OT - bloody liberals..
#51
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Re: OT - bloody liberals..
I haven't worked in eleven years, so that is not a major concern for me.
But if you put a turbo or a supercharger on the new Wrangler four cylinder
engine, then it would probably be adequate. I talked to one company that
had been working on a turbo kit for the 4 cylinder TJ, which they abandoned.
They claimed there wasn't enough demand, but things will have changed by the
time you get your next Jeep.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:k08Eg.3646$r61.2421@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Kind of did all that 20 years ago with my 2.2 litre Series 2A Land Rover
:-)
> I want a Jeep I can drive to work in.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44dfad3f$0$23713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > The four cylinder Wranglers are 2.5 liters, and the new model engine is
> one
> > of those overhead cam things. It might even be clean enough for Europe.
> I
> > have had the older overhead valve engine in my 1995 for twelve years,
and
> I
> > have no complaints. I would not recommend trying to drive it with four
> > adults in city traffic though.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> > news:BUjDg.2410$r61.93@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
> > > No, it doesn't mention 4x4s ; it is everything in band G (which is >
220
> g
> > > CO / km). The Wrangler is about 330. In practice it means everything
> with
> > an
> > > engine size of > ~ 2.5 litres which means all 4x4s. Fortunately for me
> in
> > > the short term, it only would apply to new cars so I get to keep the
> Waggy
> > > and the TJ (just better take really good care of them if the liberals
> get
> > in
> > > as I wouldn't be able to replace them with a new vehicle.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:44dca41a$0$23764$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > The article cited doesn't mention 4x4 vehicles. It says that the
> > proposed
> > > > tax targets luxury vehicles such as the BMW 7 Series and Bentley
> > > > Continentals, and would apply to new vehicles only. Surely, the
> > purchaser
> > > > of a Bentley Continental could afford to put an additional £2000
into
> > the
> > > > common pot?
> > > >
> > > > When I was in Spain they told me that people buy SUVs "so they can
see
> > > over
> > > > the traffic in the cities". That agrees with my experience there,
> > > although
> > > > there must be some who use them on farms and orchards, or who live
in
> > > areas
> > > > of heavy snowfall.
> > > >
> > > > A proponent of the bill denies that placing a hefty tax on new
> vehicles
> > > > would drive consumers to "retain dilapidated cars instead of
replacing
> > > > them". Retaining dilipated cars, and restoring them to running
> > condition,
> > > > is another way to help the environment and alleviate fuel shortages.
> It
> > > > takes a lot of raw materials and energy to manufacture a new car,
even
> > "a
> > > > car which is consistent with their environmental obligations".
> > > >
> > > > I like the idea of taxing airlines per flight, rather than per
> > passenger.
> > > > One time I was on a trans-Atlantic flight, and the two passengers
next
> > to
> > > me
> > > > didn't show up. I enjoyed their wine, and stretched out to sleep on
> > their
> > > > seats. I suppose I should have been made to pay their share of the
> fuel
> > > > tax.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:sUVCg.1865$r61.1570@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4992676.stm
> > > > >
> > > > > An opposition party is planning a road tax ( the price you pay
each
> > year
> > > > to
> > > > > be able to drive your car) of £2000 (or $3800) for 4x4s and other
> > higher
> > > > > emissions vehicles. We already pay petrol prices of just over $7
per
> > US
> > > > > gallon, and the current road tax is £190.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
But if you put a turbo or a supercharger on the new Wrangler four cylinder
engine, then it would probably be adequate. I talked to one company that
had been working on a turbo kit for the 4 cylinder TJ, which they abandoned.
They claimed there wasn't enough demand, but things will have changed by the
time you get your next Jeep.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:k08Eg.3646$r61.2421@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Kind of did all that 20 years ago with my 2.2 litre Series 2A Land Rover
:-)
> I want a Jeep I can drive to work in.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44dfad3f$0$23713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > The four cylinder Wranglers are 2.5 liters, and the new model engine is
> one
> > of those overhead cam things. It might even be clean enough for Europe.
> I
> > have had the older overhead valve engine in my 1995 for twelve years,
and
> I
> > have no complaints. I would not recommend trying to drive it with four
> > adults in city traffic though.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> > news:BUjDg.2410$r61.93@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
> > > No, it doesn't mention 4x4s ; it is everything in band G (which is >
220
> g
> > > CO / km). The Wrangler is about 330. In practice it means everything
> with
> > an
> > > engine size of > ~ 2.5 litres which means all 4x4s. Fortunately for me
> in
> > > the short term, it only would apply to new cars so I get to keep the
> Waggy
> > > and the TJ (just better take really good care of them if the liberals
> get
> > in
> > > as I wouldn't be able to replace them with a new vehicle.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:44dca41a$0$23764$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > The article cited doesn't mention 4x4 vehicles. It says that the
> > proposed
> > > > tax targets luxury vehicles such as the BMW 7 Series and Bentley
> > > > Continentals, and would apply to new vehicles only. Surely, the
> > purchaser
> > > > of a Bentley Continental could afford to put an additional £2000
into
> > the
> > > > common pot?
