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The price of gasoline is rising by $3.60 a year?
Earle
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42FF5EAB.9283323E@cac.net...
> you are narrow sighted. u are not seeing the big picture
> your right the car u drive fills up the same and gets the same milage but
the price of gas at
> the beginning of the month is at least 30 cents cheaper then at the end of
the month so you do
> the math on that .that is why people are buying more gas to save that 3.00
bucs at the end of the
> month byTOPPING OFF THE TANK and don't say it doesn't happen i work at a
dealer and hear it daily
> from the customers coming in since we have a gas station across the street
that offers the lowest
> price in the township
>
> bllsht wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:14:21 -0400, tim bur <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
> >
> > >did you know driving at 55 verses going the same place driving 70 only
results in about a 10
> > >minute difference in a 200 mile trip there is a formula for this thats
given to each new
> > >driver going thru training in my area
> > >and i drive a 383 bigblock newport to work
> >
> > Check your math, Einstein....
> >
> > >talk to people u know and you will find that people fill the tanks on
monday and use up 1/4
> > >tank then drive right bac in and top off the tank thinking they are
going to save a few
> > >pennies. because gas goes up everyday, so demand goes up i see it
everyday and hear about it
> > >everyday
> >
> > Your logic is as flawed as your math. If I fill up once a day, or
> > once a month, my car gets the same fuel mileage. I'd say demand is
> > the same...
> >
> > >bllsht wrote:
> > >
> > >> Explain to us how buying 10 gallons of gas every 5 days will create
less demand
> > >> than buying 2 gallons every day. Why don't we all stop buying gas on
Mondays?
> > >> That'll kill demand won't it? Give me a break...
> > >>
> > >> I'll gladly pay whatever it takes to drive my gas guzzler 75 mph.
You can drive
> > >> your hybrid whatever speed you want, but I say ---- driving 55 mph.
> > >>
> > >> In message <42FBDE4A.C1D641E1@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus
reducing a higher
> > >> >demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow
down and keep our
> > >> >vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete
and cut down ashphalt
> > >> >that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil
comes down after 3
> > >> >months of of causing a glut in the market
> > >> > gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to
stockpile it
> > >> >
> > >> >Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> From another thread that was veering off-topic...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for
$1.50/gallon.
> > >> >> Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon
in another
> > >> >> thread.
> > >> >>
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most
countries on
> > >> >> the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L
Canadian for
> > >> >> diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid
$2.54/gallon
> > >> >> US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
> > >> >> $2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too
much for our
> > >> >> overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Let's keep things in perspective
> > >> >> In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
> > >> >> gallons)...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents
unlike the
> > >> >> thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade
for 25
> > >> >> cents a cup.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd
jump at a
> > >> >> chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19
cents.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude...
about 9
> > >> >> cents.
>
Earle
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42FF5EAB.9283323E@cac.net...
> you are narrow sighted. u are not seeing the big picture
> your right the car u drive fills up the same and gets the same milage but
the price of gas at
> the beginning of the month is at least 30 cents cheaper then at the end of
the month so you do
> the math on that .that is why people are buying more gas to save that 3.00
bucs at the end of the
> month byTOPPING OFF THE TANK and don't say it doesn't happen i work at a
dealer and hear it daily
> from the customers coming in since we have a gas station across the street
that offers the lowest
> price in the township
>
> bllsht wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:14:21 -0400, tim bur <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
> >
> > >did you know driving at 55 verses going the same place driving 70 only
results in about a 10
> > >minute difference in a 200 mile trip there is a formula for this thats
given to each new
> > >driver going thru training in my area
> > >and i drive a 383 bigblock newport to work
> >
> > Check your math, Einstein....
> >
> > >talk to people u know and you will find that people fill the tanks on
monday and use up 1/4
> > >tank then drive right bac in and top off the tank thinking they are
going to save a few
> > >pennies. because gas goes up everyday, so demand goes up i see it
everyday and hear about it
> > >everyday
> >
> > Your logic is as flawed as your math. If I fill up once a day, or
> > once a month, my car gets the same fuel mileage. I'd say demand is
> > the same...
> >
> > >bllsht wrote:
> > >
> > >> Explain to us how buying 10 gallons of gas every 5 days will create
less demand
> > >> than buying 2 gallons every day. Why don't we all stop buying gas on
Mondays?
> > >> That'll kill demand won't it? Give me a break...
> > >>
> > >> I'll gladly pay whatever it takes to drive my gas guzzler 75 mph.
