Greg

I agree about the hitch, to small, also when we ordered our Ford Escape
last year we didn't get the hitch, 1 1/4" at $480.00, so this year we
decided we wanted one, went to Ford dealer, they put on a 2" Hidden Hitch
for $360.00, these are Canadian prices, but gives you the idea.

"Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
news:br6c4g$cff@garcia.efn.org...
> Make sure you get 3.73 gearing and a Dana 44 rear axle!!! No reason to
> EVER order a new Jeep w/o those two items.
>
> Also, forget the 1-1/4" hitch. THat's an uncommon size.
>
> -jeff
>
>
> In <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com> "Valued User"
<valued@user.com> writes:
>
> >Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on
rock
> >crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>
> >I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>
> >Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,
sentry
> >key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>
> >And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>
> >I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>
> >Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm
seriously
> >debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I
want
> >to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> >huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>
> >I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> >tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
> >the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> >worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> >console actually does something?
>
> >The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this
discussion
> >has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> >thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>
> >The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
> >saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> >Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>
> >What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> >opt. for).
>
> >I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>
> >Thanks.
>
>

Greg

I agree about the hitch, to small, also when we ordered our Ford Escape
last year we didn't get the hitch, 1 1/4" at $480.00, so this year we
decided we wanted one, went to Ford dealer, they put on a 2" Hidden Hitch
for $360.00, these are Canadian prices, but gives you the idea.

"Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
news:br6c4g$cff@garcia.efn.org...
> Make sure you get 3.73 gearing and a Dana 44 rear axle!!! No reason to
> EVER order a new Jeep w/o those two items.
>
> Also, forget the 1-1/4" hitch. THat's an uncommon size.
>
> -jeff
>
>
> In <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com> "Valued User"
<valued@user.com> writes:
>
> >Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on
rock
> >crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>
> >I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>
> >Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,
sentry
> >key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>
> >And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>
> >I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>
> >Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm
seriously
> >debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I
want
> >to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> >huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>
> >I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> >tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
> >the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> >worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> >console actually does something?
>
> >The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this
discussion
> >has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> >thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>
> >The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
> >saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> >Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>
> >What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> >opt. for).
>
> >I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>
> >Thanks.
>
>

Greg

I agree about the hitch, to small, also when we ordered our Ford Escape
last year we didn't get the hitch, 1 1/4" at $480.00, so this year we
decided we wanted one, went to Ford dealer, they put on a 2" Hidden Hitch
for $360.00, these are Canadian prices, but gives you the idea.

"Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
news:br6c4g$cff@garcia.efn.org...
> Make sure you get 3.73 gearing and a Dana 44 rear axle!!! No reason to
> EVER order a new Jeep w/o those two items.
>
> Also, forget the 1-1/4" hitch. THat's an uncommon size.
>
> -jeff
>
>
> In <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com> "Valued User"
<valued@user.com> writes:
>
> >Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on
rock
> >crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>
> >I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>
> >Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,
sentry
> >key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>
> >And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>
> >I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>
> >Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm
seriously
> >debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I
want
> >to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> >huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>
> >I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> >tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
> >the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> >worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> >console actually does something?
>
> >The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this
discussion
> >has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> >thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>
> >The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
> >saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> >Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>
> >What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> >opt. for).
>
> >I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>
> >Thanks.
>
>

FrankW

I really don't know why it would be too small.
A TJ is only rated for 2000 lbs. It is plenty I'm sure.

Greg wrote:

> I agree about the hitch, to small, also when we ordered our Ford Escape
> last year we didn't get the hitch, 1 1/4" at $480.00, so this year we
> decided we wanted one, went to Ford dealer, they put on a 2" Hidden Hitch
> for $360.00, these are Canadian prices, but gives you the idea.
>
> "Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
> news:br6c4g$cff@garcia.efn.org...
>
>>Make sure you get 3.73 gearing and a Dana 44 rear axle!!! No reason to
>>EVER order a new Jeep w/o those two items.
>>
>>Also, forget the 1-1/4" hitch. THat's an uncommon size.
>>
>>-jeff
>>
>>
>>In <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com> "Valued User"
>
> <valued@user.com> writes:
>
>>>Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on
>
> rock
>
>>>crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>>
>>>I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>>
>>>Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,
>
> sentry
>
>>>key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>>
>>>And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>>
>>>I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>>
>>>Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm
>
> seriously
>
>>>debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I
>
> want
>
>>>to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
>>>huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>>
>>>I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
>>>tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
>>>the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
>>>worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
>>>console actually does something?
>>
>>>The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this
>
> discussion
>
>>>has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
>>>thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>>
>>>The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
>>>saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
>>>Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>>
>>>What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
>>>opt. for).
>>
>>>I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>
>

FrankW

I really don't know why it would be too small.
A TJ is only rated for 2000 lbs. It is plenty I'm sure.

