Cherokee-LTD

Don't forget to whistle nonchalantly.. that always seems to help a covert
operation.
-Brian

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c2865v$1qliki$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
: The manager lives off property and usually strolls through with his dog
: every once in a while. His daughter lives on property but they are more
: "relaxed". I don't even know what he'd do if he caught me. I know he
told
: another tenet to stop working on his truck because the appt complex
doesn't
: carry insurance for this kind of stuff.
:
:
: Well, let's see how sneaky I can be :-)
:
:
: Billo
:
:
:
: "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: news:RUM1c.137510$Qg7.58399@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
: > Good plan but ... call the manager and report a "gas like odor" in the
: > stairwell furthest from your parking spot... this will buy you some
extra
: > "crap! I forgot to disconnect the..." time.
: > -Brian
: >
: > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: > news:104f3nd5c68iddd@corp.supernews.com...
: > : What you really need is a buddy with a pick up truck.
: > :
: > : Use the truck to bring the cherry picker over to the apartment
complex,
: > pull
: > : the motor and drop it into the truck, and drag the picker away. It
: > shouldn't
: > : take more than about an hour to get this all done. You can pull all of
: the
: > : electrics and many of the bolts before the picker rolls in, and this
: will
: > : trim the exposure time with the manager.
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > : "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
: > : news:c27vie$1psfv1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
: > : > Ok guys, don't laugh. This is running through my head as a possible
: > plan.
: > : >
: > : > If I can get a collapsible engine hoist I think I could pull the
: engine
: > : > without my manager knowing the better. Then the question is to get
: the
: > : > block to the machinist. He is only a couple of miles away.
: > : >
: > : > I was thinking of getting a pull by hand cart to stick it on and
pull
: it
: > : out
: > : > of my complex covered up (like a wagon or something).
: > : >
: > : > I would need a cart strong enough to carry the short block and would
: > roll
: > : > freely over speed bumps etc.
: > : >
: > : > Anyone can recommend a cart that might work?
: > : >
: > : > Thanks,
: > : >
: > : > Billo
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Just the bellhousing to block bolts. The pressure plate stays with
the flywheel and engine.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> What does it take to unbolt the short block from the frame/tranny. I know
> there are two engine mounts, one of which I have undone already. What about
> bolts to the tranny or other things?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Just the bellhousing to block bolts. The pressure plate stays with
the flywheel and engine.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> What does it take to unbolt the short block from the frame/tranny. I know
> there are two engine mounts, one of which I have undone already. What about
> bolts to the tranny or other things?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Just the bellhousing to block bolts. The pressure plate stays with
the flywheel and engine.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> What does it take to unbolt the short block from the frame/tranny. I know
> there are two engine mounts, one of which I have undone already. What about
> bolts to the tranny or other things?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill

William Oliveri

Ok, any "juice" going to come out? Do I need to drain any fluids (other
than engine oil and radiator water which have been done already)?

Thanks,

Bill

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:104f7bcag2gg498@corp.supernews.com...
> Well, there are a couple of options here.
>
> While the motor is out, you might consider checking out the trans and
tcase.
> If so, then the skip plate comes off and the whole mess comes out through
> the engine bay. Otherwise, you have to unbolt the motor from the
> bellhousing, I expect to find 8 ~ 10 bolts here, and leave the trans and
> tcase in place and just lift the motor out.
>
> The motor will be held in by the bellhousing bolts and the two motor
mounts.
> If you elect to pull the trans and tcase at the same time, then there is
one
> trans mount and 6 bolts on the skid plate. You will still have the
> bellhousing bolts, but they will be much easier to get to on the floor
than
> against the firewall.
>
> You know, you can unbolt the trans at the bell housing (4 bolts) and lift
> the bell housing and clutch out with the motor, then take the bellhousing
> off. That makes the most sense. It can be a pain in the *** to get the
input
> shaft of the trans to fit through the clutch while you are dropping the
> motor back in, but it is possible to do it. It is the inverse of putting
the
> trans back on while the engine is already in place. I could not get my
trans
> on, and I struggled with it for an hour or so, then my kid depressed the
> clutch and the trans jumped into place so fast I couldn't get my fingers
out
> of the way fast enough. I just needed that last half-inch (less, actually)
> and depressing the clutch pedal did the trick.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c285io$1o1cap$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > What does it take to unbolt the short block from the frame/tranny. I
know
> > there are two engine mounts, one of which I have undone already. What
> about
> > bolts to the tranny or other things?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:104f3nd5c68iddd@corp.supernews.com...
> > > What you really need is a buddy with a pick up truck.
> > >
> > > Use the truck to bring the cherry picker over to the apartment
complex,
> > pull
> > > the motor and drop it into the truck, and drag the picker away. It
> > shouldn't
> > > take more than about an hour to get this all done. You can pull all of
> the
> > > electrics and many of the bolts before the picker rolls in, and this
> will
> > > trim the exposure time with the manager.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c27vie$1psfv1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Ok guys, don't laugh. This is running through my head as a possible
> > plan.
> > > >
> > > > If I can get a collapsible engine hoist I think I could pull the
> engine
> > > > without my manager knowing the better. Then the question is to get
> the
> > > > block to the machinist. He is only a couple of miles away.
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking of getting a pull by hand cart to stick it on and
pull
> it
> > > out
> > > > of my complex covered up (like a wagon or something).
> > > >
> > > > I would need a cart strong enough to carry the short block and would
> > roll
> > > > freely over speed bumps etc.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone can recommend a cart that might work?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Billo
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

William Oliveri

Ok, any "juice" going to come out? Do I need to drain any fluids (other
than engine oil and radiator water which have been done already)?

