Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
04-05-2005, 01:09 AM
#51
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
When the going gets tough, change the subject, eh?
I'll disregard the fact that your comments had NOTHING to do with my reply and
address what you just posted...
1. It appears that you're saying that you don't want full vacuum advance when
cold? If that's what you're saying, you're wrong again. You want MORE advance
for cold running.
2. There is no class A license anymore. They went away not long after they did
away with road draft tubes. There is EB for basic area technicians and EA for
advanced emission specialist. Since you asked, I have an EA license.
In message <4250D8E9.259A1DF0@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
> We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
>had a class A license, do you?
>http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
>> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
>> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
>> modified.
I'll disregard the fact that your comments had NOTHING to do with my reply and
address what you just posted...
1. It appears that you're saying that you don't want full vacuum advance when
cold? If that's what you're saying, you're wrong again. You want MORE advance
for cold running.
2. There is no class A license anymore. They went away not long after they did
away with road draft tubes. There is EB for basic area technicians and EA for
advanced emission specialist. Since you asked, I have an EA license.
In message <4250D8E9.259A1DF0@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
> We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
>had a class A license, do you?
>http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
>> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
>> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
>> modified.
04-05-2005, 01:09 AM
#52
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
When the going gets tough, change the subject, eh?
I'll disregard the fact that your comments had NOTHING to do with my reply and
address what you just posted...
1. It appears that you're saying that you don't want full vacuum advance when
cold? If that's what you're saying, you're wrong again. You want MORE advance
for cold running.
2. There is no class A license anymore. They went away not long after they did
away with road draft tubes. There is EB for basic area technicians and EA for
advanced emission specialist. Since you asked, I have an EA license.
In message <4250D8E9.259A1DF0@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
> We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
>had a class A license, do you?
>http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
>> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
>> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
>> modified.
I'll disregard the fact that your comments had NOTHING to do with my reply and
address what you just posted...
1. It appears that you're saying that you don't want full vacuum advance when
cold? If that's what you're saying, you're wrong again. You want MORE advance
for cold running.
2. There is no class A license anymore. They went away not long after they did
away with road draft tubes. There is EB for basic area technicians and EA for
advanced emission specialist. Since you asked, I have an EA license.
In message <4250D8E9.259A1DF0@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
> We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
>had a class A license, do you?
>http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
>> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
>> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
>> modified.
04-05-2005, 01:20 AM
#53
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
So you're saying that EGR and spark controls don't reduce NOx emissions? And
air injection doesn't reduce HC and CO?
If you don't have the right stuff going into the cat converter, you're not gonna
have the right stuff coming out.
In message <4250DCA0.EB9992FA@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>Bullsh*ter, it is the catalytic converter that chemically changes
>pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
>Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
>carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
>> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
>> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
air injection doesn't reduce HC and CO?
If you don't have the right stuff going into the cat converter, you're not gonna
have the right stuff coming out.
In message <4250DCA0.EB9992FA@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>Bullsh*ter, it is the catalytic converter that chemically changes
>pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
>Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
>carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
>> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
>> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
04-05-2005, 01:20 AM
#54
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Posts: n/a
Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
So you're saying that EGR and spark controls don't reduce NOx emissions? And
air injection doesn't reduce HC and CO?
If you don't have the right stuff going into the cat converter, you're not gonna
have the right stuff coming out.
In message <4250DCA0.EB9992FA@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>Bullsh*ter, it is the catalytic converter that chemically changes
>pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
>Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
>carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
>> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
>> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
air injection doesn't reduce HC and CO?
If you don't have the right stuff going into the cat converter, you're not gonna
have the right stuff coming out.
In message <4250DCA0.EB9992FA@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>Bullsh*ter, it is the catalytic converter that chemically changes
>pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
>Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
>carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
>> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
>> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
04-05-2005, 01:20 AM
#55
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Posts: n/a
Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
So you're saying that EGR and spark controls don't reduce NOx emissions? And
air injection doesn't reduce HC and CO?
If you don't have the right stuff going into the cat converter, you're not gonna
have the right stuff coming out.
In message <4250DCA0.EB9992FA@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>Bullsh*ter, it is the catalytic converter that chemically changes
>pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
>Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
>carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
>> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
>> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
air injection doesn't reduce HC and CO?
If you don't have the right stuff going into the cat converter, you're not gonna
have the right stuff coming out.
In message <4250DCA0.EB9992FA@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>Bullsh*ter, it is the catalytic converter that chemically changes
>pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
>Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
>carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
>> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
>> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
04-05-2005, 01:20 AM
#56
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Posts: n/a
Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
So you're saying that EGR and spark controls don't reduce NOx emissions? And
air injection doesn't reduce HC and CO?
If you don't have the right stuff going into the cat converter, you're not gonna
have the right stuff coming out.
In message <4250DCA0.EB9992FA@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>Bullsh*ter, it is the catalytic converter that chemically changes
>pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
>Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
>carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
>> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
>> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
air injection doesn't reduce HC and CO?
If you don't have the right stuff going into the cat converter, you're not gonna
have the right stuff coming out.
