Oil Pan bolts?
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Re: Oil Pan bolts?
Probably your knowledge of English, where there's exception to
every rule.
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Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> The obvious answer is to multiply by 12 to convert feet to inches, but I had
> this nagging thought in the back of my mind that said 12 inch pounds isn't a
> foot pound. I don't know where this thought came from, or why I am carrying
> it around, but I needed to get it verified.
every rule.
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Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> The obvious answer is to multiply by 12 to convert feet to inches, but I had
> this nagging thought in the back of my mind that said 12 inch pounds isn't a
> foot pound. I don't know where this thought came from, or why I am carrying
> it around, but I needed to get it verified.
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Re: Oil Pan bolts?
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:53:00 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The multiple is twelve, just like the number of inches to a foot.
Can you prove it? (hint: the proof is quoted below)
> Or just like we were taught in grade school, and Jeff reminded us of.
I wasn't taught torque in grade school.
> Jeez, don't make it so difficult.
Just grade school algebra :-). Not to mention, it works on -any- unit
conversion, with no memorizing necessary.
At any rate, I just found a convenient tool that appears to handle
most units:
http://packages.debian.org/testing/utils/units
For example :
$ units '7 ft-lbs' 'in-lbs'
* 84
and my Dad's favorite obscure unit :
$ units '55 mph' 'furlongs per fortnight'
* 147839.7
-D
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Derrick Hudson wrote:
>>
>> It's better to ask and be safe!
>>
>> I believe ft-lbs is a cross product (think multiplication). Therefore
>> we have "feet" * "pounds". The general way to convert an arbitrary
>> unit to another one (for the same property) is to multiply by the
>> conversions you know until all the units you don't want cancel out.
>>
>> feet * pounds inches inches * pounds
>> ------------- * ------ => ---------------
>> 1 feet 1
>>
>> Then fill in the numbers :
>>
>> 7 feet * pounds 12 inches 84 inches * pounds
>> --------------- * --------- => ------------------
>> 1 1 feet 1
>>
>> The calculator on this site agrees with me, so I think both of us got
>> it right :-).
>>
>> http://hemsidor.torget.se/users/b/bo...rt/conv2_e.htm
>>
>> HTH,
>> -D
--
"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
--Jim Elliot
www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org
> The multiple is twelve, just like the number of inches to a foot.
Can you prove it? (hint: the proof is quoted below)
> Or just like we were taught in grade school, and Jeff reminded us of.
I wasn't taught torque in grade school.
> Jeez, don't make it so difficult.
Just grade school algebra :-). Not to mention, it works on -any- unit
conversion, with no memorizing necessary.
At any rate, I just found a convenient tool that appears to handle
most units:
http://packages.debian.org/testing/utils/units
For example :
$ units '7 ft-lbs' 'in-lbs'
* 84
and my Dad's favorite obscure unit :
$ units '55 mph' 'furlongs per fortnight'
* 147839.7
-D
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Derrick Hudson wrote:
>>
>> It's better to ask and be safe!
>>
>> I believe ft-lbs is a cross product (think multiplication). Therefore
>> we have "feet" * "pounds". The general way to convert an arbitrary
>> unit to another one (for the same property) is to multiply by the
>> conversions you know until all the units you don't want cancel out.
>>
>> feet * pounds inches inches * pounds
>> ------------- * ------ => ---------------
>> 1 feet 1
>>
>> Then fill in the numbers :
>>
>> 7 feet * pounds 12 inches 84 inches * pounds
>> --------------- * --------- => ------------------
>> 1 1 feet 1
>>
>> The calculator on this site agrees with me, so I think both of us got
>> it right :-).
>>
>> http://hemsidor.torget.se/users/b/bo...rt/conv2_e.htm
>>
>> HTH,
>> -D
--
"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
--Jim Elliot
www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org
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Re: Oil Pan bolts?
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:53:00 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The multiple is twelve, just like the number of inches to a foot.
Can you prove it? (hint: the proof is quoted below)
> Or just like we were taught in grade school, and Jeff reminded us of.
I wasn't taught torque in grade school.
> Jeez, don't make it so difficult.
Just grade school algebra :-). Not to mention, it works on -any- unit
conversion, with no memorizing necessary.
At any rate, I just found a convenient tool that appears to handle
most units:
http://packages.debian.org/testing/utils/units
For example :
$ units '7 ft-lbs' 'in-lbs'
* 84
and my Dad's favorite obscure unit :
$ units '55 mph' 'furlongs per fortnight'
* 147839.7
-D
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Derrick Hudson wrote:
>>
>> It's better to ask and be safe!
