Only in a JEEP 4x4?
11-12-2003, 09:15 AM
#31
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Re: Only in a JEEP 4x4?
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
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> In article <borgfr$1htjmj$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote:
>
> > I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
anyone
> > offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
>
> Yugo?
....not lately, you?
>
>
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> In article <borgfr$1htjmj$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote:
>
> > I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
anyone
> > offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
>
> Yugo?
....not lately, you?
>
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11-12-2003, 10:25 AM
#32
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Re: Only in a JEEP 4x4?
softening of the breed? The breed isn't being softened. . It has been
elimininated. !! The last true and real Jeeps were AMC designs. And only
one is being built not....but not for long.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
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> Just heard a commercial for the new Jeep Columbia edition. At the end
> it says
>
> "Only in a JEEP 4x4"
>
> How long has the slogan included the 4x4? Could this be a sign of what
> is to come.... "Only in a JEEP AWD/IFS/IRS etc...."
>
> Just made me think after hearing about the softening of the breed.
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
elimininated. !! The last true and real Jeeps were AMC designs. And only
one is being built not....but not for long.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
news:aarongraham-0B567E.13411511112003@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> Just heard a commercial for the new Jeep Columbia edition. At the end
> it says
>
> "Only in a JEEP 4x4"
>
> How long has the slogan included the 4x4? Could this be a sign of what
> is to come.... "Only in a JEEP AWD/IFS/IRS etc...."
>
> Just made me think after hearing about the softening of the breed.
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
11-12-2003, 10:25 AM
#33
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Re: Only in a JEEP 4x4?
softening of the breed? The breed isn't being softened. . It has been
elimininated. !! The last true and real Jeeps were AMC designs. And only
one is being built not....but not for long.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
news:aarongraham-0B567E.13411511112003@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> Just heard a commercial for the new Jeep Columbia edition. At the end
> it says
>
> "Only in a JEEP 4x4"
>
> How long has the slogan included the 4x4? Could this be a sign of what
> is to come.... "Only in a JEEP AWD/IFS/IRS etc...."
>
> Just made me think after hearing about the softening of the breed.
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
elimininated. !! The last true and real Jeeps were AMC designs. And only
one is being built not....but not for long.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
news:aarongraham-0B567E.13411511112003@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> Just heard a commercial for the new Jeep Columbia edition. At the end
> it says
>
> "Only in a JEEP 4x4"
>
> How long has the slogan included the 4x4? Could this be a sign of what
> is to come.... "Only in a JEEP AWD/IFS/IRS etc...."
>
> Just made me think after hearing about the softening of the breed.
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
11-12-2003, 10:25 AM
#34
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Re: Only in a JEEP 4x4?
softening of the breed? The breed isn't being softened. . It has been
elimininated. !! The last true and real Jeeps were AMC designs. And only
one is being built not....but not for long.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
news:aarongraham-0B567E.13411511112003@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> Just heard a commercial for the new Jeep Columbia edition. At the end
> it says
>
> "Only in a JEEP 4x4"
>
> How long has the slogan included the 4x4? Could this be a sign of what
> is to come.... "Only in a JEEP AWD/IFS/IRS etc...."
>
> Just made me think after hearing about the softening of the breed.
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
elimininated. !! The last true and real Jeeps were AMC designs. And only
one is being built not....but not for long.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
news:aarongraham-0B567E.13411511112003@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> Just heard a commercial for the new Jeep Columbia edition. At the end
> it says
>
> "Only in a JEEP 4x4"
>
> How long has the slogan included the 4x4? Could this be a sign of what
> is to come.... "Only in a JEEP AWD/IFS/IRS etc...."
>
> Just made me think after hearing about the softening of the breed.
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
11-12-2003, 10:26 AM
#35
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Re: Only in a JEEP 4x4?
yes. Chrysler, Ford, and GM./
"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
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> > Think I heard it about the same time as the weasel worded
> > "Trail Rated"...
>
> I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
anyone
> offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>
"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
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> > Think I heard it about the same time as the weasel worded
> > "Trail Rated"...
>
> I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
anyone
> offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>
11-12-2003, 10:26 AM
#36
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Re: Only in a JEEP 4x4?
yes. Chrysler, Ford, and GM./
"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:borgfr$1htjmj$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Think I heard it about the same time as the weasel worded
> > "Trail Rated"...
>
> I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
anyone
> offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>
"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:borgfr$1htjmj$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Think I heard it about the same time as the weasel worded
> > "Trail Rated"...
>
> I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
anyone
> offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>
11-12-2003, 10:26 AM
#37
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Re: Only in a JEEP 4x4?
yes. Chrysler, Ford, and GM./
"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:borgfr$1htjmj$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Think I heard it about the same time as the weasel worded
> > "Trail Rated"...
>
> I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
anyone
> offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>
"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:borgfr$1htjmj$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Think I heard it about the same time as the weasel worded
> > "Trail Rated"...
>
> I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
anyone
> offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>
11-12-2003, 10:43 AM
#38
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Re: Only in a JEEP 4x4?
The only thing worse than the "Trail Rated" marketing campaign is the stupid
badges they're putting on the products.
Watch closely, folks, this is "brand management" run amok. If they can
justify killing off all the Jeep brand stands for by dumbing it down to
increase volume they'll do it in a heartbeat.
The new Grand is likely to have IFS, even though they said a few months ago
it "didn't perform to our expectations of what a Jeep should do off road"
vs. a solid axle. Then comes the dumb *** PR announcement campaign where the
DC executive says "not all Jeeps have to be able to run down the Rubicon
Trail, do they? I think not!" That simple pronouncement meant the end of
Jeep as we know it.