In message <4250DCA0.EB9992FA@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>Bullsh*ter, it is the catalytic converter that chemically changes
>pollutants like carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons (HC), oxides of
>Nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter (PM) into harmless substances like
>carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), and water vapour (H2O).
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> Hiding the evidence will be the least of your worries. If you live in an area
>> where loaded mode testing is done, you will fail the NOx portion of the
>> emissions test miserably. Can you say "Gross Polluter"?
04-05-2005, 03:31 AM
#57
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
Bullsh*ter,
I meant losing the computer would lose the advance control over the
distributors centrifugal and vacuum advances during warm up. Not that
I'm for it, but by the time it's up on wheel dyno taking it SMOG test,
whether it's retarded cold is irrelevant, as that can't be tested at
that time.
Yes, they did add a letter since mine.
You're just too full of bull sh*t to have a SMOG license, I don't
believe you. Of course, you could scan it and put it up for us to see.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> When the going gets tough, change the subject, eh?
>
> I'll disregard the fact that your comments had NOTHING to do with my reply and
> address what you just posted...
>
> 1. It appears that you're saying that you don't want full vacuum advance when
> cold? If that's what you're saying, you're wrong again. You want MORE advance
> for cold running.
>
> 2. There is no class A license anymore. They went away not long after they did
> away with road draft tubes. There is EB for basic area technicians and EA for
> advanced emission specialist. Since you asked, I have an EA license.
>
> In message <4250D8E9.259A1DF0@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>
> > We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
> >had a class A license, do you?
> >http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:--------------------
> >
> >bllsht wrote:
> >>
> >> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> >> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> >> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> >> modified.
I meant losing the computer would lose the advance control over the
distributors centrifugal and vacuum advances during warm up. Not that
I'm for it, but by the time it's up on wheel dyno taking it SMOG test,
whether it's retarded cold is irrelevant, as that can't be tested at
that time.
Yes, they did add a letter since mine.
You're just too full of bull sh*t to have a SMOG license, I don't
believe you. Of course, you could scan it and put it up for us to see.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> When the going gets tough, change the subject, eh?
>
> I'll disregard the fact that your comments had NOTHING to do with my reply and
> address what you just posted...
>
> 1. It appears that you're saying that you don't want full vacuum advance when
> cold? If that's what you're saying, you're wrong again. You want MORE advance
> for cold running.
>
> 2. There is no class A license anymore. They went away not long after they did
> away with road draft tubes. There is EB for basic area technicians and EA for
> advanced emission specialist. Since you asked, I have an EA license.
>
> In message <4250D8E9.259A1DF0@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>
> > We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
> >had a class A license, do you?
> >http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:--------------------
> >
> >bllsht wrote:
> >>
> >> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> >> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> >> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> >> modified.
04-05-2005, 03:31 AM
#58
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
Bullsh*ter,
I meant losing the computer would lose the advance control over the
distributors centrifugal and vacuum advances during warm up. Not that
I'm for it, but by the time it's up on wheel dyno taking it SMOG test,
whether it's retarded cold is irrelevant, as that can't be tested at
that time.
Yes, they did add a letter since mine.
You're just too full of bull sh*t to have a SMOG license, I don't
believe you. Of course, you could scan it and put it up for us to see.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> When the going gets tough, change the subject, eh?
>
> I'll disregard the fact that your comments had NOTHING to do with my reply and
> address what you just posted...
>
> 1. It appears that you're saying that you don't want full vacuum advance when
> cold? If that's what you're saying, you're wrong again. You want MORE advance
> for cold running.
>
> 2. There is no class A license anymore. They went away not long after they did
> away with road draft tubes. There is EB for basic area technicians and EA for
> advanced emission specialist. Since you asked, I have an EA license.
>
> In message <4250D8E9.259A1DF0@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>
> > We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
> >had a class A license, do you?
> >http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:--------------------
> >
> >bllsht wrote:
> >>
> >> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> >> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> >> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> >> modified.
I meant losing the computer would lose the advance control over the
distributors centrifugal and vacuum advances during warm up. Not that
I'm for it, but by the time it's up on wheel dyno taking it SMOG test,
whether it's retarded cold is irrelevant, as that can't be tested at
that time.
Yes, they did add a letter since mine.
You're just too full of bull sh*t to have a SMOG license, I don't
believe you. Of course, you could scan it and put it up for us to see.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> When the going gets tough, change the subject, eh?
>
> I'll disregard the fact that your comments had NOTHING to do with my reply and
> address what you just posted...
>
> 1. It appears that you're saying that you don't want full vacuum advance when
> cold? If that's what you're saying, you're wrong again. You want MORE advance
> for cold running.
>
> 2. There is no class A license anymore. They went away not long after they did
> away with road draft tubes. There is EB for basic area technicians and EA for
> advanced emission specialist. Since you asked, I have an EA license.
>
> In message <4250D8E9.259A1DF0@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>
> > We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
> >had a class A license, do you?