>>
>> I believe ft-lbs is a cross product (think multiplication). Therefore
>> we have "feet" * "pounds". The general way to convert an arbitrary
>> unit to another one (for the same property) is to multiply by the
>> conversions you know until all the units you don't want cancel out.
>>
>> feet * pounds inches inches * pounds
>> ------------- * ------ => ---------------
>> 1 feet 1
>>
>> Then fill in the numbers :
>>
>> 7 feet * pounds 12 inches 84 inches * pounds
>> --------------- * --------- => ------------------
>> 1 1 feet 1
>>
>> The calculator on this site agrees with me, so I think both of us got
>> it right :-).
>>
>> http://hemsidor.torget.se/users/b/bo...rt/conv2_e.htm
>>
>> HTH,
>> -D
--
"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
--Jim Elliot
www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org
> The multiple is twelve, just like the number of inches to a foot.
Can you prove it? (hint: the proof is quoted below)
> Or just like we were taught in grade school, and Jeff reminded us of.
I wasn't taught torque in grade school.
> Jeez, don't make it so difficult.
Just grade school algebra :-). Not to mention, it works on -any- unit
conversion, with no memorizing necessary.
At any rate, I just found a convenient tool that appears to handle
most units:
http://packages.debian.org/testing/utils/units
For example :
$ units '7 ft-lbs' 'in-lbs'
* 84
and my Dad's favorite obscure unit :
$ units '55 mph' 'furlongs per fortnight'
* 147839.7
-D
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Derrick Hudson wrote:
>>
>> It's better to ask and be safe!
>>
>> I believe ft-lbs is a cross product (think multiplication). Therefore
>> we have "feet" * "pounds". The general way to convert an arbitrary
>> unit to another one (for the same property) is to multiply by the
>> conversions you know until all the units you don't want cancel out.
>>
>> feet * pounds inches inches * pounds
>> ------------- * ------ => ---------------
>> 1 feet 1
>>
>> Then fill in the numbers :
>>
>> 7 feet * pounds 12 inches 84 inches * pounds
>> --------------- * --------- => ------------------
>> 1 1 feet 1
>>
>> The calculator on this site agrees with me, so I think both of us got
>> it right :-).
>>
>> http://hemsidor.torget.se/users/b/bo...rt/conv2_e.htm
>>
>> HTH,
>> -D
--
"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
--Jim Elliot
www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org
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Re: Oil Pan bolts?
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:53:00 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The multiple is twelve, just like the number of inches to a foot.
Can you prove it? (hint: the proof is quoted below)
> Or just like we were taught in grade school, and Jeff reminded us of.
I wasn't taught torque in grade school.
> Jeez, don't make it so difficult.
Just grade school algebra :-). Not to mention, it works on -any- unit
conversion, with no memorizing necessary.
At any rate, I just found a convenient tool that appears to handle
most units:
http://packages.debian.org/testing/utils/units
For example :
$ units '7 ft-lbs' 'in-lbs'
* 84
and my Dad's favorite obscure unit :
$ units '55 mph' 'furlongs per fortnight'
* 147839.7
-D
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Derrick Hudson wrote:
>>
>> It's better to ask and be safe!
>>
>> I believe ft-lbs is a cross product (think multiplication). Therefore
>> we have "feet" * "pounds". The general way to convert an arbitrary
>> unit to another one (for the same property) is to multiply by the
>> conversions you know until all the units you don't want cancel out.
>>
>> feet * pounds inches inches * pounds
>> ------------- * ------ => ---------------
>> 1 feet 1
>>
>> Then fill in the numbers :
>>
>> 7 feet * pounds 12 inches 84 inches * pounds
>> --------------- * --------- => ------------------
>> 1 1 feet 1
>>
>> The calculator on this site agrees with me, so I think both of us got
>> it right :-).
>>
>> http://hemsidor.torget.se/users/b/bo...rt/conv2_e.htm
>>
>> HTH,
>> -D
--
"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
--Jim Elliot
www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org
> The multiple is twelve, just like the number of inches to a foot.
Can you prove it? (hint: the proof is quoted below)
> Or just like we were taught in grade school, and Jeff reminded us of.
I wasn't taught torque in grade school.
> Jeez, don't make it so difficult.
Just grade school algebra :-). Not to mention, it works on -any- unit
conversion, with no memorizing necessary.
