Oh, no! Not the bad clutch slave again !
#21
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Re: Oh, no! Not the bad clutch slave again !
Hi Earle,
Ditto, in the newer X15 bell the external slave pushes forward from
the back through the hole seen at:
http://www.----------.com/ax5_ax15.jpg to a new design fork that pivots
from the other side. Weird!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese
> transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.
>
> Earle
Ditto, in the newer X15 bell the external slave pushes forward from
the back through the hole seen at:
http://www.----------.com/ax5_ax15.jpg to a new design fork that pivots
from the other side. Weird!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese
> transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.
>
> Earle
#22
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Re: Oh, no! Not the bad clutch slave again !
Hi Earle,
Ditto, in the newer X15 bell the external slave pushes forward from
the back through the hole seen at:
http://www.----------.com/ax5_ax15.jpg to a new design fork that pivots
from the other side. Weird!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese
> transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.
>
> Earle
Ditto, in the newer X15 bell the external slave pushes forward from
the back through the hole seen at:
http://www.----------.com/ax5_ax15.jpg to a new design fork that pivots
from the other side. Weird!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese
> transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.
>
> Earle
#23
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Re: Oh, no! Not the bad clutch slave again !
I'd say it probably is - I went from the frog POS to an AX-15 and the
clutch change was just a bonus project while I had it apart. I had
more grief with the cross member and rear mount than anything else -
the 94 Wrangler AX-15 went right in and even came with the tc input
shaft to match splines.
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:35:14 UTC "Earle Horton"
<nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:
> You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese
> transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-dsCWqyxmZOlN@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not sure you even need the new bell housing, Earle. When I
> > swapped mine out ('88 Commanche) the yard I bought the new tranny from
> > included the bell housing. When I sat the old (BA10/5 1988 vintage)
> > bell housing next to the 94 bell housing he sent for the external
> > slave, they were close enough to identical that I couldn't tell the
> > difference with one minor exception: I had to drill out the mounting
> > holes for the slave cylinder and rethread them. The old internal
> > clutch just had a cover plate and uses small screws to hold it in
> > while the slave mount needed bolts that were about 1mm larger. The 88
> > bell housing even had the pivot ball for the throwout arm already
> > installed.
> >
> > I used the junkyard slave for over 3 years before it went out. The
> > replacement slave lasted a year before it literally came apart (The
> > grove for the snap ring that held the cylinder in the mount plate was
> > bad and allowed the snap ring to work out of the groove). Best mod I
> > ever made, IMO. 2 bolts and one roll pin to change vs. pulling the
> > tranny/tc just to change the slave is a big plus!
> >
> > On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:39:15 UTC "Earle Horton"
> > <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If it is already in the car, mechanical systems are great, but
> converting to
> > > a mechanical linkage is tricky, because everything has to line up just
> > > right. I have known staunch supporters of hydraulic, cable, and
> mechanical
> > > clutch actuating systems, and have come to the conclusion that this is
> more
> > > a philosophical preference, than anything else. They all wear out, most
> > > will give good service if maintained properly, and some are in fact just
> > > poorly designed, like the hydraulic system in the pre-1994 Wranglers.
> If
> > > you have an early Wrangler, where the clutch slave has failed, the later
> > > model with the external cylinder is probably the most straightforward
> > > replacement. You will have to get the later style bell housing anyway,
> > > because the early one does not provide mechanical access to the throwout
> > > bearing.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:436B9FD6.28E40457@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I much prefer the mechanical linkage like the CJ7 has. If I was going
> > > > to do a conversion, that is what I would go for.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > Captain Purple wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Here we go again. Am I crazy or what? (don't answer that.) On the
> jeeps
> > > I've owned there have been MANY
> > > > > repairs to the clutch hydraulic slave cylinders. I have been told
> > > repeatedly by different people that this is
> > > > > a thorn in the side and to more or less live with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd MUCH rather put the money into other goodies, new tires, etc etc
> etc
> > > rather than having these things fixed
> > > > > every 6-7 months for years, all with different 91, 92, 93, 94 std
> > > transmission vehicles.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just venting. Could always be worse. Is this as common as I'm
> told???