You can drive
> > >> your hybrid whatever speed you want, but I say ---- driving 55 mph.
> > >>
> > >> In message <42FBDE4A.C1D641E1@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus
reducing a higher
> > >> >demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow
down and keep our
> > >> >vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete
and cut down ashphalt
> > >> >that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil
comes down after 3
> > >> >months of of causing a glut in the market
> > >> > gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to
stockpile it
> > >> >
> > >> >Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> From another thread that was veering off-topic...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for
$1.50/gallon.
> > >> >> Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon
in another
> > >> >> thread.
> > >> >>
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most
countries on
> > >> >> the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L
Canadian for
> > >> >> diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid
$2.54/gallon
> > >> >> US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
> > >> >> $2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too
much for our
> > >> >> overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Let's keep things in perspective
> > >> >> In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
> > >> >> gallons)...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents
unlike the
> > >> >> thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade
for 25
> > >> >> cents a cup.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd
jump at a
> > >> >> chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19
cents.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude...
about 9
> > >> >> cents.
>
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Posts: n/a
The price of gasoline is rising by $3.60 a year?
Earle
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42FF5EAB.9283323E@cac.net...
> you are narrow sighted. u are not seeing the big picture
> your right the car u drive fills up the same and gets the same milage but
the price of gas at
> the beginning of the month is at least 30 cents cheaper then at the end of
the month so you do
> the math on that .that is why people are buying more gas to save that 3.00
bucs at the end of the
> month byTOPPING OFF THE TANK and don't say it doesn't happen i work at a
dealer and hear it daily
> from the customers coming in since we have a gas station across the street
that offers the lowest
> price in the township
>
> bllsht wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:14:21 -0400, tim bur <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
> >
> > >did you know driving at 55 verses going the same place driving 70 only
results in about a 10
> > >minute difference in a 200 mile trip there is a formula for this thats
given to each new
> > >driver going thru training in my area
> > >and i drive a 383 bigblock newport to work
> >
> > Check your math, Einstein....
> >
> > >talk to people u know and you will find that people fill the tanks on
monday and use up 1/4
> > >tank then drive right bac in and top off the tank thinking they are
going to save a few
> > >pennies. because gas goes up everyday, so demand goes up i see it
everyday and hear about it
> > >everyday
> >
> > Your logic is as flawed as your math. If I fill up once a day, or
> > once a month, my car gets the same fuel mileage. I'd say demand is
> > the same...
> >
> > >bllsht wrote:
> > >
> > >> Explain to us how buying 10 gallons of gas every 5 days will create
less demand
> > >> than buying 2 gallons every day. Why don't we all stop buying gas on
Mondays?
> > >> That'll kill demand won't it? Give me a break...
> > >>
> > >> I'll gladly pay whatever it takes to drive my gas guzzler 75 mph.
You can drive
> > >> your hybrid whatever speed you want, but I say ---- driving 55 mph.
> > >>
> > >> In message <42FBDE4A.C1D641E1@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus
reducing a higher
> > >> >demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow
down and keep our
> > >> >vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete
and cut down ashphalt
> > >> >that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil
comes down after 3
> > >> >months of of causing a glut in the market
> > >> > gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to
stockpile it
> > >> >
> > >> >Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> From another thread that was veering off-topic...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for
$1.50/gallon.
> > >> >> Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon
in another
> > >> >> thread.
> > >> >>
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most
countries on
> > >> >> the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L
Canadian for
> > >> >> diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid
$2.54/gallon
> > >> >> US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
> > >> >> $2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too
much for our
> > >> >> overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Let's keep things in perspective
> > >> >> In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
> > >> >> gallons)...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents
unlike the
> > >> >> thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade
for 25
> > >> >> cents a cup.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd
jump at a
> > >> >> chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19
cents.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude...
about 9
> > >> >> cents.
>
Earle
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42FF5EAB.9283323E@cac.net...
> you are narrow sighted. u are not seeing the big picture
> your right the car u drive fills up the same and gets the same milage but
the price of gas at
> the beginning of the month is at least 30 cents cheaper then at the end of
the month so you do
> the math on that .that is why people are buying more gas to save that 3.00
bucs at the end of the
> month byTOPPING OFF THE TANK and don't say it doesn't happen i work at a
dealer and hear it daily
> from the customers coming in since we have a gas station across the street
that offers the lowest
> price in the township
>
> bllsht wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:14:21 -0400, tim bur <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
> >
> > >did you know driving at 55 verses going the same place driving 70 only
results in about a 10
> > >minute difference in a 200 mile trip there is a formula for this thats
given to each new
> > >driver going thru training in my area
> > >and i drive a 383 bigblock newport to work
> >
> > Check your math, Einstein....