Thanks,

Bill

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:104f7bcag2gg498@corp.supernews.com...
> Well, there are a couple of options here.
>
> While the motor is out, you might consider checking out the trans and
tcase.
> If so, then the skip plate comes off and the whole mess comes out through
> the engine bay. Otherwise, you have to unbolt the motor from the
> bellhousing, I expect to find 8 ~ 10 bolts here, and leave the trans and
> tcase in place and just lift the motor out.
>
> The motor will be held in by the bellhousing bolts and the two motor
mounts.
> If you elect to pull the trans and tcase at the same time, then there is
one
> trans mount and 6 bolts on the skid plate. You will still have the
> bellhousing bolts, but they will be much easier to get to on the floor
than
> against the firewall.
>
> You know, you can unbolt the trans at the bell housing (4 bolts) and lift
> the bell housing and clutch out with the motor, then take the bellhousing
> off. That makes the most sense. It can be a pain in the *** to get the
input
> shaft of the trans to fit through the clutch while you are dropping the
> motor back in, but it is possible to do it. It is the inverse of putting
the
> trans back on while the engine is already in place. I could not get my
trans
> on, and I struggled with it for an hour or so, then my kid depressed the
> clutch and the trans jumped into place so fast I couldn't get my fingers
out
> of the way fast enough. I just needed that last half-inch (less, actually)
> and depressing the clutch pedal did the trick.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c285io$1o1cap$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > What does it take to unbolt the short block from the frame/tranny. I
know
> > there are two engine mounts, one of which I have undone already. What
> about
> > bolts to the tranny or other things?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:104f3nd5c68iddd@corp.supernews.com...
> > > What you really need is a buddy with a pick up truck.
> > >
> > > Use the truck to bring the cherry picker over to the apartment
complex,
> > pull
> > > the motor and drop it into the truck, and drag the picker away. It
> > shouldn't
> > > take more than about an hour to get this all done. You can pull all of
> the
> > > electrics and many of the bolts before the picker rolls in, and this
> will
> > > trim the exposure time with the manager.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c27vie$1psfv1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Ok guys, don't laugh. This is running through my head as a possible
> > plan.
> > > >
> > > > If I can get a collapsible engine hoist I think I could pull the
> engine
> > > > without my manager knowing the better. Then the question is to get
> the
> > > > block to the machinist. He is only a couple of miles away.
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking of getting a pull by hand cart to stick it on and
pull
> it
> > > out
> > > > of my complex covered up (like a wagon or something).
> > > >
> > > > I would need a cart strong enough to carry the short block and would
> > roll
> > > > freely over speed bumps etc.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone can recommend a cart that might work?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Billo
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

William Oliveri

Ok, any "juice" going to come out? Do I need to drain any fluids (other
than engine oil and radiator water which have been done already)?

Thanks,

Bill

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:104f7bcag2gg498@corp.supernews.com...
> Well, there are a couple of options here.
>
> While the motor is out, you might consider checking out the trans and
tcase.
> If so, then the skip plate comes off and the whole mess comes out through
> the engine bay. Otherwise, you have to unbolt the motor from the
> bellhousing, I expect to find 8 ~ 10 bolts here, and leave the trans and
> tcase in place and just lift the motor out.
>
> The motor will be held in by the bellhousing bolts and the two motor
mounts.
> If you elect to pull the trans and tcase at the same time, then there is
one
> trans mount and 6 bolts on the skid plate. You will still have the
> bellhousing bolts, but they will be much easier to get to on the floor
than
> against the firewall.
>
> You know, you can unbolt the trans at the bell housing (4 bolts) and lift
> the bell housing and clutch out with the motor, then take the bellhousing
> off. That makes the most sense. It can be a pain in the *** to get the
input
> shaft of the trans to fit through the clutch while you are dropping the
> motor back in, but it is possible to do it. It is the inverse of putting
the
> trans back on while the engine is already in place. I could not get my
trans
> on, and I struggled with it for an hour or so, then my kid depressed the
> clutch and the trans jumped into place so fast I couldn't get my fingers
out
> of the way fast enough. I just needed that last half-inch (less, actually)
> and depressing the clutch pedal did the trick.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c285io$1o1cap$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > What does it take to unbolt the short block from the frame/tranny. I
know
> > there are two engine mounts, one of which I have undone already. What
> about
> > bolts to the tranny or other things?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:104f3nd5c68iddd@corp.supernews.com...
> > > What you really need is a buddy with a pick up truck.
> > >
> > > Use the truck to bring the cherry picker over to the apartment
complex,
> > pull
> > > the motor and drop it into the truck, and drag the picker away. It
> > shouldn't
> > > take more than about an hour to get this all done. You can pull all of
> the
> > > electrics and many of the bolts before the picker rolls in, and this
> will
> > > trim the exposure time with the manager.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c27vie$1psfv1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Ok guys, don't laugh. This is running through my head as a possible
> > plan.
> > > >
> > > > If I can get a collapsible engine hoist I think I could pull the
> engine
> > > > without my manager knowing the better. Then the question is to get
> the
> > > > block to the machinist. He is only a couple of miles away.
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking of getting a pull by hand cart to stick it on and
pull
> it
> > > out
> > > > of my complex covered up (like a wagon or something).
> > > >
> > > > I would need a cart strong enough to carry the short block and would
> > roll
> > > > freely over speed bumps etc.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone can recommend a cart that might work?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Billo
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Do you have an automatic transmission?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok, any "juice" going to come out? Do I need to drain any fluids (other
> than engine oil and radiator water which have been done already)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Do you have an automatic transmission?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok, any "juice" going to come out? Do I need to drain any fluids (other
> than engine oil and radiator water which have been done already)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Do you have an automatic transmission?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok, any "juice" going to come out? Do I need to drain any fluids (other
> than engine oil and radiator water which have been done already)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill