpose could get them
> killed.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
You know, I've never laid a motorcycle down on purpose, it usually
happens pretty fast, faster than you would think once you've lost some
of the gyro effect of the rear wheel and it instantly comes around. Then
it's choosing which way I may survive the accident, once it going down
the last thing I want to do is to be catapulted over the bike as
explained in the author's term high side:
http://www.myautoworld.com/Motorcycl...-highside.html
I hope this some day saves your rear end, as it has mine.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Think about it, Mike. One front wheel carrying 95% of the weight of a bike
> and rider, under full braking (not a skid) will still provide more traction
> than two wheels in a skid. In a skid the tire actually floats on molten
> rubber, your "grease".
> The tire provides the same amount of surface area contact with the pavement,
> no matter what direction it is pointed in, but can only skid if traveling
> sideways. The physics doesn't work.
> In a situation like you describe, if I had time to react properly ( other
> than saying some magic words) It would be best to brake as hard as possible
> as long as possible to lose speed, then stand up before impact to try to go
> over the car instead into/under the door.
> Nowhere in any motorcycle school, operating manual, or instructional manual
> does it recommend "laying down" a bike.
> Telling a new rider that it is desirable to crash on purpose could get them
> killed.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
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Hi Paul,
You know, I've never laid a motorcycle down on purpose, it usually
happens pretty fast, faster than you would think once you've lost some
of the gyro effect of the rear wheel and it instantly comes around. Then
it's choosing which way I may survive the accident, once it going down
the last thing I want to do is to be catapulted over the bike as
explained in the author's term high side:
http://www.myautoworld.com/Motorcycl...-highside.html
I hope this some day saves your rear end, as it has mine.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Think about it, Mike. One front wheel carrying 95% of the weight of a bike
> and rider, under full braking (not a skid) will still provide more traction
> than two wheels in a skid. In a skid the tire actually floats on molten
> rubber, your "grease".
> The tire provides the same amount of surface area contact with the pavement,
> no matter what direction it is pointed in, but can only skid if traveling
> sideways. The physics doesn't work.
> In a situation like you describe, if I had time to react properly ( other
> than saying some magic words) It would be best to brake as hard as possible
> as long as possible to lose speed, then stand up before impact to try to go
> over the car instead into/under the door.
> Nowhere in any motorcycle school, operating manual, or instructional manual
> does it recommend "laying down" a bike.
> Telling a new rider that it is desirable to crash on purpose could get them
> killed.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
You know, I've never laid a motorcycle down on purpose, it usually
happens pretty fast, faster than you would think once you've lost some
of the gyro effect of the rear wheel and it instantly comes around. Then
it's choosing which way I may survive the accident, once it going down
the last thing I want to do is to be catapulted over the bike as
explained in the author's term high side:
http://www.myautoworld.com/Motorcycl...-highside.html
I hope this some day saves your rear end, as it has mine.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Think about it, Mike. One front wheel carrying 95% of the weight of a bike
> and rider, under full braking (not a skid) will still provide more traction
> than two wheels in a skid. In a skid the tire actually floats on molten
> rubber, your "grease".
> The tire provides the same amount of surface area contact with the pavement,
> no matter what direction it is pointed in, but can only skid if traveling
> sideways. The physics doesn't work.
> In a situation like you describe, if I had time to react properly ( other
> than saying some magic words) It would be best to brake as hard as possible
> as long as possible to lose speed, then stand up before impact to try to go
> over the car instead into/under the door.
> Nowhere in any motorcycle school, operating manual, or instructional manual
> does it recommend "laying down" a bike.
> Telling a new rider that it is desirable to crash on purpose could get them
> killed.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
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Hi Paul,
You know, I've never laid a motorcycle down on purpose, it usually
happens pretty fast, faster than you would think once you've lost some
of the gyro effect of the rear wheel and it instantly comes around. Then
it's choosing which way I may survive the accident, once it going down
the last thing I want to do is to be catapulted over the bike as
explained in the author's term high side:
http://www.myautoworld.com/Motorcycl...-highside.html
I hope this some day saves your rear end, as it has mine.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Think about it, Mike. One front wheel carrying 95% of the weight of a bike
> and rider, under full braking (not a skid) will still provide more traction
> than two wheels in a skid. In a skid the tire actually floats on molten
> rubber, your "grease".
> The tire provides the same amount of surface area contact with the pavement,
> no matter what direction it is pointed in, but can only skid if traveling
> sideways. The physics doesn't work.
> In a situation like you describe, if I had time to react properly ( other
> than saying some magic words) It would be best to brake as hard as possible
> as long as possible to lose speed, then stand up before impact to try to go
> over the car instead into/under the door.
> Nowhere in any motorcycle school, operating manual, or instructional manual
> does it recommend "laying down" a bike.
> Telling a new rider that it is desirable to crash on purpose could get them
> killed.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
You know, I've never laid a motorcycle down on purpose, it usually
happens pretty fast, faster than you would think once you've lost some
of the gyro effect of the rear wheel and it instantly comes around. Then
it's choosing which way I may survive the accident, once it going down
the last thing I want to do is to be catapulted over the bike as
explained in the author's term high side:
http://www.myautoworld.com/Motorcycl...-highside.html
I hope this some day saves your rear end, as it has mine.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Think about it, Mike. One front wheel carrying 95% of the weight of a bike
> and rider, under full braking (not a skid) will still provide more traction
> than two wheels in a skid. In a skid the tire actually floats on molten
> rubber, your "grease".
> The tire provides the same amount of surface area contact with the pavement,
> no matter what direction it is pointed in, but can only skid if traveling
> sideways. The physics doesn't work.
> In a situation like you describe, if I had time to react properly ( other
> than saying some magic words) It would be best to brake as hard as possible
> as long as possible to lose speed, then stand up before impact to try to go
> over the car instead into/under the door.
> Nowhere in any motorcycle school, operating manual, or instructional manual
> does it recommend "laying down" a bike.
> Telling a new rider that it is desirable to crash on purpose could get them
> killed.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
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There are a few scenarios where sliding could be good, such as you are about
to hit a moose, cow, or semi-trailer broadside.
Unfortunalely, there is never time to think, only react.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
to hit a moose, cow, or semi-trailer broadside.
Unfortunalely, there is never time to think, only react.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
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There are a few scenarios where sliding could be good, such as you are about
to hit a moose, cow, or semi-trailer broadside.
Unfortunalely, there is never time to think, only react.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
to hit a moose, cow, or semi-trailer broadside.
Unfortunalely, there is never time to think, only react.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
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There are a few scenarios where sliding could be good, such as you are about
to hit a moose, cow, or semi-trailer broadside.
Unfortunalely, there is never time to think, only react.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
to hit a moose, cow, or semi-trailer broadside.
Unfortunalely, there is never time to think, only react.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
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CRWLR wrote:
>I'll need that course as a refresher, but I rode a Yamaha XS11 when they
>were new, so I have plenty of experience already.
>
>I am excited that your Glide gets such impressive numbers. I thought they
>would not be nearly that good. Can I assume that a Fat Boy or a Heritage
>gives similar numbers?
>
I would assume they would get the same mileage.Maybe even better since
they're lighter than my Glide.
I've been really tempted to go with a stage 1 kit and pipes but my
mechanic tells me that there is a definite drop in mileage.
Something to consider if you're thinking of upgrading later on.
Mike
98 TJ SE
02 FLHTCi
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CRWLR wrote:
>I'll need that course as a refresher, but I rode a Yamaha XS11 when they
>were new, so I have plenty of experience already.
>
>I am excited that your Glide gets such impressive numbers. I thought they
>would not be nearly that good. Can I assume that a Fat Boy or a Heritage
>gives similar numbers?
>
I would assume they would get the same mileage.Maybe even better since
they're lighter than my Glide.
I've been really tempted to go with a stage 1 kit and pipes but my
mechanic tells me that there is a definite drop in mileage.
Something to consider if you're thinking of upgrading later on.
Mike
98 TJ SE
02 FLHTCi


