novice question on getting a stuck vehicle out
12-22-2004, 09:54 PM
#51
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Re: novice question on getting a stuck vehicle out
"Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
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> Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone either
> says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap".
> No one ever says where to attach the strap to...
>
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> n.
I always attach the strap, and I attach it to the frame. If I have to, I use
a chain to get to both sides of the frame, then hook my strap to the chain.
The chain is strong enough for the load, and I route the chain through the
loop on the end of my strap.
news:32upl2F3qr7m6U1@individual.net...
> Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone either
> says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap".
> No one ever says where to attach the strap to...
>
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> n.
I always attach the strap, and I attach it to the frame. If I have to, I use
a chain to get to both sides of the frame, then hook my strap to the chain.
The chain is strong enough for the load, and I route the chain through the
loop on the end of my strap.
12-22-2004, 09:54 PM
#52
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Re: novice question on getting a stuck vehicle out
"Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
news:32upl2F3qr7m6U1@individual.net...
> Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone either
> says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap".
> No one ever says where to attach the strap to...
>
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> n.
I always attach the strap, and I attach it to the frame. If I have to, I use
a chain to get to both sides of the frame, then hook my strap to the chain.
The chain is strong enough for the load, and I route the chain through the
loop on the end of my strap.
news:32upl2F3qr7m6U1@individual.net...
> Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone either
> says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap".
> No one ever says where to attach the strap to...
>
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> n.
I always attach the strap, and I attach it to the frame. If I have to, I use
a chain to get to both sides of the frame, then hook my strap to the chain.
The chain is strong enough for the load, and I route the chain through the
loop on the end of my strap.
12-22-2004, 09:57 PM
#53
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Re: novice question on getting a stuck vehicle out
Nathan Otis wrote:
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> n.
Just close the big metal hook in the sunroof and yank. ;) Actually,
some sedans actually have factory tow hooks. Toyota is fond of putting
them on. My Porsche does. Your vehicle may vary. You might try looking
at the owner's manual prior to hooking up, though. Good question,
because, after all, this _is_ the season for sedan fishing.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
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> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> n.
Just close the big metal hook in the sunroof and yank. ;) Actually,
some sedans actually have factory tow hooks. Toyota is fond of putting
them on. My Porsche does. Your vehicle may vary. You might try looking
at the owner's manual prior to hooking up, though. Good question,
because, after all, this _is_ the season for sedan fishing.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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12-22-2004, 09:57 PM
#54
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Re: novice question on getting a stuck vehicle out
Nathan Otis wrote:
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> n.
Just close the big metal hook in the sunroof and yank. ;) Actually,
some sedans actually have factory tow hooks. Toyota is fond of putting
them on. My Porsche does. Your vehicle may vary. You might try looking
at the owner's manual prior to hooking up, though. Good question,
because, after all, this _is_ the season for sedan fishing.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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__________________________________________________ _________
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> n.
Just close the big metal hook in the sunroof and yank. ;) Actually,
some sedans actually have factory tow hooks. Toyota is fond of putting
them on. My Porsche does. Your vehicle may vary. You might try looking
at the owner's manual prior to hooking up, though. Good question,
because, after all, this _is_ the season for sedan fishing.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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12-22-2004, 09:57 PM
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Re: novice question on getting a stuck vehicle out
Nathan Otis wrote:
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> n.
Just close the big metal hook in the sunroof and yank. ;) Actually,
some sedans actually have factory tow hooks. Toyota is fond of putting
them on. My Porsche does. Your vehicle may vary. You might try looking
at the owner's manual prior to hooking up, though. Good question,
because, after all, this _is_ the season for sedan fishing.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> n.
Just close the big metal hook in the sunroof and yank. ;) Actually,
some sedans actually have factory tow hooks. Toyota is fond of putting
them on. My Porsche does. Your vehicle may vary. You might try looking
at the owner's manual prior to hooking up, though. Good question,
because, after all, this _is_ the season for sedan fishing.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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12-22-2004, 10:03 PM
#56
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Re: novice question on getting a stuck vehicle out
Nathan Otis did pass the time by typing:
> Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone either
> says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap". No
> one ever says where to attach the strap to...
>
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
Most vehciles have pull points on the frame, but depending on the angle
those can bend the back bumper or body metal.
Modern vehicles don't have real bumpers, most will simply rip off with
the slightest stress.
If it's another Jeep or truck and they have a ClassIII hitch I usually
pin the loop in there for a straight pull. Pulling at an angle may bend
the frame on the newer trucks.