Oh, well, there's always the chance I can buy a few more and stash 'em
somewhere!
"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:Vissb.52303$Ec1.3392510@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> yes. Chrysler, Ford, and GM./
> "Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
> news:borgfr$1htjmj$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Think I heard it about the same time as the weasel worded
> > > "Trail Rated"...
> >
> > I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
> anyone
> > offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
> > --
> > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> >
> >
>
>
badges they're putting on the products.
Watch closely, folks, this is "brand management" run amok. If they can
justify killing off all the Jeep brand stands for by dumbing it down to
increase volume they'll do it in a heartbeat.
The new Grand is likely to have IFS, even though they said a few months ago
it "didn't perform to our expectations of what a Jeep should do off road"
vs. a solid axle. Then comes the dumb *** PR announcement campaign where the
DC executive says "not all Jeeps have to be able to run down the Rubicon
Trail, do they? I think not!" That simple pronouncement meant the end of
Jeep as we know it.
Oh, well, there's always the chance I can buy a few more and stash 'em
somewhere!
"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:Vissb.52303$Ec1.3392510@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> yes. Chrysler, Ford, and GM./
> "Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
> news:borgfr$1htjmj$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Think I heard it about the same time as the weasel worded
> > > "Trail Rated"...
> >
> > I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
> anyone
> > offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
> > --
> > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> >
> >
>
>
11-12-2003, 10:43 AM
#39
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Re: Only in a JEEP 4x4?
The only thing worse than the "Trail Rated" marketing campaign is the stupid
badges they're putting on the products.
Watch closely, folks, this is "brand management" run amok. If they can
justify killing off all the Jeep brand stands for by dumbing it down to
increase volume they'll do it in a heartbeat.
The new Grand is likely to have IFS, even though they said a few months ago
it "didn't perform to our expectations of what a Jeep should do off road"
vs. a solid axle. Then comes the dumb *** PR announcement campaign where the
DC executive says "not all Jeeps have to be able to run down the Rubicon
Trail, do they? I think not!" That simple pronouncement meant the end of
Jeep as we know it.
Oh, well, there's always the chance I can buy a few more and stash 'em
somewhere!
"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:Vissb.52303$Ec1.3392510@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> yes. Chrysler, Ford, and GM./
> "Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
> news:borgfr$1htjmj$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Think I heard it about the same time as the weasel worded
> > > "Trail Rated"...
> >
> > I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
> anyone
> > offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
> > --
> > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> >
> >
>
>
badges they're putting on the products.
Watch closely, folks, this is "brand management" run amok. If they can
justify killing off all the Jeep brand stands for by dumbing it down to
increase volume they'll do it in a heartbeat.
The new Grand is likely to have IFS, even though they said a few months ago
it "didn't perform to our expectations of what a Jeep should do off road"
vs. a solid axle. Then comes the dumb *** PR announcement campaign where the
DC executive says "not all Jeeps have to be able to run down the Rubicon
Trail, do they? I think not!" That simple pronouncement meant the end of
Jeep as we know it.
Oh, well, there's always the chance I can buy a few more and stash 'em
somewhere!
"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:Vissb.52303$Ec1.3392510@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> yes. Chrysler, Ford, and GM./
> "Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
> news:borgfr$1htjmj$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Think I heard it about the same time as the weasel worded
> > > "Trail Rated"...
> >
> > I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
> anyone
> > offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
> > --
> > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> >
> >
>
>
11-12-2003, 10:43 AM
#40
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Re: Only in a JEEP 4x4?
The only thing worse than the "Trail Rated" marketing campaign is the stupid
badges they're putting on the products.
Watch closely, folks, this is "brand management" run amok. If they can
justify killing off all the Jeep brand stands for by dumbing it down to
increase volume they'll do it in a heartbeat.
The new Grand is likely to have IFS, even though they said a few months ago
it "didn't perform to our expectations of what a Jeep should do off road"
vs. a solid axle. Then comes the dumb *** PR announcement campaign where the
DC executive says "not all Jeeps have to be able to run down the Rubicon
Trail, do they? I think not!" That simple pronouncement meant the end of
Jeep as we know it.
Oh, well, there's always the chance I can buy a few more and stash 'em
somewhere!
"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:Vissb.52303$Ec1.3392510@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> yes. Chrysler, Ford, and GM./
> "Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
> news:borgfr$1htjmj$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Think I heard it about the same time as the weasel worded
> > > "Trail Rated"...
> >
> > I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
> anyone
> > offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
> > --
> > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> >
> >
>
>
badges they're putting on the products.
Watch closely, folks, this is "brand management" run amok. If they can
justify killing off all the Jeep brand stands for by dumbing it down to
increase volume they'll do it in a heartbeat.
The new Grand is likely to have IFS, even though they said a few months ago
it "didn't perform to our expectations of what a Jeep should do off road"
vs. a solid axle. Then comes the dumb *** PR announcement campaign where the
DC executive says "not all Jeeps have to be able to run down the Rubicon
Trail, do they? I think not!" That simple pronouncement meant the end of
Jeep as we know it.
Oh, well, there's always the chance I can buy a few more and stash 'em
somewhere!
"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:Vissb.52303$Ec1.3392510@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> yes. Chrysler, Ford, and GM./
> "Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
> news:borgfr$1htjmj$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Think I heard it about the same time as the weasel worded
> > > "Trail Rated"...
> >
> > I am amazed by GM's new slogan "Professional Grade Engineering". Does
> anyone
> > offer a vehicle designed by amateur engineers?
> > --
> > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> >
> >
>
>