Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

Bill,

I am not sure which problem this is intended to solve. For me, the problem
is to assure a continued supply of petroleum and petroleum products, until
some whiz kid figures out how to make pure 2,2,4-trimethylpentane, out of
sh*t. If we want to do that, it is necessary to preserve what petroleum we
have, for a while at least. Opening up the tap isn't going to accomplish
that.

I thought that conservatives, were supposed to "conserve" stuff. I may be
confused.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Lee,
> There is an answer, kick the bleeding heart liberal, tree huggers
> out of government, let our oil companies build new refineries, cross
> drill into our lower states national reserves, open up Arctic National
> Wildlife Refuge, it has the largest estimated oil reserves in the world,
> and we'll have petroleum produces to cheap to meter, again.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> > Yup, exactly. His suggestion isn't any different than the "Gas Out"
> > chain e-mail that circulates from time to time, urging people to not buy
> > gas next week and Then We'll Teach `Em A Lesson They Won't Forget and
> > Bring the Bastards To Their Knees, Woo Hoo.
> >
> > So everyone doesn't buy gas next week, then everyone buys _twice_ as
> > much the next week. Oh, yeah, _that'll_ teach `em. Woo. Hoo.
> >
> > The fact is that America is built for the automobile. Few people
> > outside of a few habitable metropolitian areas live within walking
> > distance of a food store, fewer still live within walking distance to
> > their jobs. The few commuter rail systems that still exist serve only a
> > few areas and are under constant pressure to reduce their budgets and to
> > turn a profit -- which they will never be able to do. Middle class
> > people won't take busses, and even if they did they don't have enough
> > routes to serve but a tiny fraction of employers while their employees
> > live 20, 50 or 100 miles away. Freight and parcels must be there
> > tomorrow under the "just in time" system that most American companies
> > work under, so all but bulk raw material travels directly from source to
> > user by truck.
> >
> > The result is that we are locked into using cars, you can't live the
> > current lifestyle of the majority without one. Conservation efforts
> > such as hybrids won't really help in the short term because any drop in
> > consumption will be off-set by growth in consumption. Higher prices
> > won't reduce fuel consumption much except as a side effect of a
> > depressed economy, as disposable income is diverted away from consumer
> > goods and towards fuel costs.
> >
> > Do I have an answer? Nope. There's only so much fry oil to divert to
> > "bio-diesel" and until someone comes up with a way to manufacture
> > hydrogen or ethanol that doesn't take _more_ energy to produce than the
> > fuel's eventual yield neither one is a viable solution. And I still
> > drive my CJ and my Cherokee.
> >
> > Or, as someone on NPR recently opined: "We're gonna run out of
> > atmosphere before we run out of fossil fuels."

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:jU%Ke.84$P34.12@okepread07...
> ambrin did pass the time by typing:
> We also need some price controls on gasoline. Just wait till the oil
> companies
> report profits this year. Prices now are simply pure greed.

2005 2nd quarter profits:

Exxon-Mobil: $7.64 billion, 32% increase. The retail fuel sales portion of
the profit was $764 million in 2004. Same period 2005 increased to $2.2
billion, or about a 65% increase.

Royal Dutch Shell: $5.24 billion, 34% increase.

Full article at
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2163629.html

Is there any wonder oil companies are reaping record profits with W in
office?

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:jU%Ke.84$P34.12@okepread07...
> ambrin did pass the time by typing:
> We also need some price controls on gasoline. Just wait till the oil
> companies
> report profits this year. Prices now are simply pure greed.

2005 2nd quarter profits:

Exxon-Mobil: $7.64 billion, 32% increase. The retail fuel sales portion of
the profit was $764 million in 2004. Same period 2005 increased to $2.2
billion, or about a 65% increase.

Royal Dutch Shell: $5.24 billion, 34% increase.

Full article at
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2163629.html

Is there any wonder oil companies are reaping record profits with W in
office?

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:jU%Ke.84$P34.12@okepread07...
> ambrin did pass the time by typing:
> We also need some price controls on gasoline. Just wait till the oil
> companies
> report profits this year. Prices now are simply pure greed.

