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Re: Re: Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:h94s539oob0erh7gklqp25ph56sh759cle@4ax.com... > On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:23:29 GMT, "Jeff Strickland" > <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote: > >>Adding insult to stupidity, my meter told me that the lamp was very nearly >>a >>dead short -- as you said it should be -- and that the transformer I had >>wasn't putting out anything. Now that I bought a new transformer, I find >>that the lamp is toast and the old transformer is actually still good. I >>haven't figured out if the meter lied, or I asked the wrong questions -- >>it >>is loaded up with a ---- load of buttons and input taps, and it seems now >>that I may not have pressed the right buttons and filled the right taps. > > > Listen, first of all, you are not stupid just because you do not know > something, that is why you ask questions. Stupid is not even asking > the question. The part you missed is where I said, in another part of the thread, that I built the meter from a kit. If anybody knows how to use this particular meter, it should be me. Some multimeters can be a bit confusing but generallt > you use one set of lead connections for volt and ohms and another for > AMP if your meter supports that (those terminals have a shunt accross > them internally for current measurements) You always what to use 1K > range on ohm meter when checking light bulbs. Also transformers > generally rarely fail and when they do there is usually little doubt > because they will appear or smell burnt. Only a few things can kill a > transformer. The first is overloading it and it overheats and > insulation in winding break down and it shorts out internally. The > second is that a winding open up internall which is really rare in a > power transformer and the third it insulation break down from time and > heat which cause it to short internally. Properly sized for load a > power transfomer can live many many years. This one has lived for 11 years outside in the garden. It's mounted inside a box, but it is still a relativley hostile environment for this sort of stuff. There are bugs living in the box that the transformer lives in. The light uses 250W, which makes lots of heat -- a Suzy Home Maker Kitchen is safer to use -- so it needs large holes to draw air through. |
Re: Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:nr4s53tgdasg6khqorgm8lmh7926901rrj@4ax.com... > On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:21:06 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >>I also have worked on pools in various sizes since the 70's and have a >>good working knowledge of the power setups so swapping over to a line >>voltage light was easy. > > > Obviously you do not because the reason they use reduced voltage > lights around pools and outside is to reduce threat of shock. Only a > idiot would sugeest to upgrade a 24 volt pool light system to wall > voltage. It does kinda fall in line with other comments or ideas you > post in other areas so this is no surprise. Before you jump on him, there is 115v all around inside the box. The only 24v load is the light that I'm working on, everything else is 115v, so the conversion actually makes sense. I tried it, but the light was not strong enough to do the job. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:nr4s53tgdasg6khqorgm8lmh7926901rrj@4ax.com... > On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:21:06 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >>I also have worked on pools in various sizes since the 70's and have a >>good working knowledge of the power setups so swapping over to a line >>voltage light was easy. > > > Obviously you do not because the reason they use reduced voltage > lights around pools and outside is to reduce threat of shock. Only a > idiot would sugeest to upgrade a 24 volt pool light system to wall > voltage. It does kinda fall in line with other comments or ideas you > post in other areas so this is no surprise. Before you jump on him, there is 115v all around inside the box. The only 24v load is the light that I'm working on, everything else is 115v, so the conversion actually makes sense. I tried it, but the light was not strong enough to do the job. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:nr4s53tgdasg6khqorgm8lmh7926901rrj@4ax.com... > On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:21:06 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >>I also have worked on pools in various sizes since the 70's and have a >>good working knowledge of the power setups so swapping over to a line >>voltage light was easy. > > > Obviously you do not because the reason they use reduced voltage > lights around pools and outside is to reduce threat of shock. Only a > idiot would sugeest to upgrade a 24 volt pool light system to wall > voltage. It does kinda fall in line with other comments or ideas you > post in other areas so this is no surprise. Before you jump on him, there is 115v all around inside the box. The only 24v load is the light that I'm working on, everything else is 115v, so the conversion actually makes sense. I tried it, but the light was not strong enough to do the job. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:nr4s53tgdasg6khqorgm8lmh7926901rrj@4ax.com... > On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:21:06 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >>I also have worked on pools in various sizes since the 70's and have a >>good working knowledge of the power setups so swapping over to a line >>voltage light was easy. > > > Obviously you do not because the reason they use reduced voltage > lights around pools and outside is to reduce threat of shock. Only a > idiot would sugeest to upgrade a 24 volt pool light system to wall > voltage. It does kinda fall in line with other comments or ideas you > post in other areas so this is no surprise. Before you jump on him, there is 115v all around inside the box. The only 24v load is the light that I'm working on, everything else is 115v, so the conversion actually makes sense. I tried it, but the light was not strong enough to do the job. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com |
Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message > news:nr4s53tgdasg6khqorgm8lmh7926901rrj@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:21:06 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> >> wrote: >> >>> I also have worked on pools in various sizes since the 70's and have a >>> good working knowledge of the power setups so swapping over to a line >>> voltage light was easy. >> >> >> Obviously you do not because the reason they use reduced voltage >> lights around pools and outside is to reduce threat of shock. Only a >> idiot would sugeest to upgrade a 24 volt pool light system to wall >> voltage. It does kinda fall in line with other comments or ideas you >> post in other areas so this is no surprise. > > > Before you jump on him, there is 115v all around inside the box. The > only 24v load is the light that I'm working on, everything else is 115v, > so the conversion actually makes sense. > > I tried it, but the light was not strong enough to do the job. > > Jeff, this jerkoff only found this group by internet stalking me when I called him on his dangerous/life threatening -------- on other groups. He has serious mental issues as is obvious from some of his posts that Google has nicely stored. If he continues, well... I 'am' bored these days. <chuckle> Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message > news:nr4s53tgdasg6khqorgm8lmh7926901rrj@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:21:06 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> >> wrote: >> >>> I also have worked on pools in various sizes since the 70's and have a >>> good working knowledge of the power setups so swapping over to a line >>> voltage light was easy. >> >> >> Obviously you do not because the reason they use reduced voltage >> lights around pools and outside is to reduce threat of shock. Only a >> idiot would sugeest to upgrade a 24 volt pool light system to wall >> voltage. It does kinda fall in line with other comments or ideas you >> post in other areas so this is no surprise. > > > Before you jump on him, there is 115v all around inside the box. The > only 24v load is the light that I'm working on, everything else is 115v, > so the conversion actually makes sense. > > I tried it, but the light was not strong enough to do the job. > > Jeff, this jerkoff only found this group by internet stalking me when I called him on his dangerous/life threatening -------- on other groups. He has serious mental issues as is obvious from some of his posts that Google has nicely stored. If he continues, well... I 'am' bored these days. <chuckle> Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message > news:nr4s53tgdasg6khqorgm8lmh7926901rrj@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:21:06 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> >> wrote: >> >>> I also have worked on pools in various sizes since the 70's and have a >>> good working knowledge of the power setups so swapping over to a line >>> voltage light was easy. >> >> >> Obviously you do not because the reason they use reduced voltage >> lights around pools and outside is to reduce threat of shock. Only a >> idiot would sugeest to upgrade a 24 volt pool light system to wall >> voltage. It does kinda fall in line with other comments or ideas you >> post in other areas so this is no surprise. > > > Before you jump on him, there is 115v all around inside the box. The > only 24v load is the light that I'm working on, everything else is 115v, > so the conversion actually makes sense. > > I tried it, but the light was not strong enough to do the job. > > Jeff, this jerkoff only found this group by internet stalking me when I called him on his dangerous/life threatening -------- on other groups. He has serious mental issues as is obvious from some of his posts that Google has nicely stored. If he continues, well... I 'am' bored these days. <chuckle> Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message > news:nr4s53tgdasg6khqorgm8lmh7926901rrj@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:21:06 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> >> wrote: >> >>> I also have worked on pools in various sizes since the 70's and have a >>> good working knowledge of the power setups so swapping over to a line >>> voltage light was easy. >> >> >> Obviously you do not because the reason they use reduced voltage >> lights around pools and outside is to reduce threat of shock. Only a >> idiot would sugeest to upgrade a 24 volt pool light system to wall >> voltage. It does kinda fall in line with other comments or ideas you >> post in other areas so this is no surprise. > > > Before you jump on him, there is 115v all around inside the box. The > only 24v load is the light that I'm working on, everything else is 115v, > so the conversion actually makes sense. > > I tried it, but the light was not strong enough to do the job. > > Jeff, this jerkoff only found this group by internet stalking me when I called him on his dangerous/life threatening -------- on other groups. He has serious mental issues as is obvious from some of his posts that Google has nicely stored. If he continues, well... I 'am' bored these days. <chuckle> Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Re: Re: ((OT)) Electronics (electrical) Problem
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> This one has lived for 11 years outside in the garden. It's mounted > inside a box, but it is still a relativley hostile environment for > this sort of stuff. There are bugs living in the box that the > transformer lives in. The light uses 250W, which makes lots of heat I built an o-scope (Heathkit). :) It still works even though it's now been replaced by a Tektronix unit with a few more features. http://revbeergoggles.com/temp/o-scope.jpg Still remember adjusting the deflection voltage +50, -50 and noticing one of the FETs was a bent over a bit.. so like a dumbass I grabbed it to straighten it out and it straighten me out. Not like I was just measuring the damn thing. noooooooooooooooooooooo -- DougW |
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