At any rate, I just found a convenient tool that appears to handle
most units:
http://packages.debian.org/testing/utils/units
For example :
$ units '7 ft-lbs' 'in-lbs'
* 84
and my Dad's favorite obscure unit :
$ units '55 mph' 'furlongs per fortnight'
* 147839.7
-D
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Derrick Hudson wrote:
>>
>> It's better to ask and be safe!
>>
>> I believe ft-lbs is a cross product (think multiplication). Therefore
>> we have "feet" * "pounds". The general way to convert an arbitrary
>> unit to another one (for the same property) is to multiply by the
>> conversions you know until all the units you don't want cancel out.
>>
>> feet * pounds inches inches * pounds
>> ------------- * ------ => ---------------
>> 1 feet 1
>>
>> Then fill in the numbers :
>>
>> 7 feet * pounds 12 inches 84 inches * pounds
>> --------------- * --------- => ------------------
>> 1 1 feet 1
>>
>> The calculator on this site agrees with me, so I think both of us got
>> it right :-).
>>
>> http://hemsidor.torget.se/users/b/bo...rt/conv2_e.htm
>>
>> HTH,
>> -D
--
"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
--Jim Elliot
www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org
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Re: Oil Pan bolts?
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:51:09 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote:
> The obvious answer is to multiply by 12 to convert feet to inches,
Yes, that is the conclusion from the proof I gave.
> but I had
> this nagging thought in the back of my mind that said 12 inch pounds isn't a
> foot pound. I don't know where this thought came from, or why I am carrying
> it around, but I needed to get it verified.
That thought comes from noticing that "foot" and "foot-pound" are
different units and then being unsure how the "pounds" portion affects
the conversion. I too thought "multiply (or divide) by 12" was too
simple and therefore must be wrong, until I worked out the proof :-).
-D
--
He who finds a wife finds what is good
and receives favor from the Lord.
Proverbs 18:22
www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org
> The obvious answer is to multiply by 12 to convert feet to inches,
Yes, that is the conclusion from the proof I gave.
> but I had
> this nagging thought in the back of my mind that said 12 inch pounds isn't a
> foot pound. I don't know where this thought came from, or why I am carrying
> it around, but I needed to get it verified.
That thought comes from noticing that "foot" and "foot-pound" are
different units and then being unsure how the "pounds" portion affects
the conversion. I too thought "multiply (or divide) by 12" was too
simple and therefore must be wrong, until I worked out the proof :-).
-D
--
He who finds a wife finds what is good
and receives favor from the Lord.
Proverbs 18:22
www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org
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Re: Oil Pan bolts?
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:51:09 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote:
> The obvious answer is to multiply by 12 to convert feet to inches,
Yes, that is the conclusion from the proof I gave.
> but I had
> this nagging thought in the back of my mind that said 12 inch pounds isn't a
> foot pound. I don't know where this thought came from, or why I am carrying
> it around, but I needed to get it verified.
That thought comes from noticing that "foot" and "foot-pound" are
different units and then being unsure how the "pounds" portion affects
the conversion. I too thought "multiply (or divide) by 12" was too
simple and therefore must be wrong, until I worked out the proof :-).
-D
--
He who finds a wife finds what is good
and receives favor from the Lord.
Proverbs 18:22
www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org
> The obvious answer is to multiply by 12 to convert feet to inches,
Yes, that is the conclusion from the proof I gave.
> but I had
> this nagging thought in the back of my mind that said 12 inch pounds isn't a
> foot pound. I don't know where this thought came from, or why I am carrying
> it around, but I needed to get it verified.
That thought comes from noticing that "foot" and "foot-pound" are
different units and then being unsure how the "pounds" portion affects
the conversion. I too thought "multiply (or divide) by 12" was too
simple and therefore must be wrong, until I worked out the proof :-).
-D
--
He who finds a wife finds what is good
and receives favor from the Lord.
Proverbs 18:22
www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org
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Re: Oil Pan bolts?
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:51:09 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote:
> The obvious answer is to multiply by 12 to convert feet to inches,
Yes, that is the conclusion from the proof I gave.
> but I had
> this nagging thought in the back of my mind that said 12 inch pounds isn't a
> foot pound. I don't know where this thought came from, or why I am carrying
> it around, but I needed to get it verified.
That thought comes from noticing that "foot" and "foot-pound" are
different units and then being unsure how the "pounds" portion affects
the conversion. I too thought "multiply (or divide) by 12" was too
simple and therefore must be wrong, until I worked out the proof :-).
-D
--
He who finds a wife finds what is good
and receives favor from the Lord.
Proverbs 18:22
www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org
> The obvious answer is to multiply by 12 to convert feet to inches,
Yes, that is the conclusion from the proof I gave.
