Novak Still Lying -What Goddamn Balls!
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Re: Novak Still Lying -What Goddamn *****!
On 02 Oct 2004 21:19:16 GMT, steelgtr62@aol.com (Steelgtr62) wrote:
> Whatever the rest of North America decides, I want a diesel TJ. Right or
>wrong. But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
>behind.
Excuse, me, but when I bought gas last night at $1.81 per gal(for reg
unleaded), I happened to notice that the diesel was 3¢ higher than
premium @ $2.04/gal.
Why would I want to pay higher prices for stinkie fuel?
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
> Whatever the rest of North America decides, I want a diesel TJ. Right or
>wrong. But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
>behind.
Excuse, me, but when I bought gas last night at $1.81 per gal(for reg
unleaded), I happened to notice that the diesel was 3¢ higher than
premium @ $2.04/gal.
Why would I want to pay higher prices for stinkie fuel?
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
#32
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Re: Novak Still Lying -What Goddamn *****!
because you dont use so much of it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 02 Oct 2004 21:19:16 GMT, steelgtr62@aol.com (Steelgtr62) wrote:
>
>
> > Whatever the rest of North America decides, I want a diesel TJ. Right or
> >wrong. But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be
following
> >behind.
>
> Excuse, me, but when I bought gas last night at $1.81 per gal(for reg
> unleaded), I happened to notice that the diesel was 3¢ higher than
> premium @ $2.04/gal.
> Why would I want to pay higher prices for stinkie fuel?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 02 Oct 2004 21:19:16 GMT, steelgtr62@aol.com (Steelgtr62) wrote:
>
>
> > Whatever the rest of North America decides, I want a diesel TJ. Right or
> >wrong. But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be
following
> >behind.
>
> Excuse, me, but when I bought gas last night at $1.81 per gal(for reg
> unleaded), I happened to notice that the diesel was 3¢ higher than
> premium @ $2.04/gal.
> Why would I want to pay higher prices for stinkie fuel?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
#33
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Re: Novak Still Lying -What Goddamn *****!
because you dont use so much of it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 02 Oct 2004 21:19:16 GMT, steelgtr62@aol.com (Steelgtr62) wrote:
>
>
> > Whatever the rest of North America decides, I want a diesel TJ. Right or
> >wrong. But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be
following
> >behind.
>
> Excuse, me, but when I bought gas last night at $1.81 per gal(for reg
> unleaded), I happened to notice that the diesel was 3¢ higher than
> premium @ $2.04/gal.
> Why would I want to pay higher prices for stinkie fuel?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s9gfm0t4vni8jb5bvutiqqatb6v5j36i90@4ax.com...
> On 02 Oct 2004 21:19:16 GMT, steelgtr62@aol.com (Steelgtr62) wrote:
>
>
> > Whatever the rest of North America decides, I want a diesel TJ. Right or
> >wrong. But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be
following
> >behind.
>
> Excuse, me, but when I bought gas last night at $1.81 per gal(for reg
> unleaded), I happened to notice that the diesel was 3¢ higher than
> premium @ $2.04/gal.
> Why would I want to pay higher prices for stinkie fuel?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
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Re: Novak Still Lying -What Goddamn *****!
because you dont use so much of it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s9gfm0t4vni8jb5bvutiqqatb6v5j36i90@4ax.com...
> On 02 Oct 2004 21:19:16 GMT, steelgtr62@aol.com (Steelgtr62) wrote:
>
>
> > Whatever the rest of North America decides, I want a diesel TJ. Right or
> >wrong. But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be
following
> >behind.
>
> Excuse, me, but when I bought gas last night at $1.81 per gal(for reg
> unleaded), I happened to notice that the diesel was 3¢ higher than
> premium @ $2.04/gal.
> Why would I want to pay higher prices for stinkie fuel?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s9gfm0t4vni8jb5bvutiqqatb6v5j36i90@4ax.com...
> On 02 Oct 2004 21:19:16 GMT, steelgtr62@aol.com (Steelgtr62) wrote:
>
>
> > Whatever the rest of North America decides, I want a diesel TJ. Right or
> >wrong. But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be
following
> >behind.
>
> Excuse, me, but when I bought gas last night at $1.81 per gal(for reg
> unleaded), I happened to notice that the diesel was 3¢ higher than
> premium @ $2.04/gal.