> >
> > >talk to people u know and you will find that people fill the tanks on
monday and use up 1/4
> > >tank then drive right bac in and top off the tank thinking they are
going to save a few
> > >pennies. because gas goes up everyday, so demand goes up i see it
everyday and hear about it
> > >everyday
> >
> > Your logic is as flawed as your math. If I fill up once a day, or
> > once a month, my car gets the same fuel mileage. I'd say demand is
> > the same...
> >
> > >bllsht wrote:
> > >
> > >> Explain to us how buying 10 gallons of gas every 5 days will create
less demand
> > >> than buying 2 gallons every day. Why don't we all stop buying gas on
Mondays?
> > >> That'll kill demand won't it? Give me a break...
> > >>
> > >> I'll gladly pay whatever it takes to drive my gas guzzler 75 mph.
You can drive
> > >> your hybrid whatever speed you want, but I say ---- driving 55 mph.
> > >>
> > >> In message <42FBDE4A.C1D641E1@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus
reducing a higher
> > >> >demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow
down and keep our
> > >> >vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete
and cut down ashphalt
> > >> >that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil
comes down after 3
> > >> >months of of causing a glut in the market
> > >> > gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to
stockpile it
> > >> >
> > >> >Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> From another thread that was veering off-topic...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for
$1.50/gallon.
> > >> >> Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon
in another
> > >> >> thread.
> > >> >>
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most
countries on
> > >> >> the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L
Canadian for
> > >> >> diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid
$2.54/gallon
> > >> >> US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
> > >> >> $2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too
much for our
> > >> >> overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Let's keep things in perspective
> > >> >> In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
> > >> >> gallons)...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents
unlike the
> > >> >> thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade
for 25
> > >> >> cents a cup.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd
jump at a
> > >> >> chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19
cents.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude...
about 9
> > >> >> cents.
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
The price of gasoline is rising by $3.60 a year?
Earle
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42FF5EAB.9283323E@cac.net...
> you are narrow sighted. u are not seeing the big picture
> your right the car u drive fills up the same and gets the same milage but
the price of gas at
> the beginning of the month is at least 30 cents cheaper then at the end of
the month so you do
> the math on that .that is why people are buying more gas to save that 3.00
bucs at the end of the
> month byTOPPING OFF THE TANK and don't say it doesn't happen i work at a
dealer and hear it daily
> from the customers coming in since we have a gas station across the street
that offers the lowest
> price in the township
>
> bllsht wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:14:21 -0400, tim bur <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
> >
> > >did you know driving at 55 verses going the same place driving 70 only
results in about a 10
> > >minute difference in a 200 mile trip there is a formula for this thats
given to each new
> > >driver going thru training in my area
> > >and i drive a 383 bigblock newport to work
> >
> > Check your math, Einstein....
> >
> > >talk to people u know and you will find that people fill the tanks on
monday and use up 1/4
> > >tank then drive right bac in and top off the tank thinking they are
going to save a few
> > >pennies. because gas goes up everyday, so demand goes up i see it
everyday and hear about it
> > >everyday
> >
> > Your logic is as flawed as your math. If I fill up once a day, or
> > once a month, my car gets the same fuel mileage. I'd say demand is
> > the same...
> >
> > >bllsht wrote:
> > >
> > >> Explain to us how buying 10 gallons of gas every 5 days will create
less demand
> > >> than buying 2 gallons every day. Why don't we all stop buying gas on
Mondays?
> > >> That'll kill demand won't it? Give me a break...
> > >>
> > >> I'll gladly pay whatever it takes to drive my gas guzzler 75 mph.
You can drive
> > >> your hybrid whatever speed you want, but I say ---- driving 55 mph.
> > >>
> > >> In message <42FBDE4A.C1D641E1@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus
reducing a higher
> > >> >demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow
down and keep our
> > >> >vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete
and cut down ashphalt
> > >> >that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil
comes down after 3
> > >> >months of of causing a glut in the market
> > >> > gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to
stockpile it
> > >> >
> > >> >Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> From another thread that was veering off-topic...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for
$1.50/gallon.
> > >> >> Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon
in another
> > >> >> thread.