> but I had
> this nagging thought in the back of my mind that said 12 inch pounds isn't a
> foot pound. I don't know where this thought came from, or why I am carrying
> it around, but I needed to get it verified.
That thought comes from noticing that "foot" and "foot-pound" are
different units and then being unsure how the "pounds" portion affects
the conversion. I too thought "multiply (or divide) by 12" was too
simple and therefore must be wrong, until I worked out the proof :-).
-D
--
He who finds a wife finds what is good
and receives favor from the Lord.
Proverbs 18:22
www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org
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Re: Oil Pan bolts?
OK, your teachers didn't teach you good.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Derrick Hudson wrote:
>
> Can you prove it? (hint: the proof is quoted below)
>
> I wasn't taught torque in grade school.
>
> Just grade school algebra :-). Not to mention, it works on -any- unit
> conversion, with no memorizing necessary.
>
> At any rate, I just found a convenient tool that appears to handle
> most units:
>
> http://packages.debian.org/testing/utils/units
>
> For example :
>
> $ units '7 ft-lbs' 'in-lbs'
> * 84
>
> and my Dad's favorite obscure unit :
>
> $ units '55 mph' 'furlongs per fortnight'
> * 147839.7
>
> -D
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Derrick Hudson wrote:
>
> Can you prove it? (hint: the proof is quoted below)
>
> I wasn't taught torque in grade school.
>
> Just grade school algebra :-). Not to mention, it works on -any- unit
> conversion, with no memorizing necessary.
>
> At any rate, I just found a convenient tool that appears to handle
> most units:
>
> http://packages.debian.org/testing/utils/units
>
> For example :
>
> $ units '7 ft-lbs' 'in-lbs'
> * 84
>
> and my Dad's favorite obscure unit :
>
> $ units '55 mph' 'furlongs per fortnight'
> * 147839.7
>
> -D
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Re: Oil Pan bolts?
OK, your teachers didn't teach you good.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Derrick Hudson wrote:
>
> Can you prove it? (hint: the proof is quoted below)
>
> I wasn't taught torque in grade school.
>
> Just grade school algebra :-). Not to mention, it works on -any- unit
> conversion, with no memorizing necessary.
>
> At any rate, I just found a convenient tool that appears to handle
> most units:
>
> http://packages.debian.org/testing/utils/units
>
> For example :
>
> $ units '7 ft-lbs' 'in-lbs'
> * 84
>
> and my Dad's favorite obscure unit :
>
> $ units '55 mph' 'furlongs per fortnight'
> * 147839.7
>
> -D
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Derrick Hudson wrote:
>
> Can you prove it? (hint: the proof is quoted below)
>
> I wasn't taught torque in grade school.
>
> Just grade school algebra :-). Not to mention, it works on -any- unit
> conversion, with no memorizing necessary.
>
> At any rate, I just found a convenient tool that appears to handle
> most units:
>
> http://packages.debian.org/testing/utils/units
>
> For example :
>
> $ units '7 ft-lbs' 'in-lbs'
> * 84
>
> and my Dad's favorite obscure unit :
>
> $ units '55 mph' 'furlongs per fortnight'
> * 147839.7
>
> -D
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Re: Oil Pan bolts?
OK, your teachers didn't teach you good.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Derrick Hudson wrote:
>
> Can you prove it? (hint: the proof is quoted below)
>
> I wasn't taught torque in grade school.
>
> Just grade school algebra :-). Not to mention, it works on -any- unit
> conversion, with no memorizing necessary.
>
> At any rate, I just found a convenient tool that appears to handle
> most units:
>
> http://packages.debian.org/testing/utils/units
>
> For example :
>
> $ units '7 ft-lbs' 'in-lbs'
> * 84
>
> and my Dad's favorite obscure unit :
>
> $ units '55 mph' 'furlongs per fortnight'
> * 147839.7
>
> -D
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Derrick Hudson wrote:
>
> Can you prove it? (hint: the proof is quoted below)
>
> I wasn't taught torque in grade school.
>
> Just grade school algebra :-). Not to mention, it works on -any- unit
> conversion, with no memorizing necessary.
>
> At any rate, I just found a convenient tool that appears to handle
> most units:
>
> http://packages.debian.org/testing/utils/units
>
> For example :
>
> $ units '7 ft-lbs' 'in-lbs'
> * 84
>
> and my Dad's favorite obscure unit :
>
> $ units '55 mph' 'furlongs per fortnight'
> * 147839.7
>
> -D
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