> >http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:--------------------
> >
> >bllsht wrote:
> >>
> >> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> >> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> >> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> >> modified.
04-05-2005, 03:31 AM
#59
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Posts: n/a
Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
Bullsh*ter,
I meant losing the computer would lose the advance control over the
distributors centrifugal and vacuum advances during warm up. Not that
I'm for it, but by the time it's up on wheel dyno taking it SMOG test,
whether it's retarded cold is irrelevant, as that can't be tested at
that time.
Yes, they did add a letter since mine.
You're just too full of bull sh*t to have a SMOG license, I don't
believe you. Of course, you could scan it and put it up for us to see.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> When the going gets tough, change the subject, eh?
>
> I'll disregard the fact that your comments had NOTHING to do with my reply and
> address what you just posted...
>
> 1. It appears that you're saying that you don't want full vacuum advance when
> cold? If that's what you're saying, you're wrong again. You want MORE advance
> for cold running.
>
> 2. There is no class A license anymore. They went away not long after they did
> away with road draft tubes. There is EB for basic area technicians and EA for
> advanced emission specialist. Since you asked, I have an EA license.
>
> In message <4250D8E9.259A1DF0@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>
> > We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
> >had a class A license, do you?
> >http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:--------------------
> >
> >bllsht wrote:
> >>
> >> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> >> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> >> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> >> modified.
I meant losing the computer would lose the advance control over the
distributors centrifugal and vacuum advances during warm up. Not that
I'm for it, but by the time it's up on wheel dyno taking it SMOG test,
whether it's retarded cold is irrelevant, as that can't be tested at
that time.
Yes, they did add a letter since mine.
You're just too full of bull sh*t to have a SMOG license, I don't
believe you. Of course, you could scan it and put it up for us to see.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> When the going gets tough, change the subject, eh?
>
> I'll disregard the fact that your comments had NOTHING to do with my reply and
> address what you just posted...
>
> 1. It appears that you're saying that you don't want full vacuum advance when
> cold? If that's what you're saying, you're wrong again. You want MORE advance
> for cold running.
>
> 2. There is no class A license anymore. They went away not long after they did
> away with road draft tubes. There is EB for basic area technicians and EA for
> advanced emission specialist. Since you asked, I have an EA license.
>
> In message <4250D8E9.259A1DF0@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>
> > We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
> >had a class A license, do you?
> >http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:--------------------
> >
> >bllsht wrote:
> >>
> >> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> >> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> >> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> >> modified.
04-05-2005, 03:31 AM
#60
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Re: Nutter Bypass Ignition Modification???
Bullsh*ter,
I meant losing the computer would lose the advance control over the
distributors centrifugal and vacuum advances during warm up. Not that
I'm for it, but by the time it's up on wheel dyno taking it SMOG test,
whether it's retarded cold is irrelevant, as that can't be tested at
that time.
Yes, they did add a letter since mine.
You're just too full of bull sh*t to have a SMOG license, I don't
believe you. Of course, you could scan it and put it up for us to see.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> When the going gets tough, change the subject, eh?
>
> I'll disregard the fact that your comments had NOTHING to do with my reply and
> address what you just posted...
>
> 1. It appears that you're saying that you don't want full vacuum advance when
> cold? If that's what you're saying, you're wrong again. You want MORE advance
> for cold running.
>
> 2. There is no class A license anymore. They went away not long after they did
> away with road draft tubes. There is EB for basic area technicians and EA for
> advanced emission specialist. Since you asked, I have an EA license.
>
> In message <4250D8E9.259A1DF0@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>
> > We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
> >had a class A license, do you?
> >http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:--------------------
> >
> >bllsht wrote:
> >>
> >> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> >> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> >> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> >> modified.
I meant losing the computer would lose the advance control over the
distributors centrifugal and vacuum advances during warm up. Not that
I'm for it, but by the time it's up on wheel dyno taking it SMOG test,
whether it's retarded cold is irrelevant, as that can't be tested at
that time.
Yes, they did add a letter since mine.
You're just too full of bull sh*t to have a SMOG license, I don't
believe you. Of course, you could scan it and put it up for us to see.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> When the going gets tough, change the subject, eh?
>
> I'll disregard the fact that your comments had NOTHING to do with my reply and
> address what you just posted...
>
> 1. It appears that you're saying that you don't want full vacuum advance when
> cold? If that's what you're saying, you're wrong again. You want MORE advance
> for cold running.
>
> 2. There is no class A license anymore. They went away not long after they did
> away with road draft tubes. There is EB for basic area technicians and EA for
> advanced emission specialist. Since you asked, I have an EA license.
>
> In message <4250D8E9.259A1DF0@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>
> > We eliminate full vacuum advance for cold running only. Remember I
> >had a class A license, do you?
> >http://www.----------.com/oscilloscope.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:--------------------
> >
> >bllsht wrote:
> >>
> >> I am familiar with the Nutter hack. Maybe you should have another look. The
> >> ignition module is just a driver for the coil. The computer that your pal
> >> recommends bypassing controls the timing. That is why the ignition wiring is
> >> modified.