> > > > >
> > > > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
>
>
--
Will Honea
clutch change was just a bonus project while I had it apart. I had
more grief with the cross member and rear mount than anything else -
the 94 Wrangler AX-15 went right in and even came with the tc input
shaft to match splines.
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:35:14 UTC "Earle Horton"
<nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:
> You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese
> transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-dsCWqyxmZOlN@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not sure you even need the new bell housing, Earle. When I
> > swapped mine out ('88 Commanche) the yard I bought the new tranny from
> > included the bell housing. When I sat the old (BA10/5 1988 vintage)
> > bell housing next to the 94 bell housing he sent for the external
> > slave, they were close enough to identical that I couldn't tell the
> > difference with one minor exception: I had to drill out the mounting
> > holes for the slave cylinder and rethread them. The old internal
> > clutch just had a cover plate and uses small screws to hold it in
> > while the slave mount needed bolts that were about 1mm larger. The 88
> > bell housing even had the pivot ball for the throwout arm already
> > installed.
> >
> > I used the junkyard slave for over 3 years before it went out. The
> > replacement slave lasted a year before it literally came apart (The
> > grove for the snap ring that held the cylinder in the mount plate was
> > bad and allowed the snap ring to work out of the groove). Best mod I
> > ever made, IMO. 2 bolts and one roll pin to change vs. pulling the
> > tranny/tc just to change the slave is a big plus!
> >
> > On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:39:15 UTC "Earle Horton"
> > <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If it is already in the car, mechanical systems are great, but
> converting to
> > > a mechanical linkage is tricky, because everything has to line up just
> > > right. I have known staunch supporters of hydraulic, cable, and
> mechanical
> > > clutch actuating systems, and have come to the conclusion that this is
> more
> > > a philosophical preference, than anything else. They all wear out, most
> > > will give good service if maintained properly, and some are in fact just
> > > poorly designed, like the hydraulic system in the pre-1994 Wranglers.
> If
> > > you have an early Wrangler, where the clutch slave has failed, the later
> > > model with the external cylinder is probably the most straightforward
> > > replacement. You will have to get the later style bell housing anyway,
> > > because the early one does not provide mechanical access to the throwout
> > > bearing.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:436B9FD6.28E40457@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I much prefer the mechanical linkage like the CJ7 has. If I was going
> > > > to do a conversion, that is what I would go for.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > Captain Purple wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Here we go again. Am I crazy or what? (don't answer that.) On the
> jeeps
> > > I've owned there have been MANY
> > > > > repairs to the clutch hydraulic slave cylinders. I have been told
> > > repeatedly by different people that this is
> > > > > a thorn in the side and to more or less live with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd MUCH rather put the money into other goodies, new tires, etc etc
> etc
> > > rather than having these things fixed
> > > > > every 6-7 months for years, all with different 91, 92, 93, 94 std
> > > transmission vehicles.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just venting. Could always be worse. Is this as common as I'm
> told???
> > > > >
> > > > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
>
>
--
Will Honea
#24
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Re: Oh, no! Not the bad clutch slave again !
I'd say it probably is - I went from the frog POS to an AX-15 and the
clutch change was just a bonus project while I had it apart. I had
more grief with the cross member and rear mount than anything else -
the 94 Wrangler AX-15 went right in and even came with the tc input
shaft to match splines.
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:35:14 UTC "Earle Horton"
<nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:
> You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese
> transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-dsCWqyxmZOlN@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not sure you even need the new bell housing, Earle. When I
> > swapped mine out ('88 Commanche) the yard I bought the new tranny from
> > included the bell housing. When I sat the old (BA10/5 1988 vintage)
> > bell housing next to the 94 bell housing he sent for the external
> > slave, they were close enough to identical that I couldn't tell the
> > difference with one minor exception: I had to drill out the mounting
> > holes for the slave cylinder and rethread them. The old internal
> > clutch just had a cover plate and uses small screws to hold it in
> > while the slave mount needed bolts that were about 1mm larger. The 88
> > bell housing even had the pivot ball for the throwout arm already
> > installed.
> >
> > I used the junkyard slave for over 3 years before it went out. The
> > replacement slave lasted a year before it literally came apart (The
> > grove for the snap ring that held the cylinder in the mount plate was
> > bad and allowed the snap ring to work out of the groove). Best mod I
> > ever made, IMO. 2 bolts and one roll pin to change vs. pulling the
> > tranny/tc just to change the slave is a big plus!
> >
> > On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:39:15 UTC "Earle Horton"
> > <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If it is already in the car, mechanical systems are great, but
> converting to
> > > a mechanical linkage is tricky, because everything has to line up just
> > > right. I have known staunch supporters of hydraulic, cable, and
> mechanical
> > > clutch actuating systems, and have come to the conclusion that this is
> more
> > > a philosophical preference, than anything else. They all wear out, most
> > > will give good service if maintained properly, and some are in fact just
> > > poorly designed, like the hydraulic system in the pre-1994 Wranglers.
> If
> > > you have an early Wrangler, where the clutch slave has failed, the later
> > > model with the external cylinder is probably the most straightforward
> > > replacement. You will have to get the later style bell housing anyway,
> > > because the early one does not provide mechanical access to the throwout
> > > bearing.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:436B9FD6.28E40457@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I much prefer the mechanical linkage like the CJ7 has. If I was going
> > > > to do a conversion, that is what I would go for.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > Captain Purple wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Here we go again. Am I crazy or what? (don't answer that.) On the
> jeeps
> > > I've owned there have been MANY
> > > > > repairs to the clutch hydraulic slave cylinders. I have been told
> > > repeatedly by different people that this is
> > > > > a thorn in the side and to more or less live with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd MUCH rather put the money into other goodies, new tires, etc etc
> etc
> > > rather than having these things fixed
> > > > > every 6-7 months for years, all with different 91, 92, 93, 94 std
> > > transmission vehicles.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just venting. Could always be worse. Is this as common as I'm
> told???
> > > > >
> > > > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
>
>
--
Will Honea
clutch change was just a bonus project while I had it apart. I had
more grief with the cross member and rear mount than anything else -
the 94 Wrangler AX-15 went right in and even came with the tc input
shaft to match splines.
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:35:14 UTC "Earle Horton"
<nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:
> You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese
> transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-dsCWqyxmZOlN@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not sure you even need the new bell housing, Earle. When I
> > swapped mine out ('88 Commanche) the yard I bought the new tranny from
> > included the bell housing. When I sat the old (BA10/5 1988 vintage)
> > bell housing next to the 94 bell housing he sent for the external
> > slave, they were close enough to identical that I couldn't tell the
> > difference with one minor exception: I had to drill out the mounting
> > holes for the slave cylinder and rethread them. The old internal
> > clutch just had a cover plate and uses small screws to hold it in
> > while the slave mount needed bolts that were about 1mm larger. The 88
> > bell housing even had the pivot ball for the throwout arm already
> > installed.
> >
> > I used the junkyard slave for over 3 years before it went out. The
> > replacement slave lasted a year before it literally came apart (The
> > grove for the snap ring that held the cylinder in the mount plate was
> > bad and allowed the snap ring to work out of the groove). Best mod I
> > ever made, IMO. 2 bolts and one roll pin to change vs. pulling the
> > tranny/tc just to change the slave is a big plus!
> >
> > On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:39:15 UTC "Earle Horton"
> > <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If it is already in the car, mechanical systems are great, but
> converting to
> > > a mechanical linkage is tricky, because everything has to line up just
> > > right. I have known staunch supporters of hydraulic, cable, and
> mechanical
> > > clutch actuating systems, and have come to the conclusion that this is
> more
> > > a philosophical preference, than anything else. They all wear out, most
> > > will give good service if maintained properly, and some are in fact just
> > > poorly designed, like the hydraulic system in the pre-1994 Wranglers.