> > > >
> > > > When I was in Spain they told me that people buy SUVs "so they can
see
> > > over
> > > > the traffic in the cities". That agrees with my experience there,
> > > although
> > > > there must be some who use them on farms and orchards, or who live
in
> > > areas
> > > > of heavy snowfall.
> > > >
> > > > A proponent of the bill denies that placing a hefty tax on new
> vehicles
> > > > would drive consumers to "retain dilapidated cars instead of
replacing
> > > > them". Retaining dilipated cars, and restoring them to running
> > condition,
> > > > is another way to help the environment and alleviate fuel shortages.
> It
> > > > takes a lot of raw materials and energy to manufacture a new car,
even
> > "a
> > > > car which is consistent with their environmental obligations".
> > > >
> > > > I like the idea of taxing airlines per flight, rather than per
> > passenger.
> > > > One time I was on a trans-Atlantic flight, and the two passengers
next
> > to
> > > me
> > > > didn't show up. I enjoyed their wine, and stretched out to sleep on
> > their
> > > > seats. I suppose I should have been made to pay their share of the
> fuel
> > > > tax.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:sUVCg.1865$r61.1570@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4992676.stm
> > > > >
> > > > > An opposition party is planning a road tax ( the price you pay
each
> > year
> > > > to
> > > > > be able to drive your car) of £2000 (or $3800) for 4x4s and other
> > higher
> > > > > emissions vehicles. We already pay petrol prices of just over $7
per
> > US
> > > > > gallon, and the current road tax is £190.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#52
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT - bloody liberals..
I haven't worked in eleven years, so that is not a major concern for me.
But if you put a turbo or a supercharger on the new Wrangler four cylinder
engine, then it would probably be adequate. I talked to one company that
had been working on a turbo kit for the 4 cylinder TJ, which they abandoned.
They claimed there wasn't enough demand, but things will have changed by the
time you get your next Jeep.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:k08Eg.3646$r61.2421@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Kind of did all that 20 years ago with my 2.2 litre Series 2A Land Rover
:-)
> I want a Jeep I can drive to work in.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44dfad3f$0$23713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > The four cylinder Wranglers are 2.5 liters, and the new model engine is
> one
> > of those overhead cam things. It might even be clean enough for Europe.
> I
> > have had the older overhead valve engine in my 1995 for twelve years,
and
> I
> > have no complaints. I would not recommend trying to drive it with four
> > adults in city traffic though.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> > news:BUjDg.2410$r61.93@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
> > > No, it doesn't mention 4x4s ; it is everything in band G (which is >
220
> g
> > > CO / km). The Wrangler is about 330. In practice it means everything
> with
> > an
> > > engine size of > ~ 2.5 litres which means all 4x4s. Fortunately for me
> in
> > > the short term, it only would apply to new cars so I get to keep the
> Waggy
> > > and the TJ (just better take really good care of them if the liberals
> get
> > in
> > > as I wouldn't be able to replace them with a new vehicle.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:44dca41a$0$23764$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > The article cited doesn't mention 4x4 vehicles. It says that the
> > proposed
> > > > tax targets luxury vehicles such as the BMW 7 Series and Bentley
> > > > Continentals, and would apply to new vehicles only. Surely, the
> > purchaser
> > > > of a Bentley Continental could afford to put an additional £2000
into
> > the
> > > > common pot?
> > > >
> > > > When I was in Spain they told me that people buy SUVs "so they can
see
> > > over
> > > > the traffic in the cities". That agrees with my experience there,
> > > although
> > > > there must be some who use them on farms and orchards, or who live
in
> > > areas
> > > > of heavy snowfall.
> > > >
> > > > A proponent of the bill denies that placing a hefty tax on new
> vehicles
> > > > would drive consumers to "retain dilapidated cars instead of
replacing
> > > > them". Retaining dilipated cars, and restoring them to running
> > condition,
> > > > is another way to help the environment and alleviate fuel shortages.
> It
> > > > takes a lot of raw materials and energy to manufacture a new car,
even
> > "a
> > > > car which is consistent with their environmental obligations".
> > > >
> > > > I like the idea of taxing airlines per flight, rather than per
> > passenger.