Greg wrote:

> I agree about the hitch, to small, also when we ordered our Ford Escape
> last year we didn't get the hitch, 1 1/4" at $480.00, so this year we
> decided we wanted one, went to Ford dealer, they put on a 2" Hidden Hitch
> for $360.00, these are Canadian prices, but gives you the idea.
>
> "Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
> news:br6c4g$cff@garcia.efn.org...
>
>>Make sure you get 3.73 gearing and a Dana 44 rear axle!!! No reason to
>>EVER order a new Jeep w/o those two items.
>>
>>Also, forget the 1-1/4" hitch. THat's an uncommon size.
>>
>>-jeff
>>
>>
>>In <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com> "Valued User"
>
> <valued@user.com> writes:
>
>>>Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on
>
> rock
>
>>>crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>>
>>>I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>>
>>>Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,
>
> sentry
>
>>>key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>>
>>>And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>>
>>>I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>>
>>>Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm
>
> seriously
>
>>>debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I
>
> want
>
>>>to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
>>>huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>>
>>>I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
>>>tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
>>>the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
>>>worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
>>>console actually does something?
>>
>>>The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this
>
> discussion
>
>>>has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
>>>thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>>
>>>The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
>>>saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
>>>Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>>
>>>What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
>>>opt. for).
>>
>>>I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>
>

FrankW

I really don't know why it would be too small.
A TJ is only rated for 2000 lbs. It is plenty I'm sure.

Greg wrote:

> I agree about the hitch, to small, also when we ordered our Ford Escape
> last year we didn't get the hitch, 1 1/4" at $480.00, so this year we
> decided we wanted one, went to Ford dealer, they put on a 2" Hidden Hitch
> for $360.00, these are Canadian prices, but gives you the idea.
>
> "Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
> news:br6c4g$cff@garcia.efn.org...
>
>>Make sure you get 3.73 gearing and a Dana 44 rear axle!!! No reason to
>>EVER order a new Jeep w/o those two items.
>>
>>Also, forget the 1-1/4" hitch. THat's an uncommon size.
>>
>>-jeff
>>
>>
>>In <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com> "Valued User"
>
> <valued@user.com> writes:
>
>>>Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on
>
> rock
>
>>>crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>>
>>>I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>>
>>>Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,
>
> sentry
>
>>>key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>>
>>>And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>>
>>>I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>>
>>>Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm
>
> seriously
>
>>>debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I
>
> want
>
>>>to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
>>>huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>>
>>>I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
>>>tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
>>>the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
>>>worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
>>>console actually does something?
>>
>>>The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this
>
> discussion
>
>>>has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
>>>thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>>
>>>The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
>>>saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
>>>Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>>
>>>What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
>>>opt. for).
>>
>>>I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The inch and a quarter is too small for the after market
accessories such as bicycle racks, etc.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

FrankW wrote:
>
> I really don't know why it would be too small.
> A TJ is only rated for 2000 lbs. It is plenty I'm sure.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The inch and a quarter is too small for the after market
accessories such as bicycle racks, etc.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

FrankW wrote:
>
> I really don't know why it would be too small.
> A TJ is only rated for 2000 lbs. It is plenty I'm sure.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The inch and a quarter is too small for the after market
accessories such as bicycle racks, etc.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

FrankW wrote:
>
> I really don't know why it would be too small.
> A TJ is only rated for 2000 lbs. It is plenty I'm sure.

thomas

the adapter size of 1 1/4 inch is uncommon, go for the 2 inch.

I got mine for $99 US at a local 4x4 shop (Hidden Hitch brand) and put
it on myself (no drilling required on my 03).



FrankW wrote:
> I really don't know why it would be too small.
> A TJ is only rated for 2000 lbs. It is plenty I'm sure.
>
> Greg wrote:
>
>> I agree about the hitch, to small, also when we ordered our Ford Escape
>> last year we didn't get the hitch, 1 1/4" at $480.00, so this year we
>> decided we wanted one, went to Ford dealer, they put on a 2" Hidden Hitch
>> for $360.00, these are Canadian prices, but gives you the idea.
>>
>> "Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
>> news:br6c4g$cff@garcia.efn.org...
>>
>>> Make sure you get 3.73 gearing and a Dana 44 rear axle!!! No reason to
>>> EVER order a new Jeep w/o those two items.
>>>
>>> Also, forget the 1-1/4" hitch. THat's an uncommon size.
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> In <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com> "Valued User"
>>
>>
>> <valued@user.com> writes:
>>
>>>> Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on
>>
>>
>> rock
>>
>>>> crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,
>>
>>
>> sentry
>>
>>>> key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>>>
>>>
>>>> And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm
>>
>>
>> seriously
>>
>>>> debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I
>>
>>
>> want
>>
>>>> to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
>>>> huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
>>>> tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of
>>>> opting for
>>>> the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the
>>>> option is
>>>> worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in
>>>> the
>>>> console actually does something?
>>>
>>>
>>>> The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this
>>
>>
>> discussion
>>
>>>> has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
>>>> thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>>>
>>>
>>>> The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the
>>>> dealer is
>>>> saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
>>>> Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>>>
>>>
>>>> What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I
>>>> didn't
>>>> opt. for).
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>