> If
> > > you have an early Wrangler, where the clutch slave has failed, the later
> > > model with the external cylinder is probably the most straightforward
> > > replacement. You will have to get the later style bell housing anyway,
> > > because the early one does not provide mechanical access to the throwout
> > > bearing.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:436B9FD6.28E40457@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I much prefer the mechanical linkage like the CJ7 has. If I was going
> > > > to do a conversion, that is what I would go for.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > Captain Purple wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Here we go again. Am I crazy or what? (don't answer that.) On the
> jeeps
> > > I've owned there have been MANY
> > > > > repairs to the clutch hydraulic slave cylinders. I have been told
> > > repeatedly by different people that this is
> > > > > a thorn in the side and to more or less live with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd MUCH rather put the money into other goodies, new tires, etc etc
> etc
> > > rather than having these things fixed
> > > > > every 6-7 months for years, all with different 91, 92, 93, 94 std
> > > transmission vehicles.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just venting. Could always be worse. Is this as common as I'm
> told???
> > > > >
> > > > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
>
>
--
Will Honea
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Oh, no! Not the bad clutch slave again !
I'd say it probably is - I went from the frog POS to an AX-15 and the
clutch change was just a bonus project while I had it apart. I had
more grief with the cross member and rear mount than anything else -
the 94 Wrangler AX-15 went right in and even came with the tc input
shaft to match splines.
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:35:14 UTC "Earle Horton"
<nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:
> You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese
> transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-dsCWqyxmZOlN@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not sure you even need the new bell housing, Earle. When I
> > swapped mine out ('88 Commanche) the yard I bought the new tranny from
> > included the bell housing. When I sat the old (BA10/5 1988 vintage)
> > bell housing next to the 94 bell housing he sent for the external
> > slave, they were close enough to identical that I couldn't tell the
> > difference with one minor exception: I had to drill out the mounting
> > holes for the slave cylinder and rethread them. The old internal
> > clutch just had a cover plate and uses small screws to hold it in
> > while the slave mount needed bolts that were about 1mm larger. The 88
> > bell housing even had the pivot ball for the throwout arm already
> > installed.
> >
> > I used the junkyard slave for over 3 years before it went out. The
> > replacement slave lasted a year before it literally came apart (The
> > grove for the snap ring that held the cylinder in the mount plate was
> > bad and allowed the snap ring to work out of the groove). Best mod I
> > ever made, IMO. 2 bolts and one roll pin to change vs. pulling the
> > tranny/tc just to change the slave is a big plus!
> >
> > On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:39:15 UTC "Earle Horton"
> > <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If it is already in the car, mechanical systems are great, but
> converting to
> > > a mechanical linkage is tricky, because everything has to line up just
> > > right. I have known staunch supporters of hydraulic, cable, and
> mechanical
> > > clutch actuating systems, and have come to the conclusion that this is
> more
> > > a philosophical preference, than anything else. They all wear out, most
> > > will give good service if maintained properly, and some are in fact just
> > > poorly designed, like the hydraulic system in the pre-1994 Wranglers.
> If
> > > you have an early Wrangler, where the clutch slave has failed, the later
> > > model with the external cylinder is probably the most straightforward
> > > replacement. You will have to get the later style bell housing anyway,
> > > because the early one does not provide mechanical access to the throwout
> > > bearing.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:436B9FD6.28E40457@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I much prefer the mechanical linkage like the CJ7 has. If I was going
> > > > to do a conversion, that is what I would go for.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > Captain Purple wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Here we go again. Am I crazy or what? (don't answer that.) On the
> jeeps
> > > I've owned there have been MANY
> > > > > repairs to the clutch hydraulic slave cylinders. I have been told
> > > repeatedly by different people that this is
> > > > > a thorn in the side and to more or less live with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd MUCH rather put the money into other goodies, new tires, etc etc
> etc
> > > rather than having these things fixed
> > > > > every 6-7 months for years, all with different 91, 92, 93, 94 std
> > > transmission vehicles.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just venting. Could always be worse. Is this as common as I'm
> told???