For the underside I use a couple of T hooks welded into a chain. Not to
be confused with that shiny metal hook that comes on suicide tow straps.
http://www2.northerntool.com/product-1/43572.htm
I have pulled from the axle mounts, but only if they have a draglink
that runs back to the frame. That has a high potential of screwing up
alignment.
Another location is a frame cross member if you have to pull at an angle.
Usually the tranny mount crossmember, but some times like on old chevys
you can get a strap around the motor crossmember. Never pull on an A-arm
old ones may take it but the new ones will snap.
Truthfully it depends on the vehicle. Even tow companies have books for
hooking up.
--
DougW
> Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone either
> says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap". No
> one ever says where to attach the strap to...
>
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
Most vehciles have pull points on the frame, but depending on the angle
those can bend the back bumper or body metal.
Modern vehicles don't have real bumpers, most will simply rip off with
the slightest stress.
If it's another Jeep or truck and they have a ClassIII hitch I usually
pin the loop in there for a straight pull. Pulling at an angle may bend
the frame on the newer trucks.
For the underside I use a couple of T hooks welded into a chain. Not to
be confused with that shiny metal hook that comes on suicide tow straps.
http://www2.northerntool.com/product-1/43572.htm
I have pulled from the axle mounts, but only if they have a draglink
that runs back to the frame. That has a high potential of screwing up
alignment.
Another location is a frame cross member if you have to pull at an angle.
Usually the tranny mount crossmember, but some times like on old chevys
you can get a strap around the motor crossmember. Never pull on an A-arm
old ones may take it but the new ones will snap.
Truthfully it depends on the vehicle. Even tow companies have books for
hooking up.
--
DougW
12-22-2004, 10:03 PM
#57
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Re: novice question on getting a stuck vehicle out
Nathan Otis did pass the time by typing:
> Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone either
> says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap". No
> one ever says where to attach the strap to...
>
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
Most vehciles have pull points on the frame, but depending on the angle
those can bend the back bumper or body metal.
Modern vehicles don't have real bumpers, most will simply rip off with
the slightest stress.
If it's another Jeep or truck and they have a ClassIII hitch I usually
pin the loop in there for a straight pull. Pulling at an angle may bend
the frame on the newer trucks.
For the underside I use a couple of T hooks welded into a chain. Not to
be confused with that shiny metal hook that comes on suicide tow straps.
http://www2.northerntool.com/product-1/43572.htm
I have pulled from the axle mounts, but only if they have a draglink
that runs back to the frame. That has a high potential of screwing up
alignment.
Another location is a frame cross member if you have to pull at an angle.
Usually the tranny mount crossmember, but some times like on old chevys
you can get a strap around the motor crossmember. Never pull on an A-arm
old ones may take it but the new ones will snap.
Truthfully it depends on the vehicle. Even tow companies have books for
hooking up.
--
DougW
> Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone either
> says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap". No
> one ever says where to attach the strap to...
>
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
Most vehciles have pull points on the frame, but depending on the angle
those can bend the back bumper or body metal.
Modern vehicles don't have real bumpers, most will simply rip off with
the slightest stress.
If it's another Jeep or truck and they have a ClassIII hitch I usually
pin the loop in there for a straight pull. Pulling at an angle may bend
the frame on the newer trucks.
For the underside I use a couple of T hooks welded into a chain. Not to
be confused with that shiny metal hook that comes on suicide tow straps.
http://www2.northerntool.com/product-1/43572.htm
I have pulled from the axle mounts, but only if they have a draglink
that runs back to the frame. That has a high potential of screwing up
alignment.
Another location is a frame cross member if you have to pull at an angle.
Usually the tranny mount crossmember, but some times like on old chevys
you can get a strap around the motor crossmember. Never pull on an A-arm
old ones may take it but the new ones will snap.
Truthfully it depends on the vehicle. Even tow companies have books for
hooking up.
--
DougW
12-22-2004, 10:03 PM
#58
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Re: novice question on getting a stuck vehicle out
Nathan Otis did pass the time by typing:
> Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone either
> says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap". No
> one ever says where to attach the strap to...
>
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
Most vehciles have pull points on the frame, but depending on the angle
those can bend the back bumper or body metal.
Modern vehicles don't have real bumpers, most will simply rip off with
the slightest stress.
If it's another Jeep or truck and they have a ClassIII hitch I usually
pin the loop in there for a straight pull. Pulling at an angle may bend
the frame on the newer trucks.
