I would have thought so..

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:af3e3$42ff665e$42a1cc8c$26840@FUSE.NET...
> Was that study paid for with a government grant?
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:F0JLe.88764$G8.6715@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> > That's an outrageous claim, Bill, and one you should be ashamed of !
> > btw, Bees like flowers - it's official.
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4150200.stm
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42FEAC06.30949E05@***.net...
> >> As a professor your job depends on tax payer's money, and your
> >> ability to bullsh*t needs for government grants.
> >
> >
>
>

 

Dave,

Are you sure you don't have lead drain pipes only? 70 years ago, they were
installing galvanized steel water supply pipes in most civilized locations.
If this is what you have, my crystal ball says that soon you will be paying
the plumber quite a lot of money. My recommendation is to go with copper
for a replacement. It's expensive, but it can take more abuse than
plastics, and it is bright and shiny when new, dulling to a stylish patina
with age.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:poKLe.88801$G8.352@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> I'm not sure if you are serious or not :-)
> I have lead pipes in my house - they have been there for 70 years. It
isn't
> a problem now as the minerals in the water have leached out to form an
> internal coating just as your kettle furs up over time in 'hard water'
> areas. My grandfather and grandmother lived in that house since 1934 - he
> died aged 96, and she is still going strong at 91.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6f4bd$42ff63fe$42a1cc8c$25528@FUSE.NET...
> > What about the recent theory that the affluent slowly poisoned
themselves
> > via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
> >
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of
immoderate
> > > greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the
> > > destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as
time
> > > or
> > > accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> > > yielded
> > > to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and
> > > obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed
we
> > > should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long."
[Gibbon,
> > > Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B.
Bury
> > > (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
> > >
> > > In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as the
> wolf
> > > at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another 500
> > > years
> > > ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > > "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> > > news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
> > >> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a civilization
> is
> > >> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
> > >> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked a
> > >> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained
their
> > >> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
> > >>
> > >> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got fat
> and
> > >> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> > > powerhouse
> > >> that it was under Julius Caesar.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Dave,

Are you sure you don't have lead drain pipes only? 70 years ago, they were
installing galvanized steel water supply pipes in most civilized locations.
If this is what you have, my crystal ball says that soon you will be paying
the plumber quite a lot of money. My recommendation is to go with copper
for a replacement. It's expensive, but it can take more abuse than
plastics, and it is bright and shiny when new, dulling to a stylish patina
with age.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:poKLe.88801$G8.352@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> I'm not sure if you are serious or not :-)
> I have lead pipes in my house - they have been there for 70 years. It
isn't
> a problem now as the minerals in the water have leached out to form an
> internal coating just as your kettle furs up over time in 'hard water'
> areas. My grandfather and grandmother lived in that house since 1934 - he
> died aged 96, and she is still going strong at 91.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6f4bd$42ff63fe$42a1cc8c$25528@FUSE.NET...
> > What about the recent theory that the affluent slowly poisoned
themselves
> > via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
> >
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of
immoderate
> > > greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the
> > > destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as
time
> > > or
> > > accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> > > yielded
> > > to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and
> > > obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed
we
> > > should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long."
[Gibbon,
> > > Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B.
Bury
> > > (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
> > >
> > > In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as the
> wolf
> > > at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another 500
> > > years
> > > ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > > "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> > > news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
> > >> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a civilization
> is
> > >> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
> > >> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked a
> > >> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained
their
> > >> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
> > >>
> > >> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got fat
> and
> > >> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> > > powerhouse
> > >> that it was under Julius Caesar.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Dave,

Are you sure you don't have lead drain pipes only? 70 years ago, they were
installing galvanized steel water supply pipes in most civilized locations.
If this is what you have, my crystal ball says that soon you will be paying
the plumber quite a lot of money. My recommendation is to go with copper
for a replacement. It's expensive, but it can take more abuse than
plastics, and it is bright and shiny when new, dulling to a stylish patina
with age.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:poKLe.88801$G8.352@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> I'm not sure if you are serious or not :-)
> I have lead pipes in my house - they have been there for 70 years. It
isn't
> a problem now as the minerals in the water have leached out to form an
> internal coating just as your kettle furs up over time in 'hard water'
> areas. My grandfather and grandmother lived in that house since 1934 - he
> died aged 96, and she is still going strong at 91.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6f4bd$42ff63fe$42a1cc8c$25528@FUSE.NET...
> > What about the recent theory that the affluent slowly poisoned
themselves
> > via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
> >
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of
immoderate
> > > greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the
> > > destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as
time
> > > or
> > > accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> > > yielded
> > > to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and
> > > obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed
we
> > > should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long."
[Gibbon,
> > > Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B.
Bury
> > > (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
> > >
> > > In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as the
> wolf
> > > at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another 500
> > > years
> > > ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > > "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> > > news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
> > >> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a civilization
> is
> > >> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
> > >> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked a
> > >> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained
their
> > >> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
> > >>
> > >> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got fat
> and
> > >> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> > > powerhouse
> > >> that it was under Julius Caesar.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Dave,