> > > > One time I was on a trans-Atlantic flight, and the two passengers
next
> > to
> > > me
> > > > didn't show up. I enjoyed their wine, and stretched out to sleep on
> > their
> > > > seats. I suppose I should have been made to pay their share of the
> fuel
> > > > tax.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:sUVCg.1865$r61.1570@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4992676.stm
> > > > >
> > > > > An opposition party is planning a road tax ( the price you pay
each
> > year
> > > > to
> > > > > be able to drive your car) of £2000 (or $3800) for 4x4s and other
> > higher
> > > > > emissions vehicles. We already pay petrol prices of just over $7
per
> > US
> > > > > gallon, and the current road tax is £190.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
But if you put a turbo or a supercharger on the new Wrangler four cylinder
engine, then it would probably be adequate. I talked to one company that
had been working on a turbo kit for the 4 cylinder TJ, which they abandoned.
They claimed there wasn't enough demand, but things will have changed by the
time you get your next Jeep.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:k08Eg.3646$r61.2421@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Kind of did all that 20 years ago with my 2.2 litre Series 2A Land Rover
:-)
> I want a Jeep I can drive to work in.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44dfad3f$0$23713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > The four cylinder Wranglers are 2.5 liters, and the new model engine is
> one
> > of those overhead cam things. It might even be clean enough for Europe.
> I
> > have had the older overhead valve engine in my 1995 for twelve years,
and
> I
> > have no complaints. I would not recommend trying to drive it with four
> > adults in city traffic though.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> > news:BUjDg.2410$r61.93@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
> > > No, it doesn't mention 4x4s ; it is everything in band G (which is >
220
> g
> > > CO / km). The Wrangler is about 330. In practice it means everything
> with
> > an
> > > engine size of > ~ 2.5 litres which means all 4x4s. Fortunately for me
> in
> > > the short term, it only would apply to new cars so I get to keep the
> Waggy
> > > and the TJ (just better take really good care of them if the liberals
> get
> > in
> > > as I wouldn't be able to replace them with a new vehicle.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:44dca41a$0$23764$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > The article cited doesn't mention 4x4 vehicles. It says that the
> > proposed
> > > > tax targets luxury vehicles such as the BMW 7 Series and Bentley
> > > > Continentals, and would apply to new vehicles only. Surely, the
> > purchaser
> > > > of a Bentley Continental could afford to put an additional £2000
into
> > the
> > > > common pot?
> > > >
> > > > When I was in Spain they told me that people buy SUVs "so they can
see
> > > over
> > > > the traffic in the cities". That agrees with my experience there,
> > > although
> > > > there must be some who use them on farms and orchards, or who live
in
> > > areas
> > > > of heavy snowfall.
> > > >
> > > > A proponent of the bill denies that placing a hefty tax on new
> vehicles
> > > > would drive consumers to "retain dilapidated cars instead of
replacing
> > > > them". Retaining dilipated cars, and restoring them to running
> > condition,
> > > > is another way to help the environment and alleviate fuel shortages.
> It
> > > > takes a lot of raw materials and energy to manufacture a new car,
even
> > "a
> > > > car which is consistent with their environmental obligations".
> > > >
> > > > I like the idea of taxing airlines per flight, rather than per
> > passenger.
> > > > One time I was on a trans-Atlantic flight, and the two passengers
next
> > to
> > > me
> > > > didn't show up. I enjoyed their wine, and stretched out to sleep on
> > their
> > > > seats. I suppose I should have been made to pay their share of the
> fuel
> > > > tax.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:sUVCg.1865$r61.1570@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4992676.stm
> > > > >
> > > > > An opposition party is planning a road tax ( the price you pay
each
> > year
> > > > to
> > > > > be able to drive your car) of £2000 (or $3800) for 4x4s and other
> > higher
> > > > > emissions vehicles. We already pay petrol prices of just over $7
per
> > US
> > > > > gallon, and the current road tax is £190.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#53
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT - bloody liberals..
I haven't worked in eleven years, so that is not a major concern for me.
But if you put a turbo or a supercharger on the new Wrangler four cylinder
engine, then it would probably be adequate. I talked to one company that
had been working on a turbo kit for the 4 cylinder TJ, which they abandoned.
They claimed there wasn't enough demand, but things will have changed by the
time you get your next Jeep.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:k08Eg.3646$r61.2421@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Kind of did all that 20 years ago with my 2.2 litre Series 2A Land Rover
:-)
> I want a Jeep I can drive to work in.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44dfad3f$0$23713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > The four cylinder Wranglers are 2.5 liters, and the new model engine is
> one
> > of those overhead cam things. It might even be clean enough for Europe.
