Wblane

I know this is probably going to get me in trouble here but:

I has always heard diesel engines had more low-end torque and diesel gets
better MPG. If that's true why couldn't they just add a catcon or something to
bring the emissions in line?

>Whatever the rest of North America decides, I want a diesel TJ. Right or
>wrong. But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
>behind.


-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

Wblane

I know this is probably going to get me in trouble here but:

I has always heard diesel engines had more low-end torque and diesel gets
better MPG. If that's true why couldn't they just add a catcon or something to
bring the emissions in line?

>Whatever the rest of North America decides, I want a diesel TJ. Right or
>wrong. But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
>behind.


-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

Wblane

I know this is probably going to get me in trouble here but:

I has always heard diesel engines had more low-end torque and diesel gets
better MPG. If that's true why couldn't they just add a catcon or something to
bring the emissions in line?

>Whatever the rest of North America decides, I want a diesel TJ. Right or
>wrong. But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
>behind.


-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Bill,
The exhaust pipes scrubber would be larger than the car. Our air
not bad because so far there's not many diesels on the road. But just
imagine if we let everyone burn coal in our homes to heat them, just
because it's more economical. We'd look like Europe!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wblane wrote:
>
> I know this is probably going to get me in trouble here but:
>
> I has always heard diesel engines had more low-end torque and diesel gets
> better MPG. If that's true why couldn't they just add a catcon or something to
> bring the emissions in line?
>
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Bill,
The exhaust pipes scrubber would be larger than the car. Our air
not bad because so far there's not many diesels on the road. But just
imagine if we let everyone burn coal in our homes to heat them, just
because it's more economical. We'd look like Europe!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wblane wrote:
>
> I know this is probably going to get me in trouble here but:
>
> I has always heard diesel engines had more low-end torque and diesel gets
> better MPG. If that's true why couldn't they just add a catcon or something to
> bring the emissions in line?
>
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Bill,
The exhaust pipes scrubber would be larger than the car. Our air
not bad because so far there's not many diesels on the road. But just
imagine if we let everyone burn coal in our homes to heat them, just
because it's more economical. We'd look like Europe!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wblane wrote:
>
> I know this is probably going to get me in trouble here but:
>
> I has always heard diesel engines had more low-end torque and diesel gets
> better MPG. If that's true why couldn't they just add a catcon or something to
> bring the emissions in line?
>
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

Jerry McG

>> But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
>> behind. <<

Apprently in resopnse to increased sales of diesels, in the Southwest is now
more expensive than regular. Considering diesel is about the second step in
the refining process, this is pure ---- penetration on the part of the oil
companies. I'm told if you just let crude oil sit in the right conditions,
kerosene floats to the top. Diesel is simply filtered kerosene. This is
going to get worse, as US refineries must reduce the sulphur content in
diesl to match Europe, etc. They'll use this as an ecuse to price it about
where premium is now and will kill the passenger car/light truck diesel once
again.
>
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

Jerry McG

>> But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
>> behind. <<

Apprently in resopnse to increased sales of diesels, in the Southwest is now
more expensive than regular. Considering diesel is about the second step in
the refining process, this is pure ---- penetration on the part of the oil
companies. I'm told if you just let crude oil sit in the right conditions,
kerosene floats to the top. Diesel is simply filtered kerosene. This is
going to get worse, as US refineries must reduce the sulphur content in
diesl to match Europe, etc. They'll use this as an ecuse to price it about
where premium is now and will kill the passenger car/light truck diesel once
again.
>
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

Jerry McG

>> But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
>> behind. <<

Apprently in resopnse to increased sales of diesels, in the Southwest is now
more expensive than regular. Considering diesel is about the second step in
the refining process, this is pure ---- penetration on the part of the oil
companies. I'm told if you just let crude oil sit in the right conditions,
kerosene floats to the top. Diesel is simply filtered kerosene. This is
going to get worse, as US refineries must reduce the sulphur content in
diesl to match Europe, etc. They'll use this as an ecuse to price it about
where premium is now and will kill the passenger car/light truck diesel once
again.
>
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

DougW

Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
>>> But when fuel here is priced like fuel in Europe, you'll be following
>>> behind. <<
>
> Apprently in resopnse to increased sales of diesels, in the Southwest is now
> more expensive than regular. Considering diesel is about the second step in
> the refining process, this is pure ---- penetration on the part of the oil
> companies. I'm told if you just let crude oil sit in the right conditions,
> kerosene floats to the top. Diesel is simply filtered kerosene. This is
> going to get worse, as US refineries must reduce the sulphur content in
> diesl to match Europe, etc. They'll use this as an ecuse to price it about
> where premium is now and will kill the passenger car/light truck diesel once
> again.

Actually it's mostly because of the seasonal switch to production of home
heating oil instead of diesel. Both are essentially the same process and you
can't split one from the other like you can diesel/gasoline they are just too
close. Also diesel is under pressure to go "botique". Special blends for
every damn jurisdiction.

Basically because of the loss of gulf platforms we are farked for the next
few years till they can rebuild. Lost a lot of oil production when those
platforms were sunk.

--
DougW