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There weren't any yuppies yet. These were folks who had grown up in the
area prior to the availability of gas and you'd think they'd know
better. But then the grain elevators used to detonate every now and
then as well.
billy ray proclaimed:
> Mainly yuppies who don't know how to burn cleanly or properly select
> seasoned wood.
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:L5adnWWX7Ol0Pf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
>>fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department get a
>>chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones happened
>>all the time. In a year, a big wood furnace would put about an inch of
>>gunk on the inside of the chimney.
>>
>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>That is why you had to clean your furnace and chimney annually.
>>>
>>>Safety isn't rocket science, it is common sense.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Peadnf2G8YPQBf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>
>>>>XS11E proclaimed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in
>>>>>news:44615d08$0$6055$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>When I was young and foolish, I bought plans for a home sized used
>>>>>>motor oil furnace, from the Mother Earth News. My eyes bugged out
>>>>>>of my head when I read them. You were supposed to use a manual
>>>>>>valve and a home made "nozzle", to control the drip rate of the
>>>>>>oil, as it dropped on pieces of fire brick, placed on a burner,
>>>>>>made out of a frying pan. You got the fire going with kerosene or
>>>>>>barbecue lighter fluid. I am still alive. That means I must not
>>>>>>have made the thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>If you had made it, it would have worked. Years back we had a
>>>>>commercial fuel oil heater made exactly as you describe, it worked to
>>>>>perfection and heated one end of our house, the wood stove in the
>>>>>kitchen heated the other end. Unlike the one you describe, ours did
>>>>>have a fairly elaborate chimmney to exhaust the fumes.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The better old burners had forced air to keep a smaller flame hotter with
>>>>less soot. Bummer but all used motor oil has a pretty good load of sulfur
>>>>in it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
area prior to the availability of gas and you'd think they'd know
better. But then the grain elevators used to detonate every now and
then as well.
billy ray proclaimed:
> Mainly yuppies who don't know how to burn cleanly or properly select
> seasoned wood.
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:L5adnWWX7Ol0Pf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
>>fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department get a
>>chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones happened
>>all the time. In a year, a big wood furnace would put about an inch of
>>gunk on the inside of the chimney.
>>
>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>That is why you had to clean your furnace and chimney annually.
>>>
>>>Safety isn't rocket science, it is common sense.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Peadnf2G8YPQBf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>
>>>>XS11E proclaimed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in
>>>>>news:44615d08$0$6055$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>When I was young and foolish, I bought plans for a home sized used
>>>>>>motor oil furnace, from the Mother Earth News. My eyes bugged out
>>>>>>of my head when I read them. You were supposed to use a manual
>>>>>>valve and a home made "nozzle", to control the drip rate of the
>>>>>>oil, as it dropped on pieces of fire brick, placed on a burner,
>>>>>>made out of a frying pan. You got the fire going with kerosene or
>>>>>>barbecue lighter fluid. I am still alive. That means I must not
>>>>>>have made the thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>If you had made it, it would have worked. Years back we had a
>>>>>commercial fuel oil heater made exactly as you describe, it worked to
>>>>>perfection and heated one end of our house, the wood stove in the
>>>>>kitchen heated the other end. Unlike the one you describe, ours did
>>>>>have a fairly elaborate chimmney to exhaust the fumes.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The better old burners had forced air to keep a smaller flame hotter with
>>>>less soot. Bummer but all used motor oil has a pretty good load of sulfur
>>>>in it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 23:33:15 GMT, "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote:
> You're thinking of a "swamp cooler". ecch! I've got a Trane SEER 13
> combo A/C and "real" heat pump. Works great up here in the mountains
> (7000" above sea level).
I had a house with 2 geothermal heat pumps previously... Worked great
at basically sea level and along the Gulf Coast... Electrical costs
seemed quite a bit less than other houses that I've owned...
Unfortunately, it's an apples to oranges type of comparison since the
houses weren't identical...
> You're thinking of a "swamp cooler". ecch! I've got a Trane SEER 13
> combo A/C and "real" heat pump. Works great up here in the mountains
> (7000" above sea level).