For the underside I use a couple of T hooks welded into a chain. Not to
be confused with that shiny metal hook that comes on suicide tow straps.
http://www2.northerntool.com/product-1/43572.htm
I have pulled from the axle mounts, but only if they have a draglink
that runs back to the frame. That has a high potential of screwing up
alignment.
Another location is a frame cross member if you have to pull at an angle.
Usually the tranny mount crossmember, but some times like on old chevys
you can get a strap around the motor crossmember. Never pull on an A-arm
old ones may take it but the new ones will snap.
Truthfully it depends on the vehicle. Even tow companies have books for
hooking up.
--
DougW
> Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone either
> says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap". No
> one ever says where to attach the strap to...
>
> Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
Most vehciles have pull points on the frame, but depending on the angle
those can bend the back bumper or body metal.
Modern vehicles don't have real bumpers, most will simply rip off with
the slightest stress.
If it's another Jeep or truck and they have a ClassIII hitch I usually
pin the loop in there for a straight pull. Pulling at an angle may bend
the frame on the newer trucks.
For the underside I use a couple of T hooks welded into a chain. Not to
be confused with that shiny metal hook that comes on suicide tow straps.
http://www2.northerntool.com/product-1/43572.htm
I have pulled from the axle mounts, but only if they have a draglink
that runs back to the frame. That has a high potential of screwing up
alignment.
Another location is a frame cross member if you have to pull at an angle.
Usually the tranny mount crossmember, but some times like on old chevys
you can get a strap around the motor crossmember. Never pull on an A-arm
old ones may take it but the new ones will snap.
Truthfully it depends on the vehicle. Even tow companies have books for
hooking up.
--
DougW
12-22-2004, 11:16 PM
#59
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Re: novice question on getting a stuck vehicle out
Jeff - can you please describe "the chain"?
I would be interested in what others use for "the chain" as well, thanks.
Tomes
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10skcr75ipnhpa5@corp.supernews.com...
> "Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
> news:32upl2F3qr7m6U1@individual.net...
> > Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone
either
> > says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap".
> > No one ever says where to attach the strap to...
> >
> > Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> > standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> > n.
>
>
>
> I always attach the strap, and I attach it to the frame. If I have to, I
use
> a chain to get to both sides of the frame, then hook my strap to the
chain.
> The chain is strong enough for the load, and I route the chain through the
> loop on the end of my strap.
>
>
>
>
>
I would be interested in what others use for "the chain" as well, thanks.
Tomes
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10skcr75ipnhpa5@corp.supernews.com...
> "Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
> news:32upl2F3qr7m6U1@individual.net...
> > Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone
either
> > says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap".
> > No one ever says where to attach the strap to...
> >
> > Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> > standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> > n.
>
>
>
> I always attach the strap, and I attach it to the frame. If I have to, I
use
> a chain to get to both sides of the frame, then hook my strap to the
chain.
> The chain is strong enough for the load, and I route the chain through the
> loop on the end of my strap.
>
>
>
>
>
12-22-2004, 11:16 PM
#60
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Re: novice question on getting a stuck vehicle out
Jeff - can you please describe "the chain"?
I would be interested in what others use for "the chain" as well, thanks.
Tomes
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10skcr75ipnhpa5@corp.supernews.com...
> "Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
> news:32upl2F3qr7m6U1@individual.net...
> > Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone
either
> > says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap".
> > No one ever says where to attach the strap to...
> >
> > Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> > standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> > n.
>
>
>
> I always attach the strap, and I attach it to the frame. If I have to, I
use
> a chain to get to both sides of the frame, then hook my strap to the
chain.
> The chain is strong enough for the load, and I route the chain through the
> loop on the end of my strap.
>
>
>
>
>
I would be interested in what others use for "the chain" as well, thanks.
Tomes
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10skcr75ipnhpa5@corp.supernews.com...
> "Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
> news:32upl2F3qr7m6U1@individual.net...
> > Ya know, when this topic comes up (and it comes up a lot), everyone
either
> > says, "Let them attach the strap" or, "NEVER let them attach the strap".
> > No one ever says where to attach the strap to...
> >
> > Anyone wanna break the silence? Cause I'd really like to know. On yer
> > standard issue sedan, what do you hook up to?
> > n.
>
>
>
> I always attach the strap, and I attach it to the frame. If I have to, I
use
> a chain to get to both sides of the frame, then hook my strap to the
chain.
> The chain is strong enough for the load, and I route the chain through the
> loop on the end of my strap.
>
>
>
>
>