> > >> >>
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most
countries on
> > >> >> the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L
Canadian for
> > >> >> diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid
$2.54/gallon
> > >> >> US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
> > >> >> $2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too
much for our
> > >> >> overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Let's keep things in perspective
> > >> >> In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
> > >> >> gallons)...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents
unlike the
> > >> >> thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade
for 25
> > >> >> cents a cup.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd
jump at a
> > >> >> chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19
cents.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude...
about 9
> > >> >> cents.
>
Earle
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42FF5EAB.9283323E@cac.net...
> you are narrow sighted. u are not seeing the big picture
> your right the car u drive fills up the same and gets the same milage but
the price of gas at
> the beginning of the month is at least 30 cents cheaper then at the end of
the month so you do
> the math on that .that is why people are buying more gas to save that 3.00
bucs at the end of the
> month byTOPPING OFF THE TANK and don't say it doesn't happen i work at a
dealer and hear it daily
> from the customers coming in since we have a gas station across the street
that offers the lowest
> price in the township
>
> bllsht wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:14:21 -0400, tim bur <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
> >
> > >did you know driving at 55 verses going the same place driving 70 only
results in about a 10
> > >minute difference in a 200 mile trip there is a formula for this thats
given to each new
> > >driver going thru training in my area
> > >and i drive a 383 bigblock newport to work
> >
> > Check your math, Einstein....
> >
> > >talk to people u know and you will find that people fill the tanks on
monday and use up 1/4
> > >tank then drive right bac in and top off the tank thinking they are
going to save a few
> > >pennies. because gas goes up everyday, so demand goes up i see it
everyday and hear about it
> > >everyday
> >
> > Your logic is as flawed as your math. If I fill up once a day, or
> > once a month, my car gets the same fuel mileage. I'd say demand is
> > the same...
> >
> > >bllsht wrote:
> > >
> > >> Explain to us how buying 10 gallons of gas every 5 days will create
less demand
> > >> than buying 2 gallons every day. Why don't we all stop buying gas on
Mondays?
> > >> That'll kill demand won't it? Give me a break...
> > >>
> > >> I'll gladly pay whatever it takes to drive my gas guzzler 75 mph.
You can drive
> > >> your hybrid whatever speed you want, but I say ---- driving 55 mph.
> > >>
> > >> In message <42FBDE4A.C1D641E1@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus
reducing a higher
> > >> >demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow
down and keep our
> > >> >vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete
and cut down ashphalt
> > >> >that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil
comes down after 3
> > >> >months of of causing a glut in the market
> > >> > gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to
stockpile it
> > >> >
> > >> >Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> From another thread that was veering off-topic...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for
$1.50/gallon.
> > >> >> Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon
in another
> > >> >> thread.
> > >> >>
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most
countries on
> > >> >> the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L
Canadian for
> > >> >> diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid
$2.54/gallon
> > >> >> US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
> > >> >> $2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too
much for our
> > >> >> overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Let's keep things in perspective
> > >> >> In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
> > >> >> gallons)...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents
unlike the
> > >> >> thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade
for 25
> > >> >> cents a cup.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd
jump at a
> > >> >> chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19
cents.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude...
about 9
> > >> >> cents.
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
I realize my advancing age sometimes clouds my memory..... but just who
instigated the First Gulf War?
Didn't a coalition including most of the middle eastern neighboring
countries fight against a despotic dictator who threatened the entire region
and had already proven the ability and willingness to use chemical weapons
as well as other WMDs?
Didn't this same despot terrorize another middle eastern country, who was
not in the coalition or threaten it in any way, and then attack it with
missiles he claimed might be carrying WMDs killing innocent men, women, and
children?
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8radnXjSzfB7q2LfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually *were*
> taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never actually tried,
> the Iran war notwithstanding.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42FE88C8.8DBD8C42@***.net...
>> I'm glad the Greatest Generation, didn't think that way about
>> Germany and Japan.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> larry wrote:
>>>
>>> A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the conservatives
>>> have done since they have been in power.
>>>
>>> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it. We have frightened
>>> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
>>> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
>>> delivering them just about anywhere.
>>>
>>> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.
>>>
>>> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling someone
>>> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)
>>>
>>> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.
>>>
>>> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about anyone.
>>>
>>> How many jobs now have been outsourced?
>>>
>>> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
>>> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)
>>>
>>> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>>>
>>> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would much
>>> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that is!)
