Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
04-04-2005, 01:04 AM
#31
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
In message <424EF600.378E6520@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
> The only computer Mike recommends removing is the one that, and I
>bet you can't find that still works, and it's only function is to
>operate the Weber/Carter BBD stepper motor. The brain box that controls
>the spark is left in place. Look again at the Nutter bypass:
I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
modified.
>http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm In drag racing we use lots
>of computers, but never electronic fuel injection.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> I've worked on vehicles with and without computers with the same success for
>> years. Somebody mentions computer in any context and the first thing you
>> recommend is getting rid of it. You don't understand computers so you fear
>> them. Face it, technology passed you by years ago. You, friend, are the one
>> that is clueless.
>>
>> LOL! I bet you even consider yourself a 'real' mechanic. LOL!
>>
>> 'Real' mechanics don't lose sleep over computers. They learn, adapt and
>> appreciate what computers can do.
>>
>> A wannabe will sit around and cry about them.
>>
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> The only computer Mike recommends removing is the one that, and I
>bet you can't find that still works, and it's only function is to
>operate the Weber/Carter BBD stepper motor. The brain box that controls
>the spark is left in place. Look again at the Nutter bypass:
I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
modified.
>http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm In drag racing we use lots
>of computers, but never electronic fuel injection.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> I've worked on vehicles with and without computers with the same success for
>> years. Somebody mentions computer in any context and the first thing you
>> recommend is getting rid of it. You don't understand computers so you fear
>> them. Face it, technology passed you by years ago. You, friend, are the one
>> that is clueless.
>>
>> LOL! I bet you even consider yourself a 'real' mechanic. LOL!
>>
>> 'Real' mechanics don't lose sleep over computers. They learn, adapt and
>> appreciate what computers can do.
>>
>> A wannabe will sit around and cry about them.
>>
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
04-04-2005, 02:04 AM
#32
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
had a class A license, do you?
http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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bllsht wrote:
>
> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> modified.
had a class A license, do you?
http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
bllsht wrote:
>
> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> modified.
04-04-2005, 02:04 AM
#33
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
had a class A license, do you?
http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
bllsht wrote:
>
> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> modified.
had a class A license, do you?
http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
bllsht wrote:
>
> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> modified.
04-04-2005, 02:04 AM
#34
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
had a class A license, do you?
http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
bllsht wrote:
>
> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> modified.
had a class A license, do you?
http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
bllsht wrote:
>
> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> modified.
04-04-2005, 02:20 AM
#35
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
Bullsh*ter, it is the catalytic converter that chemically changes
pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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bllsht wrote:
>
> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
04-04-2005, 02:20 AM
#36
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
Bullsh*ter, it is the catalytic converter that chemically changes
pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
04-04-2005, 02:20 AM
#37
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
Bullsh*ter, it is the catalytic converter that chemically changes
pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
04-04-2005, 09:02 AM
#38
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
bllsht wrote:
>
> In message <424EA779.BA298F23@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >
> >Bad guess there bllsht, we have compared paperwork with california folks
> >online several times and we have higher standards here.
>
> --------. Even the NOx pass/fail cut points you posted here were more than
> twice what California's are.
>
Give it up, every time you post this crap we break out our paperwork
that says different. You are like a broken record and I don't feel like
proving you wrong with the exact same info 'once again'. We have posted
it several times, but I guess with all that computer learning you got,
there is nothing left over for real facts eh.
Mike
>
> In message <424EA779.BA298F23@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >
> >Bad guess there bllsht, we have compared paperwork with california folks
> >online several times and we have higher standards here.
>
> --------. Even the NOx pass/fail cut points you posted here were more than
> twice what California's are.
>
Give it up, every time you post this crap we break out our paperwork
that says different. You are like a broken record and I don't feel like
proving you wrong with the exact same info 'once again'. We have posted
it several times, but I guess with all that computer learning you got,
there is nothing left over for real facts eh.
Mike
04-04-2005, 09:02 AM
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
bllsht wrote:
>
> In message <424EA779.BA298F23@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >
> >Bad guess there bllsht, we have compared paperwork with california folks
> >online several times and we have higher standards here.
>
> --------. Even the NOx pass/fail cut points you posted here were more than
> twice what California's are.
>
Give it up, every time you post this crap we break out our paperwork
that says different. You are like a broken record and I don't feel like
proving you wrong with the exact same info 'once again'. We have posted
it several times, but I guess with all that computer learning you got,
there is nothing left over for real facts eh.
Mike
>
> In message <424EA779.BA298F23@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >
> >Bad guess there bllsht, we have compared paperwork with california folks
> >online several times and we have higher standards here.
>
> --------. Even the NOx pass/fail cut points you posted here were more than
> twice what California's are.
>
Give it up, every time you post this crap we break out our paperwork
that says different. You are like a broken record and I don't feel like
proving you wrong with the exact same info 'once again'. We have posted
it several times, but I guess with all that computer learning you got,
there is nothing left over for real facts eh.
Mike
04-04-2005, 09:02 AM
#40
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
bllsht wrote:
>
> In message <424EA779.BA298F23@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >
> >Bad guess there bllsht, we have compared paperwork with california folks
> >online several times and we have higher standards here.
>
> --------. Even the NOx pass/fail cut points you posted here were more than
> twice what California's are.
>
Give it up, every time you post this crap we break out our paperwork
that says different. You are like a broken record and I don't feel like
proving you wrong with the exact same info 'once again'. We have posted
it several times, but I guess with all that computer learning you got,
there is nothing left over for real facts eh.
Mike
>
> In message <424EA779.BA298F23@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >
> >Bad guess there bllsht, we have compared paperwork with california folks
> >online several times and we have higher standards here.
>
> --------. Even the NOx pass/fail cut points you posted here were more than
> twice what California's are.
>
Give it up, every time you post this crap we break out our paperwork
that says different. You are like a broken record and I don't feel like
proving you wrong with the exact same info 'once again'. We have posted
it several times, but I guess with all that computer learning you got,
there is nothing left over for real facts eh.
Mike