Are you sure you don't have lead drain pipes only? 70 years ago, they were
installing galvanized steel water supply pipes in most civilized locations.
If this is what you have, my crystal ball says that soon you will be paying
the plumber quite a lot of money. My recommendation is to go with copper
for a replacement. It's expensive, but it can take more abuse than
plastics, and it is bright and shiny when new, dulling to a stylish patina
with age.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:poKLe.88801$G8.352@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> I'm not sure if you are serious or not :-)
> I have lead pipes in my house - they have been there for 70 years. It
isn't
> a problem now as the minerals in the water have leached out to form an
> internal coating just as your kettle furs up over time in 'hard water'
> areas. My grandfather and grandmother lived in that house since 1934 - he
> died aged 96, and she is still going strong at 91.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6f4bd$42ff63fe$42a1cc8c$25528@FUSE.NET...
> > What about the recent theory that the affluent slowly poisoned
themselves
> > via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
> >
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of
immoderate
> > > greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the
> > > destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as
time
> > > or
> > > accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> > > yielded
> > > to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and
> > > obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed
we
> > > should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long."
[Gibbon,
> > > Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B.
Bury
> > > (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
> > >
> > > In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as the
> wolf
> > > at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another 500
> > > years
> > > ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > > "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> > > news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
> > >> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a civilization
> is
> > >> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
> > >> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked a
> > >> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained
their
> > >> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
> > >>
> > >> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got fat
> and
> > >> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> > > powerhouse
> > >> that it was under Julius Caesar.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Well, I exaggerated somewhat. It is in fact lead pipe from the street to the
tank, and then copper throughout the house.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1124038778.22e60d3b22fe1e94243acbd3398e9e81@t eranews...
> Dave,
>
> Are you sure you don't have lead drain pipes only? 70 years ago, they
were
> installing galvanized steel water supply pipes in most civilized
locations.
> If this is what you have, my crystal ball says that soon you will be
paying
> the plumber quite a lot of money. My recommendation is to go with copper
> for a replacement. It's expensive, but it can take more abuse than
> plastics, and it is bright and shiny when new, dulling to a stylish patina
> with age.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:poKLe.88801$G8.352@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> > I'm not sure if you are serious or not :-)
> > I have lead pipes in my house - they have been there for 70 years. It
> isn't
> > a problem now as the minerals in the water have leached out to form an
> > internal coating just as your kettle furs up over time in 'hard water'
> > areas. My grandfather and grandmother lived in that house since 1934 -
he
> > died aged 96, and she is still going strong at 91.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:6f4bd$42ff63fe$42a1cc8c$25528@FUSE.NET...
> > > What about the recent theory that the affluent slowly poisoned
> themselves
> > > via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > > "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of
> immoderate
> > > > greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of
the
> > > > destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as

> time
> > > > or
> > > > accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> > > > yielded
> > > > to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple
and
> > > > obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed
> we
> > > > should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long."
> [Gibbon,
> > > > Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B.
> Bury
> > > > (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
> > > >
> > > > In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as
the
> > wolf
> > > > at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another
500
> > > > years
> > > > ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
> > > >
> > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a
civilization
> > is
> > > >> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
> > > >> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked
a
> > > >> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained
> their
> > > >> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
> > > >>
> > > >> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got
fat
> > and
> > > >> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> > > > powerhouse
> > > >> that it was under Julius Caesar.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Well, I exaggerated somewhat. It is in fact lead pipe from the street to the
tank, and then copper throughout the house.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1124038778.22e60d3b22fe1e94243acbd3398e9e81@t eranews...
> Dave,
>
> Are you sure you don't have lead drain pipes only? 70 years ago, they
were
> installing galvanized steel water supply pipes in most civilized
locations.
> If this is what you have, my crystal ball says that soon you will be
paying
> the plumber quite a lot of money. My recommendation is to go with copper
> for a replacement. It's expensive, but it can take more abuse than
> plastics, and it is bright and shiny when new, dulling to a stylish patina
> with age.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:poKLe.88801$G8.352@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> > I'm not sure if you are serious or not :-)
> > I have lead pipes in my house - they have been there for 70 years. It
> isn't
> > a problem now as the minerals in the water have leached out to form an
> > internal coating just as your kettle furs up over time in 'hard water'
> > areas. My grandfather and grandmother lived in that house since 1934 -
he
> > died aged 96, and she is still going strong at 91.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:6f4bd$42ff63fe$42a1cc8c$25528@FUSE.NET...
> > > What about the recent theory that the affluent slowly poisoned
> themselves
> > > via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > > "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of
> immoderate
> > > > greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of
the
> > > > destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as