>>>
>>> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives thinks
>>> they can kick anyone's butt.
>>>
>>> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in the
>>> blanks.
>>>
>>> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and organic
>>> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when I
>>> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I want
>>> to hug. ;^)
>>>
>>> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization can
>>> do.
>>>
>>> Larry
>
>
instigated the First Gulf War?
Didn't a coalition including most of the middle eastern neighboring
countries fight against a despotic dictator who threatened the entire region
and had already proven the ability and willingness to use chemical weapons
as well as other WMDs?
Didn't this same despot terrorize another middle eastern country, who was
not in the coalition or threaten it in any way, and then attack it with
missiles he claimed might be carrying WMDs killing innocent men, women, and
children?
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8radnXjSzfB7q2LfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually *were*
> taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never actually tried,
> the Iran war notwithstanding.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42FE88C8.8DBD8C42@***.net...
>> I'm glad the Greatest Generation, didn't think that way about
>> Germany and Japan.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> larry wrote:
>>>
>>> A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the conservatives
>>> have done since they have been in power.
>>>
>>> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it. We have frightened
>>> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
>>> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
>>> delivering them just about anywhere.
>>>
>>> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.
>>>
>>> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling someone
>>> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)
>>>
>>> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.
>>>
>>> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about anyone.
>>>
>>> How many jobs now have been outsourced?
>>>
>>> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
>>> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)
>>>
>>> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>>>
>>> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would much
>>> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that is!)
>>>
>>> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives thinks
>>> they can kick anyone's butt.
>>>
>>> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in the
>>> blanks.
>>>
>>> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and organic
>>> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when I
>>> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I want
>>> to hug. ;^)
>>>
>>> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization can
>>> do.
>>>
>>> Larry
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
I realize my advancing age sometimes clouds my memory..... but just who
instigated the First Gulf War?
Didn't a coalition including most of the middle eastern neighboring
countries fight against a despotic dictator who threatened the entire region
and had already proven the ability and willingness to use chemical weapons
as well as other WMDs?
Didn't this same despot terrorize another middle eastern country, who was
not in the coalition or threaten it in any way, and then attack it with
missiles he claimed might be carrying WMDs killing innocent men, women, and
children?
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8radnXjSzfB7q2LfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually *were*
> taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never actually tried,
> the Iran war notwithstanding.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42FE88C8.8DBD8C42@***.net...
>> I'm glad the Greatest Generation, didn't think that way about
>> Germany and Japan.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> larry wrote:
>>>
>>> A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the conservatives
>>> have done since they have been in power.
>>>
>>> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it. We have frightened
>>> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
>>> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
>>> delivering them just about anywhere.
>>>
>>> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.
>>>
>>> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling someone
>>> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)
>>>
>>> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.
>>>
>>> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about anyone.
>>>
>>> How many jobs now have been outsourced?
>>>
>>> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
>>> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)
>>>
>>> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>>>
>>> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would much
>>> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that is!)
>>>
>>> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives thinks
>>> they can kick anyone's butt.
>>>
>>> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in the
>>> blanks.
>>>
>>> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and organic
>>> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when I
>>> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I want
>>> to hug. ;^)
>>>
>>> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization can
>>> do.
>>>
>>> Larry
>
>
instigated the First Gulf War?
Didn't a coalition including most of the middle eastern neighboring
countries fight against a despotic dictator who threatened the entire region
and had already proven the ability and willingness to use chemical weapons
as well as other WMDs?
Didn't this same despot terrorize another middle eastern country, who was
not in the coalition or threaten it in any way, and then attack it with
missiles he claimed might be carrying WMDs killing innocent men, women, and
children?
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8radnXjSzfB7q2LfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually *were*
> taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never actually tried,
> the Iran war notwithstanding.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42FE88C8.8DBD8C42@***.net...
>> I'm glad the Greatest Generation, didn't think that way about
>> Germany and Japan.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> larry wrote:
>>>
>>> A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the conservatives
>>> have done since they have been in power.
>>>
>>> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it. We have frightened
>>> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
>>> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
>>> delivering them just about anywhere.
>>>
>>> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.
>>>
>>> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling someone
>>> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)
>>>
>>> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.
>>>
>>> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about anyone.
>>>
>>> How many jobs now have been outsourced?
>>>
>>> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
>>> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)
>>>
>>> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>>>
>>> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would much
>>> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that is!)