> I
> > have had the older overhead valve engine in my 1995 for twelve years,
and
> I
> > have no complaints. I would not recommend trying to drive it with four
> > adults in city traffic though.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> > news:BUjDg.2410$r61.93@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
> > > No, it doesn't mention 4x4s ; it is everything in band G (which is >
220
> g
> > > CO / km). The Wrangler is about 330. In practice it means everything
> with
> > an
> > > engine size of > ~ 2.5 litres which means all 4x4s. Fortunately for me
> in
> > > the short term, it only would apply to new cars so I get to keep the
> Waggy
> > > and the TJ (just better take really good care of them if the liberals
> get
> > in
> > > as I wouldn't be able to replace them with a new vehicle.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:44dca41a$0$23764$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > The article cited doesn't mention 4x4 vehicles. It says that the
> > proposed
> > > > tax targets luxury vehicles such as the BMW 7 Series and Bentley
> > > > Continentals, and would apply to new vehicles only. Surely, the
> > purchaser
> > > > of a Bentley Continental could afford to put an additional £2000
into
> > the
> > > > common pot?
> > > >
> > > > When I was in Spain they told me that people buy SUVs "so they can
see
> > > over
> > > > the traffic in the cities". That agrees with my experience there,
> > > although
> > > > there must be some who use them on farms and orchards, or who live
in
> > > areas
> > > > of heavy snowfall.
> > > >
> > > > A proponent of the bill denies that placing a hefty tax on new
> vehicles
> > > > would drive consumers to "retain dilapidated cars instead of
replacing
> > > > them". Retaining dilipated cars, and restoring them to running
> > condition,
> > > > is another way to help the environment and alleviate fuel shortages.
> It
> > > > takes a lot of raw materials and energy to manufacture a new car,
even
> > "a
> > > > car which is consistent with their environmental obligations".
> > > >
> > > > I like the idea of taxing airlines per flight, rather than per
> > passenger.
> > > > One time I was on a trans-Atlantic flight, and the two passengers
next
> > to
> > > me
> > > > didn't show up. I enjoyed their wine, and stretched out to sleep on
> > their
> > > > seats. I suppose I should have been made to pay their share of the
> fuel
> > > > tax.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:sUVCg.1865$r61.1570@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4992676.stm
> > > > >
> > > > > An opposition party is planning a road tax ( the price you pay
each
> > year
> > > > to
> > > > > be able to drive your car) of £2000 (or $3800) for 4x4s and other
> > higher
> > > > > emissions vehicles. We already pay petrol prices of just over $7
per
> > US
> > > > > gallon, and the current road tax is £190.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
But if you put a turbo or a supercharger on the new Wrangler four cylinder
engine, then it would probably be adequate. I talked to one company that
had been working on a turbo kit for the 4 cylinder TJ, which they abandoned.
They claimed there wasn't enough demand, but things will have changed by the
time you get your next Jeep.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:k08Eg.3646$r61.2421@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Kind of did all that 20 years ago with my 2.2 litre Series 2A Land Rover
:-)
> I want a Jeep I can drive to work in.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44dfad3f$0$23713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > The four cylinder Wranglers are 2.5 liters, and the new model engine is
> one
> > of those overhead cam things. It might even be clean enough for Europe.
> I
> > have had the older overhead valve engine in my 1995 for twelve years,
and
> I
> > have no complaints. I would not recommend trying to drive it with four
> > adults in city traffic though.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> > news:BUjDg.2410$r61.93@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
> > > No, it doesn't mention 4x4s ; it is everything in band G (which is >
220
> g
> > > CO / km). The Wrangler is about 330. In practice it means everything
> with
> > an
> > > engine size of > ~ 2.5 litres which means all 4x4s. Fortunately for me
> in
> > > the short term, it only would apply to new cars so I get to keep the
> Waggy
> > > and the TJ (just better take really good care of them if the liberals
> get
> > in
> > > as I wouldn't be able to replace them with a new vehicle.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:44dca41a$0$23764$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > The article cited doesn't mention 4x4 vehicles. It says that the
> > proposed
> > > > tax targets luxury vehicles such as the BMW 7 Series and Bentley
> > > > Continentals, and would apply to new vehicles only. Surely, the
> > purchaser
> > > > of a Bentley Continental could afford to put an additional £2000
into
> > the
> > > > common pot?
> > > >
> > > > When I was in Spain they told me that people buy SUVs "so they can
see
> > > over
> > > > the traffic in the cities". That agrees with my experience there,
> > > although
> > > > there must be some who use them on farms and orchards, or who live
in
> > > areas
> > > > of heavy snowfall.
> > > >
> > > > A proponent of the bill denies that placing a hefty tax on new
> vehicles
> > > > would drive consumers to "retain dilapidated cars instead of
replacing
> > > > them". Retaining dilipated cars, and restoring them to running
> > condition,
> > > > is another way to help the environment and alleviate fuel shortages.
> It
> > > > takes a lot of raw materials and energy to manufacture a new car,
even
> > "a
> > > > car which is consistent with their environmental obligations".
> > > >
> > > > I like the idea of taxing airlines per flight, rather than per
> > passenger.
> > > > One time I was on a trans-Atlantic flight, and the two passengers
next
> > to
> > > me
> > > > didn't show up. I enjoyed their wine, and stretched out to sleep on
> > their
> > > > seats. I suppose I should have been made to pay their share of the
> fuel
> > > > tax.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:sUVCg.1865$r61.1570@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4992676.stm
> > > > >
> > > > > An opposition party is planning a road tax ( the price you pay
each
> > year
> > > > to
> > > > > be able to drive your car) of £2000 (or $3800) for 4x4s and other
> > higher
> > > > > emissions vehicles. We already pay petrol prices of just over $7
per
> > US
> > > > > gallon, and the current road tax is £190.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#58
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Re: OT - bloody liberals..
Hey Bill, here's a new Jeep for ya:
http://www.segway.com/segway/model_xt.html
That should be short wheelbase enough for anyone....although somehow I
am having a problem picturing one on Lions Back or Shafer Trail.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart.
> If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.
> - Winston Churchill
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4992676.stm
>>
>>An opposition party is planning a road tax ( the price you pay each year to
>>be able to drive your car) of £2000 (or $3800) for 4x4s and other higher
>>emissions vehicles. We already pay petrol prices of just over $7 per US
>>gallon, and the current road tax is £190.
>>
>>--
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
http://www.segway.com/segway/model_xt.html
That should be short wheelbase enough for anyone....although somehow I
am having a problem picturing one on Lions Back or Shafer Trail.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart.
> If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.
> - Winston Churchill
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4992676.stm
>>
>>An opposition party is planning a road tax ( the price you pay each year to
>>be able to drive your car) of £2000 (or $3800) for 4x4s and other higher
>>emissions vehicles. We already pay petrol prices of just over $7 per US
>>gallon, and the current road tax is £190.
>>
>>--
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT - bloody liberals..
Hey Bill, here's a new Jeep for ya:
http://www.segway.com/segway/model_xt.html
That should be short wheelbase enough for anyone....although somehow I
am having a problem picturing one on Lions Back or Shafer Trail.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart.
> If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.
> - Winston Churchill
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4992676.stm
>>
>>An opposition party is planning a road tax ( the price you pay each year to
>>be able to drive your car) of £2000 (or $3800) for 4x4s and other higher
>>emissions vehicles. We already pay petrol prices of just over $7 per US
>>gallon, and the current road tax is £190.
>>
>>--
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
http://www.segway.com/segway/model_xt.html
That should be short wheelbase enough for anyone....although somehow I
am having a problem picturing one on Lions Back or Shafer Trail.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart.
> If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.
> - Winston Churchill
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4992676.stm
>>
>>An opposition party is planning a road tax ( the price you pay each year to
>>be able to drive your car) of £2000 (or $3800) for 4x4s and other higher
>>emissions vehicles. We already pay petrol prices of just over $7 per US
>>gallon, and the current road tax is £190.
>>
>>--
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT - bloody liberals..
Hey Bill, here's a new Jeep for ya:
http://www.segway.com/segway/model_xt.html
That should be short wheelbase enough for anyone....although somehow I
am having a problem picturing one on Lions Back or Shafer Trail.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart.
> If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.
> - Winston Churchill
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4992676.stm
>>
>>An opposition party is planning a road tax ( the price you pay each year to
>>be able to drive your car) of £2000 (or $3800) for 4x4s and other higher
>>emissions vehicles. We already pay petrol prices of just over $7 per US
>>gallon, and the current road tax is £190.
>>
>>--
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
http://www.segway.com/segway/model_xt.html
That should be short wheelbase enough for anyone....although somehow I
am having a problem picturing one on Lions Back or Shafer Trail.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart.
> If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.
> - Winston Churchill
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4992676.stm
>>
>>An opposition party is planning a road tax ( the price you pay each year to
>>be able to drive your car) of £2000 (or $3800) for 4x4s and other higher
>>emissions vehicles. We already pay petrol prices of just over $7 per US
>>gallon, and the current road tax is £190.
>>
>>--
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