> Why would I want to pay higher prices for stinkie fuel?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
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Re: Novak Still Lying -What Goddamn *****!
Since the advent of a process called catalytic cracking they can make heavy
fuels into light ones, but not the other way around.
Gasoline was a byproduct of kerosene, in effect, until the mid-1920s, not the
1960s. Gasolines drove the fuels market because private cars were all gasoline
burning. Higher (LPG) and lower (kerosenes, diesels, heating oils and
lubricating oil stocks) were byproducts. The increase in diesel demand and the
mass consumption of kerosenes by air carrier aviation have evened out the
demand.
Today all oil products are in continuous and rising demand. There just isn't
any cheap product out there.
The Europeans have gone diesel in a big way and rightly so because they
generate less total volume of pollutant gases, and give very much better
economy. This is because as Carnot predicted the higher the differential of
heat the more efficient a heat engine is. That's why steam has been pretty well
run out of business everywhere except where fired by a reactor or by some cheap
random burnable such as coals or trash. Natural Gas and heavy oils are much
more efficiently burned in piston internal combustion engines or in split cycle
(steam/gas turbine) plants.
We've established Mr ------ has no interest in the environment per se, else
he'd be behind Clunker Junker.
The very belated introduction of the excellent and proven VM common rail high
pressure diesel is a very good thing even if it's not in the platform I'd buy.
Historically Mercedes engines have been better than the American pushrod ones
in terms of TBO and sudden failures...but the parts are a lot higher.
fuels into light ones, but not the other way around.
Gasoline was a byproduct of kerosene, in effect, until the mid-1920s, not the
1960s. Gasolines drove the fuels market because private cars were all gasoline
burning. Higher (LPG) and lower (kerosenes, diesels, heating oils and
lubricating oil stocks) were byproducts. The increase in diesel demand and the
mass consumption of kerosenes by air carrier aviation have evened out the
demand.
Today all oil products are in continuous and rising demand. There just isn't
any cheap product out there.
The Europeans have gone diesel in a big way and rightly so because they
generate less total volume of pollutant gases, and give very much better
economy. This is because as Carnot predicted the higher the differential of
heat the more efficient a heat engine is. That's why steam has been pretty well
run out of business everywhere except where fired by a reactor or by some cheap
random burnable such as coals or trash. Natural Gas and heavy oils are much
more efficiently burned in piston internal combustion engines or in split cycle
(steam/gas turbine) plants.
We've established Mr ------ has no interest in the environment per se, else
he'd be behind Clunker Junker.
The very belated introduction of the excellent and proven VM common rail high
pressure diesel is a very good thing even if it's not in the platform I'd buy.
Historically Mercedes engines have been better than the American pushrod ones
in terms of TBO and sudden failures...but the parts are a lot higher.
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Re: Novak Still Lying -What Goddamn *****!
Since the advent of a process called catalytic cracking they can make heavy
fuels into light ones, but not the other way around.
Gasoline was a byproduct of kerosene, in effect, until the mid-1920s, not the
1960s. Gasolines drove the fuels market because private cars were all gasoline
burning. Higher (LPG) and lower (kerosenes, diesels, heating oils and
lubricating oil stocks) were byproducts. The increase in diesel demand and the
mass consumption of kerosenes by air carrier aviation have evened out the
demand.
Today all oil products are in continuous and rising demand. There just isn't
any cheap product out there.
The Europeans have gone diesel in a big way and rightly so because they
generate less total volume of pollutant gases, and give very much better
economy. This is because as Carnot predicted the higher the differential of
heat the more efficient a heat engine is. That's why steam has been pretty well
run out of business everywhere except where fired by a reactor or by some cheap
random burnable such as coals or trash. Natural Gas and heavy oils are much
more efficiently burned in piston internal combustion engines or in split cycle
(steam/gas turbine) plants.
We've established Mr ------ has no interest in the environment per se, else
he'd be behind Clunker Junker.
The very belated introduction of the excellent and proven VM common rail high
pressure diesel is a very good thing even if it's not in the platform I'd buy.
Historically Mercedes engines have been better than the American pushrod ones
in terms of TBO and sudden failures...but the parts are a lot higher.
fuels into light ones, but not the other way around.
Gasoline was a byproduct of kerosene, in effect, until the mid-1920s, not the
1960s. Gasolines drove the fuels market because private cars were all gasoline
burning. Higher (LPG) and lower (kerosenes, diesels, heating oils and
lubricating oil stocks) were byproducts. The increase in diesel demand and the
mass consumption of kerosenes by air carrier aviation have evened out the
demand.
Today all oil products are in continuous and rising demand. There just isn't
any cheap product out there.
The Europeans have gone diesel in a big way and rightly so because they
generate less total volume of pollutant gases, and give very much better
economy. This is because as Carnot predicted the higher the differential of
heat the more efficient a heat engine is. That's why steam has been pretty well
run out of business everywhere except where fired by a reactor or by some cheap
random burnable such as coals or trash. Natural Gas and heavy oils are much
more efficiently burned in piston internal combustion engines or in split cycle
(steam/gas turbine) plants.
We've established Mr ------ has no interest in the environment per se, else
he'd be behind Clunker Junker.
The very belated introduction of the excellent and proven VM common rail high
pressure diesel is a very good thing even if it's not in the platform I'd buy.
Historically Mercedes engines have been better than the American pushrod ones
in terms of TBO and sudden failures...but the parts are a lot higher.
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Re: Novak Still Lying -What Goddamn *****!
Since the advent of a process called catalytic cracking they can make heavy
fuels into light ones, but not the other way around.
Gasoline was a byproduct of kerosene, in effect, until the mid-1920s, not the
1960s. Gasolines drove the fuels market because private cars were all gasoline
burning. Higher (LPG) and lower (kerosenes, diesels, heating oils and
lubricating oil stocks) were byproducts. The increase in diesel demand and the
mass consumption of kerosenes by air carrier aviation have evened out the
demand.
Today all oil products are in continuous and rising demand. There just isn't
any cheap product out there.
The Europeans have gone diesel in a big way and rightly so because they
generate less total volume of pollutant gases, and give very much better
economy. This is because as Carnot predicted the higher the differential of
heat the more efficient a heat engine is. That's why steam has been pretty well
run out of business everywhere except where fired by a reactor or by some cheap
random burnable such as coals or trash. Natural Gas and heavy oils are much
more efficiently burned in piston internal combustion engines or in split cycle
(steam/gas turbine) plants.
We've established Mr ------ has no interest in the environment per se, else
he'd be behind Clunker Junker.
The very belated introduction of the excellent and proven VM common rail high
pressure diesel is a very good thing even if it's not in the platform I'd buy.
Historically Mercedes engines have been better than the American pushrod ones
in terms of TBO and sudden failures...but the parts are a lot higher.
fuels into light ones, but not the other way around.
Gasoline was a byproduct of kerosene, in effect, until the mid-1920s, not the
1960s. Gasolines drove the fuels market because private cars were all gasoline
burning. Higher (LPG) and lower (kerosenes, diesels, heating oils and
lubricating oil stocks) were byproducts. The increase in diesel demand and the
mass consumption of kerosenes by air carrier aviation have evened out the
demand.
Today all oil products are in continuous and rising demand. There just isn't
any cheap product out there.
The Europeans have gone diesel in a big way and rightly so because they
generate less total volume of pollutant gases, and give very much better
economy. This is because as Carnot predicted the higher the differential of
heat the more efficient a heat engine is. That's why steam has been pretty well
run out of business everywhere except where fired by a reactor or by some cheap
random burnable such as coals or trash. Natural Gas and heavy oils are much
more efficiently burned in piston internal combustion engines or in split cycle
(steam/gas turbine) plants.
We've established Mr ------ has no interest in the environment per se, else
he'd be behind Clunker Junker.
The very belated introduction of the excellent and proven VM common rail high
pressure diesel is a very good thing even if it's not in the platform I'd buy.
Historically Mercedes engines have been better than the American pushrod ones
in terms of TBO and sudden failures...but the parts are a lot higher.
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Re: Novak Still Lying -What Goddamn *****!
DougW <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
> Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> >>> But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
> >>> behind. <<
> >
> > Apprently in resopnse to increased sales of diesels, in the Southwest is now
> > more expensive than regular. Considering diesel is about the second step in
> > the refining process, this is pure ---- penetration on the part of the oil
> > companies. I'm told if you just let crude oil sit in the right conditions,
> > kerosene floats to the top. Diesel is simply filtered kerosene. This is
> > going to get worse, as US refineries must reduce the sulphur content in
> > diesl to match Europe, etc. They'll use this as an ecuse to price it about
> > where premium is now and will kill the passenger car/light truck diesel once
> > again.
>
> Actually it's mostly because of the seasonal switch to production of home
> heating oil instead of diesel.
Here in New England diesel is cheaper than regular gasoline all summer,
and more expensive all winter.
> Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> >>> But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
> >>> behind. <<
> >
> > Apprently in resopnse to increased sales of diesels, in the Southwest is now
> > more expensive than regular. Considering diesel is about the second step in
> > the refining process, this is pure ---- penetration on the part of the oil
> > companies. I'm told if you just let crude oil sit in the right conditions,
> > kerosene floats to the top. Diesel is simply filtered kerosene. This is
> > going to get worse, as US refineries must reduce the sulphur content in
> > diesl to match Europe, etc. They'll use this as an ecuse to price it about
> > where premium is now and will kill the passenger car/light truck diesel once
> > again.
>
> Actually it's mostly because of the seasonal switch to production of home
> heating oil instead of diesel.
Here in New England diesel is cheaper than regular gasoline all summer,
and more expensive all winter.
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Re: Novak Still Lying -What Goddamn *****!
DougW <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
> Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> >>> But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
> >>> behind. <<
> >
> > Apprently in resopnse to increased sales of diesels, in the Southwest is now
> > more expensive than regular. Considering diesel is about the second step in
> > the refining process, this is pure ---- penetration on the part of the oil
> > companies. I'm told if you just let crude oil sit in the right conditions,
> > kerosene floats to the top. Diesel is simply filtered kerosene. This is
> > going to get worse, as US refineries must reduce the sulphur content in
> > diesl to match Europe, etc. They'll use this as an ecuse to price it about
> > where premium is now and will kill the passenger car/light truck diesel once
> > again.
>
> Actually it's mostly because of the seasonal switch to production of home
> heating oil instead of diesel.
Here in New England diesel is cheaper than regular gasoline all summer,
and more expensive all winter.
> Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> >>> But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
> >>> behind. <<
> >
> > Apprently in resopnse to increased sales of diesels, in the Southwest is now
> > more expensive than regular. Considering diesel is about the second step in
> > the refining process, this is pure ---- penetration on the part of the oil
> > companies. I'm told if you just let crude oil sit in the right conditions,
> > kerosene floats to the top. Diesel is simply filtered kerosene. This is
> > going to get worse, as US refineries must reduce the sulphur content in
> > diesl to match Europe, etc. They'll use this as an ecuse to price it about
> > where premium is now and will kill the passenger car/light truck diesel once
> > again.
>
> Actually it's mostly because of the seasonal switch to production of home
> heating oil instead of diesel.
Here in New England diesel is cheaper than regular gasoline all summer,
and more expensive all winter.
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Re: Novak Still Lying -What Goddamn *****!
DougW <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
> Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> >>> But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
> >>> behind. <<
> >
> > Apprently in resopnse to increased sales of diesels, in the Southwest is now
> > more expensive than regular. Considering diesel is about the second step in
> > the refining process, this is pure ---- penetration on the part of the oil
> > companies. I'm told if you just let crude oil sit in the right conditions,
> > kerosene floats to the top. Diesel is simply filtered kerosene. This is
> > going to get worse, as US refineries must reduce the sulphur content in
> > diesl to match Europe, etc. They'll use this as an ecuse to price it about
> > where premium is now and will kill the passenger car/light truck diesel once
> > again.
>
> Actually it's mostly because of the seasonal switch to production of home
> heating oil instead of diesel.
Here in New England diesel is cheaper than regular gasoline all summer,
and more expensive all winter.
> Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> >>> But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
> >>> behind. <<
> >
> > Apprently in resopnse to increased sales of diesels, in the Southwest is now
> > more expensive than regular. Considering diesel is about the second step in
> > the refining process, this is pure ---- penetration on the part of the oil
> > companies. I'm told if you just let crude oil sit in the right conditions,
> > kerosene floats to the top. Diesel is simply filtered kerosene. This is
> > going to get worse, as US refineries must reduce the sulphur content in
> > diesl to match Europe, etc. They'll use this as an ecuse to price it about
> > where premium is now and will kill the passenger car/light truck diesel once
> > again.
>
> Actually it's mostly because of the seasonal switch to production of home
> heating oil instead of diesel.
Here in New England diesel is cheaper than regular gasoline all summer,
and more expensive all winter.