>>>
>>> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives thinks
>>> they can kick anyone's butt.
>>>
>>> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in the
>>> blanks.
>>>
>>> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and organic
>>> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when I
>>> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I want
>>> to hug. ;^)
>>>
>>> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization can
>>> do.
>>>
>>> Larry
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
I realize my advancing age sometimes clouds my memory..... but just who
instigated the First Gulf War?
Didn't a coalition including most of the middle eastern neighboring
countries fight against a despotic dictator who threatened the entire region
and had already proven the ability and willingness to use chemical weapons
as well as other WMDs?
Didn't this same despot terrorize another middle eastern country, who was
not in the coalition or threaten it in any way, and then attack it with
missiles he claimed might be carrying WMDs killing innocent men, women, and
children?
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8radnXjSzfB7q2LfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually *were*
> taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never actually tried,
> the Iran war notwithstanding.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42FE88C8.8DBD8C42@***.net...
>> I'm glad the Greatest Generation, didn't think that way about
>> Germany and Japan.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> larry wrote:
>>>
>>> A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the conservatives
>>> have done since they have been in power.
>>>
>>> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it. We have frightened
>>> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
>>> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
>>> delivering them just about anywhere.
>>>
>>> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.
>>>
>>> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling someone
>>> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)
>>>
>>> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.
>>>
>>> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about anyone.
>>>
>>> How many jobs now have been outsourced?
>>>
>>> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
>>> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)
>>>
>>> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>>>
>>> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would much
>>> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that is!)
>>>
>>> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives thinks
>>> they can kick anyone's butt.
>>>
>>> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in the
>>> blanks.
>>>
>>> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and organic
>>> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when I
>>> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I want
>>> to hug. ;^)
>>>
>>> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization can
>>> do.
>>>
>>> Larry
>
>
instigated the First Gulf War?
Didn't a coalition including most of the middle eastern neighboring
countries fight against a despotic dictator who threatened the entire region
and had already proven the ability and willingness to use chemical weapons
as well as other WMDs?
Didn't this same despot terrorize another middle eastern country, who was
not in the coalition or threaten it in any way, and then attack it with
missiles he claimed might be carrying WMDs killing innocent men, women, and
children?
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8radnXjSzfB7q2LfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually *were*
> taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never actually tried,
> the Iran war notwithstanding.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42FE88C8.8DBD8C42@***.net...
>> I'm glad the Greatest Generation, didn't think that way about
>> Germany and Japan.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> larry wrote:
>>>
>>> A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the conservatives
>>> have done since they have been in power.
>>>
>>> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it. We have frightened
>>> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
>>> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
>>> delivering them just about anywhere.
>>>
>>> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.
>>>
>>> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling someone
>>> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)
>>>
>>> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.
>>>
>>> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about anyone.
>>>
>>> How many jobs now have been outsourced?
>>>
>>> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
>>> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)
>>>
>>> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>>>
>>> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would much
>>> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that is!)
>>>
>>> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives thinks
>>> they can kick anyone's butt.
>>>
>>> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in the
>>> blanks.
>>>
>>> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and organic
>>> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when I
>>> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I want
>>> to hug. ;^)
>>>
>>> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization can
>>> do.
>>>
>>> Larry
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
I realize my advancing age sometimes clouds my memory..... but just who
instigated the First Gulf War?
Didn't a coalition including most of the middle eastern neighboring
countries fight against a despotic dictator who threatened the entire region
and had already proven the ability and willingness to use chemical weapons
as well as other WMDs?
Didn't this same despot terrorize another middle eastern country, who was
not in the coalition or threaten it in any way, and then attack it with
missiles he claimed might be carrying WMDs killing innocent men, women, and
children?
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8radnXjSzfB7q2LfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually *were*
> taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never actually tried,
> the Iran war notwithstanding.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42FE88C8.8DBD8C42@***.net...
>> I'm glad the Greatest Generation, didn't think that way about
>> Germany and Japan.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> larry wrote:
>>>
>>> A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the conservatives
>>> have done since they have been in power.
>>>
>>> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it. We have frightened
>>> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
>>> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
>>> delivering them just about anywhere.
>>>
>>> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.
>>>
>>> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling someone
>>> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)
>>>
>>> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.
>>>
>>> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about anyone.
>>>
>>> How many jobs now have been outsourced?
>>>
>>> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
>>> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)
>>>
>>> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>>>
>>> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would much
>>> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that is!)