> > > > >
> > > > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
>
>
--
Will Honea
clutch change was just a bonus project while I had it apart. I had
more grief with the cross member and rear mount than anything else -
the 94 Wrangler AX-15 went right in and even came with the tc input
shaft to match splines.
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:35:14 UTC "Earle Horton"
<nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:
> You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese
> transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-dsCWqyxmZOlN@anon.none.net...
> > I'm not sure you even need the new bell housing, Earle. When I
> > swapped mine out ('88 Commanche) the yard I bought the new tranny from
> > included the bell housing. When I sat the old (BA10/5 1988 vintage)
> > bell housing next to the 94 bell housing he sent for the external
> > slave, they were close enough to identical that I couldn't tell the
> > difference with one minor exception: I had to drill out the mounting
> > holes for the slave cylinder and rethread them. The old internal
> > clutch just had a cover plate and uses small screws to hold it in
> > while the slave mount needed bolts that were about 1mm larger. The 88
> > bell housing even had the pivot ball for the throwout arm already
> > installed.
> >
> > I used the junkyard slave for over 3 years before it went out. The
> > replacement slave lasted a year before it literally came apart (The
> > grove for the snap ring that held the cylinder in the mount plate was
> > bad and allowed the snap ring to work out of the groove). Best mod I
> > ever made, IMO. 2 bolts and one roll pin to change vs. pulling the
> > tranny/tc just to change the slave is a big plus!
> >
> > On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:39:15 UTC "Earle Horton"
> > <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If it is already in the car, mechanical systems are great, but
> converting to
> > > a mechanical linkage is tricky, because everything has to line up just
> > > right. I have known staunch supporters of hydraulic, cable, and
> mechanical
> > > clutch actuating systems, and have come to the conclusion that this is
> more
> > > a philosophical preference, than anything else. They all wear out, most
> > > will give good service if maintained properly, and some are in fact just
> > > poorly designed, like the hydraulic system in the pre-1994 Wranglers.
> If
> > > you have an early Wrangler, where the clutch slave has failed, the later
> > > model with the external cylinder is probably the most straightforward
> > > replacement. You will have to get the later style bell housing anyway,
> > > because the early one does not provide mechanical access to the throwout
> > > bearing.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:436B9FD6.28E40457@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I much prefer the mechanical linkage like the CJ7 has. If I was going
> > > > to do a conversion, that is what I would go for.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > Captain Purple wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Here we go again. Am I crazy or what? (don't answer that.) On the
> jeeps
> > > I've owned there have been MANY
> > > > > repairs to the clutch hydraulic slave cylinders. I have been told
> > > repeatedly by different people that this is
> > > > > a thorn in the side and to more or less live with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd MUCH rather put the money into other goodies, new tires, etc etc
> etc
> > > rather than having these things fixed
> > > > > every 6-7 months for years, all with different 91, 92, 93, 94 std
> > > transmission vehicles.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just venting. Could always be worse. Is this as common as I'm
> told???
> > > > >
> > > > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
>
>
--
Will Honea
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Re: Oh, no! Not the bad clutch slave again !
That was what amazed me when I compared the two bell housings. The 88
actuall had the pivot ball installed on the opposite side from the
slave mount. The bolt holes were one size too small, but the bosses
cast into the housings were identical so all it took was drilling and
re-tapping the mount holes. I've had more trouble mating up parts
that were supposed to fit than with this. I forget exactly why I used
the old bell housing when I had the replacement - there had to have
been a reason but darned if I can rtemember it. Maybe just to see if
it really did fit.
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:29:10 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> Ditto, in the newer X15 bell the external slave pushes forward from
> the back through the hole seen at:
> http://www.----------.com/ax5_ax15.jpg to a new design fork that pivots
> from the other side. Weird!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese
> > transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.
> >
> > Earle
--
Will Honea
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Re: Oh, no! Not the bad clutch slave again !
