I'm glad the Greatest Generation, didn't think that way about
Germany and Japan.
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larry wrote:
>
> A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the conservatives
> have done since they have been in power.
>
> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it. We have frightened
> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
> delivering them just about anywhere.
>
> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.
>
> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling someone
> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)
>
> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.
>
> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about anyone.
>
> How many jobs now have been outsourced?
>
> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)
>
> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>
> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would much
> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that is!)
>
> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives thinks
> they can kick anyone's butt.
>
> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in the
> blanks.
>
> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and organic
> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when I
> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I want
> to hug. ;^)
>
> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization can
> do.
>
> Larry

 

>A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the conservatives
> have done since they have been in power.
>
> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it.

No, we've won a war and have trouble pinning down the insurgents. Remember
that the regime we went to war with is no longer in power. We're no longer
fighting them, but outside forces attempting to thwart our efforts. There is
a huge difference.

BTW, they had a nice winning strategy when the went into Rowanda. I can
vividly remember seeing the marines being met by CNN camera crews while they
made an amphibious landing. Now how did that leak out? They looked
bewildered...

> We have frightened
> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
> delivering them just about anywhere.

They should be frightened, and we should make them next if they continue.

> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.

Lots of talk, but mostly fear. China will put them in check if they get too
hostile. They're too close and have too much to lose...

> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling someone
> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)

Before I've ever been in a fight, I felt it always made my job easier
taunting the victim. Bush is a smart man.

> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.

Who ever said they were a MAJOR world power? They're only suspected as being
powerful. We don't yet know. BTW, wasn't China's nuclear threat under the
Clinton era?

> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about anyone.

And the liberals and conservatives alike want it that way. Try and shut them
down and watch both sides come at you for it.

> How many jobs now have been outsourced?

Good ole' Clinton signed NAFTA, opening the flood gates.

> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)

Oil companies had little input on the growing demand for oil in China.

> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>
> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would much
> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that is!)
>
> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives thinks
> they can kick anyone's butt.

And you think this country can't? Do you feel Hanoi Jane was a traitor or a
hero? Just curious...

> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in the
> blanks.
>
> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and organic
> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when I
> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I want
> to hug. ;^)

A tree hugger? That explains it!

> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization can
> do.

Liberalism and softness has led to the decline of many a civilization. Don't
let it happen to the US. Stay with what got us here and it'll keep giving it
to us. Alter the course, and we're headed in the wrong direction.

 

>A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the conservatives
> have done since they have been in power.
>
> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it.

No, we've won a war and have trouble pinning down the insurgents. Remember
that the regime we went to war with is no longer in power. We're no longer
fighting them, but outside forces attempting to thwart our efforts. There is
a huge difference.

BTW, they had a nice winning strategy when the went into Rowanda. I can
vividly remember seeing the marines being met by CNN camera crews while they
made an amphibious landing. Now how did that leak out? They looked
bewildered...

> We have frightened
> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
> delivering them just about anywhere.

They should be frightened, and we should make them next if they continue.

> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.

Lots of talk, but mostly fear. China will put them in check if they get too
hostile. They're too close and have too much to lose...

> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling someone
> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)

Before I've ever been in a fight, I felt it always made my job easier
taunting the victim. Bush is a smart man.

> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.

Who ever said they were a MAJOR world power? They're only suspected as being
powerful. We don't yet know. BTW, wasn't China's nuclear threat under the
Clinton era?

> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about anyone.

And the liberals and conservatives alike want it that way. Try and shut them
down and watch both sides come at you for it.

> How many jobs now have been outsourced?

Good ole' Clinton signed NAFTA, opening the flood gates.

> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)

Oil companies had little input on the growing demand for oil in China.

> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>
> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would much
> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that is!)
>
> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives thinks
> they can kick anyone's butt.

And you think this country can't? Do you feel Hanoi Jane was a traitor or a
hero? Just curious...

> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in the
> blanks.
>
> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and organic
> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when I
> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I want
> to hug. ;^)

A tree hugger? That explains it!

> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization can
> do.

Liberalism and softness has led to the decline of many a civilization. Don't
let it happen to the US. Stay with what got us here and it'll keep giving it
to us. Alter the course, and we're headed in the wrong direction.

 

>A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the conservatives
> have done since they have been in power.
>
> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it.

No, we've won a war and have trouble pinning down the insurgents. Remember
that the regime we went to war with is no longer in power. We're no longer
fighting them, but outside forces attempting to thwart our efforts. There is
a huge difference.

BTW, they had a nice winning strategy when the went into Rowanda. I can
vividly remember seeing the marines being met by CNN camera crews while they
made an amphibious landing. Now how did that leak out? They looked
bewildered...

> We have frightened
> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
> delivering them just about anywhere.

They should be frightened, and we should make them next if they continue.

> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.

Lots of talk, but mostly fear. China will put them in check if they get too
hostile. They're too close and have too much to lose...

> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling someone
> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)

Before I've ever been in a fight, I felt it always made my job easier
taunting the victim. Bush is a smart man.

> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.

Who ever said they were a MAJOR world power? They're only suspected as being
powerful. We don't yet know. BTW, wasn't China's nuclear threat under the
Clinton era?

> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about anyone.

And the liberals and conservatives alike want it that way. Try and shut them
down and watch both sides come at you for it.

> How many jobs now have been outsourced?

Good ole' Clinton signed NAFTA, opening the flood gates.

> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)

Oil companies had little input on the growing demand for oil in China.

> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>
> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would much
> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that is!)
>
> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives thinks
> they can kick anyone's butt.

And you think this country can't? Do you feel Hanoi Jane was a traitor or a
hero? Just curious...

> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in the
> blanks.
>
> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and organic
> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when I
> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I want
> to hug. ;^)

A tree hugger? That explains it!

> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization can
> do.

Liberalism and softness has led to the decline of many a civilization. Don't
let it happen to the US. Stay with what got us here and it'll keep giving it
to us. Alter the course, and we're headed in the wrong direction.

 

>A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the conservatives
> have done since they have been in power.
>
> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it.

No, we've won a war and have trouble pinning down the insurgents. Remember
that the regime we went to war with is no longer in power. We're no longer
fighting them, but outside forces attempting to thwart our efforts. There is
a huge difference.

BTW, they had a nice winning strategy when the went into Rowanda. I can
vividly remember seeing the marines being met by CNN camera crews while they
made an amphibious landing. Now how did that leak out? They looked
bewildered...

> We have frightened
> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
> delivering them just about anywhere.

They should be frightened, and we should make them next if they continue.

> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.

Lots of talk, but mostly fear. China will put them in check if they get too
hostile. They're too close and have too much to lose...

> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling someone
> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)

Before I've ever been in a fight, I felt it always made my job easier
taunting the victim. Bush is a smart man.

> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.

Who ever said they were a MAJOR world power? They're only suspected as being
powerful. We don't yet know. BTW, wasn't China's nuclear threat under the
Clinton era?

> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about anyone.

And the liberals and conservatives alike want it that way. Try and shut them
down and watch both sides come at you for it.

> How many jobs now have been outsourced?

Good ole' Clinton signed NAFTA, opening the flood gates.

> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)

Oil companies had little input on the growing demand for oil in China.

> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>
> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would much
> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that is!)
>
> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives thinks
> they can kick anyone's butt.

And you think this country can't? Do you feel Hanoi Jane was a traitor or a
hero? Just curious...

> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in the
> blanks.
>
> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and organic
> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when I
> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I want
> to hug. ;^)

A tree hugger? That explains it!

> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization can
> do.

Liberalism and softness has led to the decline of many a civilization. Don't
let it happen to the US. Stay with what got us here and it'll keep giving it
to us. Alter the course, and we're headed in the wrong direction.

 

Jet fuel costs an airline less than the distributors to FBO's pay per
gallon. Part of that is quantity, but airlines have several
distribution fees waived. Subsidy? You tell me.

If it's on the ramp and has a diesel engine it runs the available
fuel, which is Jet A. It's cheaper and simpler. That's why there are no
more gasoline engines in ground support service. At one time there was
a lubricity issue, but most Jet A conforms to JP-8 specs for that now
anyway, which are the same as for DF-1.

 

Jet fuel costs an airline less than the distributors to FBO's pay per
gallon. Part of that is quantity, but airlines have several
distribution fees waived. Subsidy? You tell me.

If it's on the ramp and has a diesel engine it runs the available
fuel, which is Jet A. It's cheaper and simpler. That's why there are no
more gasoline engines in ground support service. At one time there was
a lubricity issue, but most Jet A conforms to JP-8 specs for that now
anyway, which are the same as for DF-1.

 

Jet fuel costs an airline less than the distributors to FBO's pay per
gallon. Part of that is quantity, but airlines have several
distribution fees waived. Subsidy? You tell me.

If it's on the ramp and has a diesel engine it runs the available
fuel, which is Jet A. It's cheaper and simpler. That's why there are no
more gasoline engines in ground support service. At one time there was
a lubricity issue, but most Jet A conforms to JP-8 specs for that now
anyway, which are the same as for DF-1.

 

Jet fuel costs an airline less than the distributors to FBO's pay per
gallon. Part of that is quantity, but airlines have several
distribution fees waived. Subsidy? You tell me.

If it's on the ramp and has a diesel engine it runs the available
fuel, which is Jet A. It's cheaper and simpler. That's why there are no
more gasoline engines in ground support service. At one time there was
a lubricity issue, but most Jet A conforms to JP-8 specs for that now
anyway, which are the same as for DF-1.

 

Ruel you are making some sense here. If you are making the point that
both political parties are at fault in getting us to where we are, I
would agree. But here are a couple of comments back to you..

What I detest is being considered a "bleeding heart liberal" just
because I work at a university. Being employed at a university is due
to a choice of professions and not a political philosophy.

My choice of professions does not determine my politics, but maybe to
some degree, my education does because it helps me to think things
through and certainly not brand individuals with vulgar terms like
"tree hugger" or "bleeding heart liberal". But an education does not
necessarily mean that I am "bleeding heart liberal."

Just for your information, what Jane Fonda did was absolutely stupid.
Whether or not she was a traitor, well I will leave that one for the
legal profession to determine. In no way was she a hero.

In a previous post the "greatest generation" was mentioned.
Fortunately for them, they have a social security plan to help them in
their old age. So the "greatest generation" has certainly benefited
from that liberal cause and they deserve it.

You speak of "liberalism and softness", need you be reminded that FDR,
a liberal president, got us into the second world war.

Remember, the another liberal President LBJ got us got us involved in
Vietnam because he believe in the domino theory that if South Vietnam
went communist, then Cambodia, Thialand, and other SE nations would
follow.

One was a good decision and the other.....

So I don't think your observation about liberalism and softness holds
up to reality.

>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a civilization is
really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked a
whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained their
treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..

I don't understand the reasoning that going around the world and
kicking butt and bullying nations is making this country strong.

Anyway, some of the individuals in this group are getting way to
polarized and inciteful with their comments. I thought that this
group was about Jeeps a vehicle that both bleeding heart liberals and
pious conservatives can enjoy.

Larry