>>>
>>> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives thinks
>>> they can kick anyone's butt.
>>>
>>> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in the
>>> blanks.
>>>
>>> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and organic
>>> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when I
>>> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I want
>>> to hug. ;^)
>>>
>>> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization can
>>> do.
>>>
>>> Larry
>
>
instigated the First Gulf War?
Didn't a coalition including most of the middle eastern neighboring
countries fight against a despotic dictator who threatened the entire region
and had already proven the ability and willingness to use chemical weapons
as well as other WMDs?
Didn't this same despot terrorize another middle eastern country, who was
not in the coalition or threaten it in any way, and then attack it with
missiles he claimed might be carrying WMDs killing innocent men, women, and
children?
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8radnXjSzfB7q2LfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually *were*
> taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never actually tried,
> the Iran war notwithstanding.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42FE88C8.8DBD8C42@***.net...
>> I'm glad the Greatest Generation, didn't think that way about
>> Germany and Japan.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> larry wrote:
>>>
>>> A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the conservatives
>>> have done since they have been in power.
>>>
>>> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it. We have frightened
>>> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
>>> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
>>> delivering them just about anywhere.
>>>
>>> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.
>>>
>>> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling someone
>>> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)
>>>
>>> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.
>>>
>>> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about anyone.
>>>
>>> How many jobs now have been outsourced?
>>>
>>> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
>>> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)
>>>
>>> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>>>
>>> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would much
>>> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that is!)
>>>
>>> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives thinks
>>> they can kick anyone's butt.
>>>
>>> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in the
>>> blanks.
>>>
>>> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and organic
>>> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when I
>>> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I want
>>> to hug. ;^)
>>>
>>> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization can
>>> do.
>>>
>>> Larry
>
>
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What about the recent theory that the affluent slowly poisoned themselves
via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of immoderate
> greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the
> destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as time
> or
> accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> yielded
> to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and
> obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed we
> should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long." [Gibbon,
> Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B. Bury
> (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
>
> In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as the wolf
> at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another 500
> years
> ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
>> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a civilization is
>> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
>> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked a
>> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained their
>> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
>>
>> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got fat and
>> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> powerhouse
>> that it was under Julius Caesar.
>
>
via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of immoderate
> greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the
> destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as time
> or
> accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> yielded
> to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and
> obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed we
> should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long." [Gibbon,
> Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B. Bury
> (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
>
> In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as the wolf
> at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another 500
> years
> ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
>> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a civilization is
>> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
>> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked a
>> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained their
>> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
>>
>> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got fat and
>> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> powerhouse
>> that it was under Julius Caesar.
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
What about the recent theory that the affluent slowly poisoned themselves
via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of immoderate
> greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the
> destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as time
> or
> accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> yielded
> to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and
> obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed we
> should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long." [Gibbon,
> Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B. Bury
> (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
>
> In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as the wolf
> at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another 500
> years
> ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
>> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a civilization is
>> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
>> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked a
>> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained their
>> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
>>
>> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got fat and
>> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> powerhouse
>> that it was under Julius Caesar.
>
>
via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of immoderate
> greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the
> destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as time
> or
> accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> yielded
> to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and
> obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed we
> should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long." [Gibbon,
> Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B. Bury
> (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
>
> In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as the wolf
> at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another 500
> years
> ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
>> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a civilization is
>> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
>> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked a
>> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained their
>> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
>>
>> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got fat and
>> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> powerhouse
>> that it was under Julius Caesar.
>
>
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What about the recent theory that the affluent slowly poisoned themselves
via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of immoderate
> greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the
> destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as time
> or
> accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> yielded
> to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and
> obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed we
> should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long." [Gibbon,
> Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B. Bury
> (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
>
> In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as the wolf
> at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another 500
> years
> ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
>> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a civilization is
>> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
>> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked a
>> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained their
>> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
>>
>> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got fat and
>> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> powerhouse
>> that it was under Julius Caesar.
>
>
via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of immoderate
> greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the
> destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as time
> or
> accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> yielded
> to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and
> obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed we
> should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long." [Gibbon,
> Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B. Bury
> (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
>
> In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as the wolf
> at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another 500
> years
> ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
>> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a civilization is
>> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
>> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked a
>> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained their
>> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
>>
>> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got fat and
>> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> powerhouse
>> that it was under Julius Caesar.
>
>