> time
> > > > or
> > > > accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> > > > yielded
> > > > to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple
and
> > > > obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed
> we
> > > > should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long."
> [Gibbon,
> > > > Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B.
> Bury
> > > > (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
> > > >
> > > > In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as
the
> > wolf
> > > > at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another
500
> > > > years
> > > > ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
> > > >
> > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a
civilization
> > is
> > > >> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
> > > >> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked
a
> > > >> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained
> their
> > > >> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
> > > >>
> > > >> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got
fat
> > and
> > > >> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> > > > powerhouse
> > > >> that it was under Julius Caesar.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Well, I exaggerated somewhat. It is in fact lead pipe from the street to the
tank, and then copper throughout the house.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1124038778.22e60d3b22fe1e94243acbd3398e9e81@t eranews...
> Dave,
>
> Are you sure you don't have lead drain pipes only? 70 years ago, they
were
> installing galvanized steel water supply pipes in most civilized
locations.
> If this is what you have, my crystal ball says that soon you will be
paying
> the plumber quite a lot of money. My recommendation is to go with copper
> for a replacement. It's expensive, but it can take more abuse than
> plastics, and it is bright and shiny when new, dulling to a stylish patina
> with age.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:poKLe.88801$G8.352@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> > I'm not sure if you are serious or not :-)
> > I have lead pipes in my house - they have been there for 70 years. It
> isn't
> > a problem now as the minerals in the water have leached out to form an
> > internal coating just as your kettle furs up over time in 'hard water'
> > areas. My grandfather and grandmother lived in that house since 1934 -
he
> > died aged 96, and she is still going strong at 91.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:6f4bd$42ff63fe$42a1cc8c$25528@FUSE.NET...
> > > What about the recent theory that the affluent slowly poisoned
> themselves
> > > via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > > "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of
> immoderate
> > > > greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of
the
> > > > destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as

> time
> > > > or
> > > > accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> > > > yielded
> > > > to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple
and
> > > > obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed
> we
> > > > should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long."
> [Gibbon,
> > > > Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B.
> Bury
> > > > (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
> > > >
> > > > In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as
the
> > wolf
> > > > at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another
500
> > > > years
> > > > ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
> > > >
> > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a
civilization
> > is
> > > >> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
> > > >> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked
a
> > > >> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained
> their
> > > >> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
> > > >>
> > > >> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got
fat
> > and
> > > >> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> > > > powerhouse
> > > >> that it was under Julius Caesar.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Well, I exaggerated somewhat. It is in fact lead pipe from the street to the
tank, and then copper throughout the house.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1124038778.22e60d3b22fe1e94243acbd3398e9e81@t eranews...
> Dave,
>
> Are you sure you don't have lead drain pipes only? 70 years ago, they
were
> installing galvanized steel water supply pipes in most civilized
locations.
> If this is what you have, my crystal ball says that soon you will be
paying
> the plumber quite a lot of money. My recommendation is to go with copper
> for a replacement. It's expensive, but it can take more abuse than
> plastics, and it is bright and shiny when new, dulling to a stylish patina
> with age.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:poKLe.88801$G8.352@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> > I'm not sure if you are serious or not :-)
> > I have lead pipes in my house - they have been there for 70 years. It
> isn't
> > a problem now as the minerals in the water have leached out to form an
> > internal coating just as your kettle furs up over time in 'hard water'
> > areas. My grandfather and grandmother lived in that house since 1934 -
he
> > died aged 96, and she is still going strong at 91.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:6f4bd$42ff63fe$42a1cc8c$25528@FUSE.NET...
> > > What about the recent theory that the affluent slowly poisoned
> themselves
> > > via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > news:lKHLe.88730$G8.30203@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > > "The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of
> immoderate
> > > > greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of
the
> > > > destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as

> time
> > > > or
> > > > accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric
> > > > yielded
> > > > to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple
and
> > > > obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed
> we
> > > > should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long."
> [Gibbon,
> > > > Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 2nd ed., vol. 4, ed. by J. B.
> Bury
> > > > (London, 1909), pp. 173-174.]
> > > >
> > > > In other words, the wolf at the top of the hill is not as keen as
the
> > wolf
> > > > at the bottom. Do you think America will be the top dog in another
500
> > > > years
> > > > ? Every dog/wolf has their day !
> > > >
> > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:7379e$42ff4460$453deea8$10145@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> >>From what I history I have read, the decline of many a
civilization
> > is
> > > >> > really caused by the destruction of the middle class. That was
> > > >> > certainly true in the decline of the Roman Empire. They kicked
a
> > > >> > whole lot of butt in the known world and it eventually drained
> their
> > > >> > treasury dry trying to defend their over stressed borders..
> > > >>
> > > >> They also developed a welfare system, started having orgies, got
fat
> > and
> > > >> lazy... By the time Rome fell, it wasn't even close to being the
> > > > powerhouse
> > > >> that it was under Julius Caesar.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

> What about the recent theory that the affluent slowly poisoned themselves
> via the lead pipes they used for all their plumbing?

Recent research suggests that lead isn't near as poisonous as once thought.