2005 2nd quarter profits:

Exxon-Mobil: $7.64 billion, 32% increase. The retail fuel sales portion of
the profit was $764 million in 2004. Same period 2005 increased to $2.2
billion, or about a 65% increase.

Royal Dutch Shell: $5.24 billion, 34% increase.

Full article at
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2163629.html

Is there any wonder oil companies are reaping record profits with W in
office?

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:jU%Ke.84$P34.12@okepread07...
> ambrin did pass the time by typing:
> We also need some price controls on gasoline. Just wait till the oil
> companies
> report profits this year. Prices now are simply pure greed.

2005 2nd quarter profits:

Exxon-Mobil: $7.64 billion, 32% increase. The retail fuel sales portion of
the profit was $764 million in 2004. Same period 2005 increased to $2.2
billion, or about a 65% increase.

Royal Dutch Shell: $5.24 billion, 34% increase.

Full article at
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2163629.html

Is there any wonder oil companies are reaping record profits with W in
office?

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

Except we're a dimension away from using gravity. So lets use the
the resources we have, until we gain that technology. Like if we had no
petroleum tomorrow, wouldn't that speed up that process? Besides oil is
a renewable resource, it just takes a little longer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I am not sure which problem this is intended to solve. For me, the problem
> is to assure a continued supply of petroleum and petroleum products, until
> some whiz kid figures out how to make pure 2,2,4-trimethylpentane, out of
> sh*t. If we want to do that, it is necessary to preserve what petroleum we
> have, for a while at least. Opening up the tap isn't going to accomplish
> that.
>
> I thought that conservatives, were supposed to "conserve" stuff. I may be
> confused.
>
> Earle

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

Except we're a dimension away from using gravity. So lets use the
the resources we have, until we gain that technology. Like if we had no
petroleum tomorrow, wouldn't that speed up that process? Besides oil is
a renewable resource, it just takes a little longer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I am not sure which problem this is intended to solve. For me, the problem
> is to assure a continued supply of petroleum and petroleum products, until
> some whiz kid figures out how to make pure 2,2,4-trimethylpentane, out of
> sh*t. If we want to do that, it is necessary to preserve what petroleum we
> have, for a while at least. Opening up the tap isn't going to accomplish
> that.
>
> I thought that conservatives, were supposed to "conserve" stuff. I may be
> confused.
>
> Earle

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

Except we're a dimension away from using gravity. So lets use the
the resources we have, until we gain that technology. Like if we had no
petroleum tomorrow, wouldn't that speed up that process? Besides oil is
a renewable resource, it just takes a little longer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I am not sure which problem this is intended to solve. For me, the problem
> is to assure a continued supply of petroleum and petroleum products, until
> some whiz kid figures out how to make pure 2,2,4-trimethylpentane, out of
> sh*t. If we want to do that, it is necessary to preserve what petroleum we
> have, for a while at least. Opening up the tap isn't going to accomplish
> that.
>
> I thought that conservatives, were supposed to "conserve" stuff. I may be
> confused.
>
> Earle

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

Except we're a dimension away from using gravity. So lets use the
the resources we have, until we gain that technology. Like if we had no
petroleum tomorrow, wouldn't that speed up that process? Besides oil is
a renewable resource, it just takes a little longer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I am not sure which problem this is intended to solve. For me, the problem
> is to assure a continued supply of petroleum and petroleum products, until
> some whiz kid figures out how to make pure 2,2,4-trimethylpentane, out of
> sh*t. If we want to do that, it is necessary to preserve what petroleum we
> have, for a while at least. Opening up the tap isn't going to accomplish
> that.
>
> I thought that conservatives, were supposed to "conserve" stuff. I may be
> confused.
>
> Earle

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

So buy oil stocks if it's such a money maker. LOL
You do know China almost bought Union 76, before Chevron stepped in
last week and saved them.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> 2005 2nd quarter profits:
>
> Exxon-Mobil: $7.64 billion, 32% increase. The retail fuel sales portion of
> the profit was $764 million in 2004. Same period 2005 increased to $2.2
> billion, or about a 65% increase.
>
> Royal Dutch Shell: $5.24 billion, 34% increase.
>
> Full article at
> http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2163629.html
>
> Is there any wonder oil companies are reaping record profits with W in
> office?