I had a house with 2 geothermal heat pumps previously... Worked great
at basically sea level and along the Gulf Coast... Electrical costs
seemed quite a bit less than other houses that I've owned...
Unfortunately, it's an apples to oranges type of comparison since the
houses weren't identical...
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 23:33:15 GMT, "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote:
> You're thinking of a "swamp cooler". ecch! I've got a Trane SEER 13
> combo A/C and "real" heat pump. Works great up here in the mountains
> (7000" above sea level).
I had a house with 2 geothermal heat pumps previously... Worked great
at basically sea level and along the Gulf Coast... Electrical costs
seemed quite a bit less than other houses that I've owned...
Unfortunately, it's an apples to oranges type of comparison since the
houses weren't identical...
> You're thinking of a "swamp cooler". ecch! I've got a Trane SEER 13
> combo A/C and "real" heat pump. Works great up here in the mountains
> (7000" above sea level).
I had a house with 2 geothermal heat pumps previously... Worked great
at basically sea level and along the Gulf Coast... Electrical costs
seemed quite a bit less than other houses that I've owned...
Unfortunately, it's an apples to oranges type of comparison since the
houses weren't identical...
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 23:33:15 GMT, "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote:
> You're thinking of a "swamp cooler". ecch! I've got a Trane SEER 13
> combo A/C and "real" heat pump. Works great up here in the mountains
> (7000" above sea level).
I had a house with 2 geothermal heat pumps previously... Worked great
at basically sea level and along the Gulf Coast... Electrical costs
seemed quite a bit less than other houses that I've owned...
Unfortunately, it's an apples to oranges type of comparison since the
houses weren't identical...
> You're thinking of a "swamp cooler". ecch! I've got a Trane SEER 13
> combo A/C and "real" heat pump. Works great up here in the mountains
> (7000" above sea level).
I had a house with 2 geothermal heat pumps previously... Worked great
at basically sea level and along the Gulf Coast... Electrical costs
seemed quite a bit less than other houses that I've owned...
Unfortunately, it's an apples to oranges type of comparison since the
houses weren't identical...
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:46:18 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> I was actually surprised to find out how little of our oil supply comes
> from the mideast any more.
Even if that is the case, removing the world's dependence on oil would
---- up the financing for the terrorists...
wrote:
> I was actually surprised to find out how little of our oil supply comes
> from the mideast any more.
Even if that is the case, removing the world's dependence on oil would
---- up the financing for the terrorists...
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:46:18 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> I was actually surprised to find out how little of our oil supply comes
> from the mideast any more.
Even if that is the case, removing the world's dependence on oil would
---- up the financing for the terrorists...
wrote:
> I was actually surprised to find out how little of our oil supply comes
> from the mideast any more.
Even if that is the case, removing the world's dependence on oil would
---- up the financing for the terrorists...
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:46:18 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> I was actually surprised to find out how little of our oil supply comes
> from the mideast any more.
Even if that is the case, removing the world's dependence on oil would
---- up the financing for the terrorists...
wrote:
> I was actually surprised to find out how little of our oil supply comes
> from the mideast any more.
Even if that is the case, removing the world's dependence on oil would
---- up the financing for the terrorists...
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 19:26:47 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
> fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department
> get a chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones
> happened all the time.
Kind of makes too much sense to build your chimney so that it catching
on fire would be a non-event, I guess...
wrote:
> Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
> fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department
> get a chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones
> happened all the time.
Kind of makes too much sense to build your chimney so that it catching
on fire would be a non-event, I guess...
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 19:26:47 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
> fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department
> get a chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones
> happened all the time.
Kind of makes too much sense to build your chimney so that it catching
on fire would be a non-event, I guess...
wrote:
> Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
> fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department
> get a chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones
> happened all the time.
Kind of makes too much sense to build your chimney so that it catching
on fire would be a non-event, I guess...
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 19:26:47 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
> fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department
> get a chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones
> happened all the time.
Kind of makes too much sense to build your chimney so that it catching
on fire would be a non-event, I guess...
wrote:
> Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
> fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department
> get a chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones
> happened all the time.
Kind of makes too much sense to build your chimney so that it catching
on fire would be a non-event, I guess...


