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Re: Oil prices got you down?
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> We don't have an oil, or gas shortage. We have a critical shortage of > refineries. Thank the EPA for that... Probably less the fault of the EPA and more the fault of environmental whackjobs. There would have been a nice shiny new refinery in California, but due to regulations, red-tape, and pure out and out bullshittery, they built it down to Mexico. One has had a fire, and one simply have to be shut down for maintenance. Then there is the switch from Diesel to home heating oil, and "winter grades" of fuel. But your correct, we need more refineries. We also need some price controls on gasoline. Just wait till the oil companies report profits this year. Prices now are simply pure greed. As for me, I'm just rolling things into single trips. No more just driving to a place to window shop. That and taking my lunch to work rather than going out for lunch. Heck, eating lunch alone costs $7-$10 depending on where you go around here. -- DougW |
Re: Oil prices got you down?
ambrin did pass the time by typing:
> We don't have an oil, or gas shortage. We have a critical shortage of > refineries. Thank the EPA for that... Probably less the fault of the EPA and more the fault of environmental whackjobs. There would have been a nice shiny new refinery in California, but due to regulations, red-tape, and pure out and out bullshittery, they built it down to Mexico. One has had a fire, and one simply have to be shut down for maintenance. Then there is the switch from Diesel to home heating oil, and "winter grades" of fuel. But your correct, we need more refineries. We also need some price controls on gasoline. Just wait till the oil companies report profits this year. Prices now are simply pure greed. As for me, I'm just rolling things into single trips. No more just driving to a place to window shop. That and taking my lunch to work rather than going out for lunch. Heck, eating lunch alone costs $7-$10 depending on where you go around here. -- DougW |
Re: Oil prices got you down?
ambrin did pass the time by typing:
> We don't have an oil, or gas shortage. We have a critical shortage of > refineries. Thank the EPA for that... Probably less the fault of the EPA and more the fault of environmental whackjobs. There would have been a nice shiny new refinery in California, but due to regulations, red-tape, and pure out and out bullshittery, they built it down to Mexico. One has had a fire, and one simply have to be shut down for maintenance. Then there is the switch from Diesel to home heating oil, and "winter grades" of fuel. But your correct, we need more refineries. We also need some price controls on gasoline. Just wait till the oil companies report profits this year. Prices now are simply pure greed. As for me, I'm just rolling things into single trips. No more just driving to a place to window shop. That and taking my lunch to work rather than going out for lunch. Heck, eating lunch alone costs $7-$10 depending on where you go around here. -- DougW |
Re: Oil prices got you down?
Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand. tim bur wrote: > lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher > demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our > vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt > that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3 > months of of causing a glut in the market > gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it > > Cherokee-Ltd wrote: > > >>From another thread that was veering off-topic... >> >>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon. >>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another >>thread. >>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business >> >>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on >>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for >>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon >>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still >>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California. >> >>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our >>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol". >> >>Let's keep things in perspective >>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42 >>gallons)... >> >>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the >>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25 >>cents a cup. >> >>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a >>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents. >> >>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9 >>cents. > > |
Re: Oil prices got you down?
Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand. tim bur wrote: > lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher > demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our > vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt > that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3 > months of of causing a glut in the market > gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it > > Cherokee-Ltd wrote: > > >>From another thread that was veering off-topic... >> >>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon. >>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another >>thread. >>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business >> >>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on >>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for >>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon >>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still >>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California. >> >>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our >>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol". >> >>Let's keep things in perspective >>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42 >>gallons)... >> >>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the >>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25 >>cents a cup. >> >>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a >>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents. >> >>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9 >>cents. > > |
Re: Oil prices got you down?
Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand. tim bur wrote: > lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher > demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our > vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt > that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3 > months of of causing a glut in the market > gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it > > Cherokee-Ltd wrote: > > >>From another thread that was veering off-topic... >> >>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon. >>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another >>thread. >>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business >> >>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on >>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for >>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon >>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still >>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California. >> >>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our >>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol". >> >>Let's keep things in perspective >>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42 >>gallons)... >> >>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the >>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25 >>cents a cup. >> >>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a >>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents. >> >>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9 >>cents. > > |
Re: Oil prices got you down?
Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand. tim bur wrote: > lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher > demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our > vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt > that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3 > months of of causing a glut in the market > gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it > > Cherokee-Ltd wrote: > > >>From another thread that was veering off-topic... >> >>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon. >>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another >>thread. >>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business >> >>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on >>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for >>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon >>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still >>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California. >> >>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our >>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol". >> >>Let's keep things in perspective >>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42 >>gallons)... >> >>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the >>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25 >>cents a cup. >> >>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a >>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents. >> >>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9 >>cents. > > |
Re: Oil prices got you down?
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DougW wrote: > We also need some price controls on gasoline. Just wait till the oil companies > report profits this year. Prices now are simply pure greed. "Futures market." Absent a shortage, fuel prices are now being driven by speculation in the futures markets and now that they've learned that they can get more than $60/bbl it ain't never gonna come back down. > > As for me, I'm just rolling things into single trips. No more just driving > to a place to window shop. That and taking my lunch to work rather than going > out for lunch. Heck, eating lunch alone costs $7-$10 depending on where you > go around here. > Good idea, but that does have a ripple effect in the economy. Your bagged lunch will show up as a loss in the local restaurant district, which means some hash-slinger won't buy a new car this year, which means the dealer doesn't buy a new house, the builder doesn't by a new TV, the vendor doesn't sent his kid to Swanky U and on and on. |
Re: Oil prices got you down?
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DougW wrote: > We also need some price controls on gasoline. Just wait till the oil companies > report profits this year. Prices now are simply pure greed. "Futures market." Absent a shortage, fuel prices are now being driven by speculation in the futures markets and now that they've learned that they can get more than $60/bbl it ain't never gonna come back down. > > As for me, I'm just rolling things into single trips. No more just driving > to a place to window shop. That and taking my lunch to work rather than going > out for lunch. Heck, eating lunch alone costs $7-$10 depending on where you > go around here. > Good idea, but that does have a ripple effect in the economy. Your bagged lunch will show up as a loss in the local restaurant district, which means some hash-slinger won't buy a new car this year, which means the dealer doesn't buy a new house, the builder doesn't by a new TV, the vendor doesn't sent his kid to Swanky U and on and on. |
Re: Oil prices got you down?
In-line responses.
DougW wrote: > We also need some price controls on gasoline. Just wait till the oil companies > report profits this year. Prices now are simply pure greed. "Futures market." Absent a shortage, fuel prices are now being driven by speculation in the futures markets and now that they've learned that they can get more than $60/bbl it ain't never gonna come back down. > > As for me, I'm just rolling things into single trips. No more just driving > to a place to window shop. That and taking my lunch to work rather than going > out for lunch. Heck, eating lunch alone costs $7-$10 depending on where you > go around here. > Good idea, but that does have a ripple effect in the economy. Your bagged lunch will show up as a loss in the local restaurant district, which means some hash-slinger won't buy a new car this year, which means the dealer doesn't buy a new house, the builder doesn't by a new TV, the vendor doesn't sent his kid to Swanky U and on and on. |
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