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Matt Macchiarolo 05-31-2007 04:33 PM

Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem = SnoMan the lying Stalker!
 
I'll say again, Bloman, ALL of my pool lighting is 120V, professionally
installed, passed inspection and conforms with code.

No electrical code forbids full line voltage in wet areas or requires
low-voltage circuits in wet areas instead of line voltage. If it did, my
pool pumps would operate on 12 volts and require twenty times as much
current as they do now, which would be very dangerous. Code provides for the
wet areas by requiring GFCI's and conduit rated for wet areas.

Time to re-join the real world and leave this fantasy world you live in
where you are always right and anyone that disagrees with you is wrong.

Yes, you are now in my killfile, but you are so spectacularly wrong on your
assumption (that you present as fact) that code requires low-voltage wiring
for pools, I had to respond.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:465ed82f$0$10513$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> SnoMan wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 May 2007 20:30:45 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Listen you insane lying brain dead stalker twerp, 'his' light box is in
>>> a planter and the one I did is behind the 220 panel for the pool motors
>>> sitting right below the light box.

>>
>> Such a child, I do not carr where bulb is. There is a reason for code
>> and why there as codes for using lower voltages unless you get wannabe
>> smart guys like you that decides that code does not mean squat and
>> changes it. It is bad enough you do this to your own stuff but to do
>> it to others and tell others to do it to show a real desrepect for
>> safety codes.

>
> LIAR!
>
> The fiber optic light boxes have a full 120 volts going into them, there
> is 'no' building code that prohibits that at all. Yes, I 'do' know this
> for a fact, it is my job to know.
>
> Once again you have proven yourself a liar and a Stalking idiot just full
> of --------.
>
> And seeing as you 'do' want to play, how would you like me to do a
> collection of all your total -------- and life threatening advise and add
> 'that' to every one of your posts for ya.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)




Matt Macchiarolo 05-31-2007 04:33 PM

Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem = SnoMan the lying Stalker!
 
I'll say again, Bloman, ALL of my pool lighting is 120V, professionally
installed, passed inspection and conforms with code.

No electrical code forbids full line voltage in wet areas or requires
low-voltage circuits in wet areas instead of line voltage. If it did, my
pool pumps would operate on 12 volts and require twenty times as much
current as they do now, which would be very dangerous. Code provides for the
wet areas by requiring GFCI's and conduit rated for wet areas.

Time to re-join the real world and leave this fantasy world you live in
where you are always right and anyone that disagrees with you is wrong.

Yes, you are now in my killfile, but you are so spectacularly wrong on your
assumption (that you present as fact) that code requires low-voltage wiring
for pools, I had to respond.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:465ed82f$0$10513$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> SnoMan wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 May 2007 20:30:45 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Listen you insane lying brain dead stalker twerp, 'his' light box is in
>>> a planter and the one I did is behind the 220 panel for the pool motors
>>> sitting right below the light box.

>>
>> Such a child, I do not carr where bulb is. There is a reason for code
>> and why there as codes for using lower voltages unless you get wannabe
>> smart guys like you that decides that code does not mean squat and
>> changes it. It is bad enough you do this to your own stuff but to do
>> it to others and tell others to do it to show a real desrepect for
>> safety codes.

>
> LIAR!
>
> The fiber optic light boxes have a full 120 volts going into them, there
> is 'no' building code that prohibits that at all. Yes, I 'do' know this
> for a fact, it is my job to know.
>
> Once again you have proven yourself a liar and a Stalking idiot just full
> of --------.
>
> And seeing as you 'do' want to play, how would you like me to do a
> collection of all your total -------- and life threatening advise and add
> 'that' to every one of your posts for ya.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)




Matt Macchiarolo 05-31-2007 04:33 PM

Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem = SnoMan the lying Stalker!
 
I'll say again, Bloman, ALL of my pool lighting is 120V, professionally
installed, passed inspection and conforms with code.

No electrical code forbids full line voltage in wet areas or requires
low-voltage circuits in wet areas instead of line voltage. If it did, my
pool pumps would operate on 12 volts and require twenty times as much
current as they do now, which would be very dangerous. Code provides for the
wet areas by requiring GFCI's and conduit rated for wet areas.

Time to re-join the real world and leave this fantasy world you live in
where you are always right and anyone that disagrees with you is wrong.

Yes, you are now in my killfile, but you are so spectacularly wrong on your
assumption (that you present as fact) that code requires low-voltage wiring
for pools, I had to respond.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:465ed82f$0$10513$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> SnoMan wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 May 2007 20:30:45 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Listen you insane lying brain dead stalker twerp, 'his' light box is in
>>> a planter and the one I did is behind the 220 panel for the pool motors
>>> sitting right below the light box.

>>
>> Such a child, I do not carr where bulb is. There is a reason for code
>> and why there as codes for using lower voltages unless you get wannabe
>> smart guys like you that decides that code does not mean squat and
>> changes it. It is bad enough you do this to your own stuff but to do
>> it to others and tell others to do it to show a real desrepect for
>> safety codes.

>
> LIAR!
>
> The fiber optic light boxes have a full 120 volts going into them, there
> is 'no' building code that prohibits that at all. Yes, I 'do' know this
> for a fact, it is my job to know.
>
> Once again you have proven yourself a liar and a Stalking idiot just full
> of --------.
>
> And seeing as you 'do' want to play, how would you like me to do a
> collection of all your total -------- and life threatening advise and add
> 'that' to every one of your posts for ya.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)




Bruce L. Bergman 06-01-2007 01:29 PM

Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem = SnoMan the Stalker!
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 20:30:45 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Internet Stalkers are not cool these days as mentioned before or 'Why
>Lord can't I at least get a halfway intelligent stalker not some brain
>dead -------'????


Remember that old saw of "You can choose your friends, but you can't
choose your relatives?" Add Cyber-Stalkers to the second column.

And as a working Electrician, you are doing nothing wrong. Fiber-
optic illuminators are often chosen directly for the increased safety
benefits.

Now if you had one of the rigs with a 12V or 24V low-voltage lamp
*underwater* in the pool, and tried to convert it to line voltage
without changing to the proper fixture and wet-niche (and bonding, and
GFCI protection, and clearance from the pool edge to the 'deck box'
junction box, and height of deck box above waterline...) there would
be problems.

--<< Bruce >>--


Bruce L. Bergman 06-01-2007 01:29 PM

Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem = SnoMan the Stalker!
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 20:30:45 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Internet Stalkers are not cool these days as mentioned before or 'Why
>Lord can't I at least get a halfway intelligent stalker not some brain
>dead -------'????


Remember that old saw of "You can choose your friends, but you can't
choose your relatives?" Add Cyber-Stalkers to the second column.

And as a working Electrician, you are doing nothing wrong. Fiber-
optic illuminators are often chosen directly for the increased safety
benefits.

Now if you had one of the rigs with a 12V or 24V low-voltage lamp
*underwater* in the pool, and tried to convert it to line voltage
without changing to the proper fixture and wet-niche (and bonding, and
GFCI protection, and clearance from the pool edge to the 'deck box'
junction box, and height of deck box above waterline...) there would
be problems.

--<< Bruce >>--


Bruce L. Bergman 06-01-2007 01:29 PM

Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem = SnoMan the Stalker!
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 20:30:45 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Internet Stalkers are not cool these days as mentioned before or 'Why
>Lord can't I at least get a halfway intelligent stalker not some brain
>dead -------'????


Remember that old saw of "You can choose your friends, but you can't
choose your relatives?" Add Cyber-Stalkers to the second column.

And as a working Electrician, you are doing nothing wrong. Fiber-
optic illuminators are often chosen directly for the increased safety
benefits.

Now if you had one of the rigs with a 12V or 24V low-voltage lamp
*underwater* in the pool, and tried to convert it to line voltage
without changing to the proper fixture and wet-niche (and bonding, and
GFCI protection, and clearance from the pool edge to the 'deck box'
junction box, and height of deck box above waterline...) there would
be problems.

--<< Bruce >>--


Bruce L. Bergman 06-01-2007 01:29 PM

Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem = SnoMan the Stalker!
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 20:30:45 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Internet Stalkers are not cool these days as mentioned before or 'Why
>Lord can't I at least get a halfway intelligent stalker not some brain
>dead -------'????


Remember that old saw of "You can choose your friends, but you can't
choose your relatives?" Add Cyber-Stalkers to the second column.

And as a working Electrician, you are doing nothing wrong. Fiber-
optic illuminators are often chosen directly for the increased safety
benefits.

Now if you had one of the rigs with a 12V or 24V low-voltage lamp
*underwater* in the pool, and tried to convert it to line voltage
without changing to the proper fixture and wet-niche (and bonding, and
GFCI protection, and clearance from the pool edge to the 'deck box'
junction box, and height of deck box above waterline...) there would
be problems.

--<< Bruce >>--



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