That was what amazed me when I compared the two bell housings. The 88
actuall had the pivot ball installed on the opposite side from the
slave mount. The bolt holes were one size too small, but the bosses
cast into the housings were identical so all it took was drilling and
re-tapping the mount holes. I've had more trouble mating up parts
that were supposed to fit than with this. I forget exactly why I used
the old bell housing when I had the replacement - there had to have
been a reason but darned if I can rtemember it. Maybe just to see if
it really did fit.
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:29:10 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> Ditto, in the newer X15 bell the external slave pushes forward from
> the back through the hole seen at:
> http://www.----------.com/ax5_ax15.jpg to a new design fork that pivots
> from the other side. Weird!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese
> > transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.
> >
> > Earle
--
Will Honea
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Re: Oh, no! Not the bad clutch slave again !
That was what amazed me when I compared the two bell housings. The 88
actuall had the pivot ball installed on the opposite side from the
slave mount. The bolt holes were one size too small, but the bosses
cast into the housings were identical so all it took was drilling and
re-tapping the mount holes. I've had more trouble mating up parts
that were supposed to fit than with this. I forget exactly why I used
the old bell housing when I had the replacement - there had to have
been a reason but darned if I can rtemember it. Maybe just to see if
it really did fit.
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:29:10 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> Ditto, in the newer X15 bell the external slave pushes forward from
> the back through the hole seen at:
> http://www.----------.com/ax5_ax15.jpg to a new design fork that pivots
> from the other side. Weird!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese
> > transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.
> >
> > Earle
--
Will Honea
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Re: Oh, no! Not the bad clutch slave again !
Hi Will,
Yes, I know your year was drilled and tapped, like the Real Jeeps.
It fit your transmission.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Will Honea wrote:
>
> That was what amazed me when I compared the two bell housings. The 88
> actuall had the pivot ball installed on the opposite side from the
> slave mount. The bolt holes were one size too small, but the bosses
> cast into the housings were identical so all it took was drilling and
> re-tapping the mount holes. I've had more trouble mating up parts
> that were supposed to fit than with this. I forget exactly why I used
> the old bell housing when I had the replacement - there had to have
> been a reason but darned if I can rtemember it. Maybe just to see if
> it really did fit.
Yes, I know your year was drilled and tapped, like the Real Jeeps.
It fit your transmission.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Will Honea wrote:
>
> That was what amazed me when I compared the two bell housings. The 88
> actuall had the pivot ball installed on the opposite side from the
> slave mount. The bolt holes were one size too small, but the bosses
> cast into the housings were identical so all it took was drilling and
> re-tapping the mount holes. I've had more trouble mating up parts
> that were supposed to fit than with this. I forget exactly why I used
> the old bell housing when I had the replacement - there had to have
> been a reason but darned if I can rtemember it. Maybe just to see if
> it really did fit.
#30
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Re: Oh, no! Not the bad clutch slave again !
Hi Will,
Yes, I know your year was drilled and tapped, like the Real Jeeps.
It fit your transmission.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Will Honea wrote:
>
> That was what amazed me when I compared the two bell housings. The 88
> actuall had the pivot ball installed on the opposite side from the
> slave mount. The bolt holes were one size too small, but the bosses
> cast into the housings were identical so all it took was drilling and
> re-tapping the mount holes. I've had more trouble mating up parts
> that were supposed to fit than with this. I forget exactly why I used
> the old bell housing when I had the replacement - there had to have
> been a reason but darned if I can rtemember it. Maybe just to see if
> it really did fit.
Yes, I know your year was drilled and tapped, like the Real Jeeps.
It fit your transmission.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Will Honea wrote:
>
> That was what amazed me when I compared the two bell housings. The 88
> actuall had the pivot ball installed on the opposite side from the
> slave mount. The bolt holes were one size too small, but the bosses
> cast into the housings were identical so all it took was drilling and
> re-tapping the mount holes. I've had more trouble mating up parts
> that were supposed to fit than with this. I forget exactly why I used
> the old bell housing when I had the replacement - there had to have
> been a reason but darned if I can rtemember it. Maybe just to see if
> it really did fit.