Re: Not a poser!
 

Leaf spring terminology for you TJ guys :).

Terry.


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:zMBub.25038$C14.1063699@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Hmmm...stumped on two new acronyms...SUA...SOA?????
> What is wrong with me...I am not that new to wheelin.... ;)
>
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>
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:plAub.6298$n56.3354@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> | > Dual 60's. Hard Core! And beaucoup dollares!
> |
> | Yep, not cheap that is for sure. That's why I only make one major
> mod a
> | year.
> |
> | > Yeah, sounds nice. What size tires you looking to swing?
> |
> | Swingin 35" right now, but may step up to 37" and go SOA next
> spring.
> |
> | > But did you yourself experience any bad performance from them?
> |
> | Not I didn't experience any bad performance with them, but never
> really put
> | them to the test since I lived in a place then that had extremely
> limited
> | wheeling opportunities. I may slip them back on eventually.
> |
> | > Yeah, but MY driveshafts are Tom Woods ones made from Super
> | Unbreakatanium!
> |
> | Tom makes good stuff. This time, however, for the front driveshaft
> I went
> | with High Angle Driveline: http://www.highangledriveline.com
> | They came highly recommended by Dynatrac and some rock-crawlin
> crowds, and
> | advertise higher angles than Tom Woods with the 1350 u-joints and
> yokes. It
> | costs a few bucks more, but this friggin driveshaft is MASSIVE!
> When I
> | opened the package my first response was "holy sh*t!!" The tube is
> 3" wide
> | from the t-case down to the boot.
> |
> | > That Pirate group seems to have a mob mentality about 'em, for
> some odd
> | > reason. I have zero problem with body roll and axle wrap with the
> | > Revolvers.
> |
> | You are right. That is why I don't hang out there often. Too many
> loud
> | mouths there for me.
> |
> | > I'll try it out in Rowher Flats soon, which is known for some
> longer
> | > steep trails, and report back.
> |
> | Sounds good. I may go SOA myself soon. What springs & lift are you
> using?
> |
> | > Too much is never enough! They were the first thing I put on,
> before the
> | > SOA. What can I say, I like having all four wheels on the ground
> as much
> | > as possible. And they don't just drop loose, like some of the
> physics
> | > experts on the Pirate boards think. It actually takes a lot of
> force to
> | > fully extend them, and they wouldn't be drooping/stuffing if they
> | > weren't conforming to the terrain. I haven't noticed the lack of
> | > traction some say is supposed to happen.
> |
> | Yup, just be sure to make the other necessary mods that some folks
> neglect
> | like longer extending driveshaft, longer brake lines, etc.
> |
> | > On the other hand, I haven't given it a true acid test yet. I'll
> be on
> | > the lookout for alligators!
> |
> | Good luck to ya! Maybe we'll meet on the trails one day!
> |
> | Terry.
> |
> |
> |
> |
>

Re: Not a poser!
 

Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>>Dual 60's. Hard Core! And beaucoup dollares!
>
>
> Yep, not cheap that is for sure. That's why I only make one major mod a
> year.
>
>
>>Yeah, sounds nice. What size tires you looking to swing?
>
>
> Swingin 35" right now, but may step up to 37" and go SOA next spring.

How do 5.13s and 35s go together? How's your 4th and 5th on the freeway?
>
>
>>But did you yourself experience any bad performance from them?
>
>
> Not I didn't experience any bad performance with them, but never really put
> them to the test since I lived in a place then that had extremely limited
> wheeling opportunities. I may slip them back on eventually.
>

You do have me thinking, though. I am gonna look into the possibilities
of a cable-driven lock system. Alternatively, on descent/ascent, I can
offset the tilt by 4.5" front or back just by airing up my springs.That
oughta level it right out, just like an escalator ride! :)
>
>>Yeah, but MY driveshafts are Tom Woods ones made from Super
>
> Unbreakatanium!
>
> Tom makes good stuff. This time, however, for the front driveshaft I went
> with High Angle Driveline: http://www.highangledriveline.com
> They came highly recommended by Dynatrac and some rock-crawlin crowds, and
> advertise higher angles than Tom Woods with the 1350 u-joints and yokes. It
> costs a few bucks more, but this friggin driveshaft is MASSIVE! When I
> opened the package my first response was "holy sh*t!!" The tube is 3" wide
> from the t-case down to the boot.

Dammit, that's what I want. When I got my rear shaft, I called them and
said "Is this your heavy dutiest model, guys?" I thought the sliding
spline looked a little un-beefy.
>
>
>>That Pirate group seems to have a mob mentality about 'em, for some odd
>>reason. I have zero problem with body roll and axle wrap with the
>>Revolvers.
>
>
> You are right. That is why I don't hang out there often. Too many loud
> mouths there for me.

Kinda Frat Party-ish! I am kinda diggin on the idea of the external DOM
scrapage frames some of them have, however. Takes it away from Jeepdom,
though.
>
>
>>I'll try it out in Rowher Flats soon, which is known for some longer
>>steep trails, and report back.
>
>
> Sounds good. I may go SOA myself soon. What springs & lift are you using?

The springs are two inch wide suckers the unkown PO put on to do a 2.5"
spring lift. Origin unknown. I am running no body lift, just the
combined SOA, spring lift, air springs, and 37" tires have that thing
towering over the other JPs in the club I just ran with. FRANKENJEEP!
>
>
>>Too much is never enough! They were the first thing I put on, before the
>>SOA. What can I say, I like having all four wheels on the ground as much
>>as possible. And they don't just drop loose, like some of the physics
>>experts on the Pirate boards think. It actually takes a lot of force to
>>fully extend them, and they wouldn't be drooping/stuffing if they
>>weren't conforming to the terrain. I haven't noticed the lack of
>>traction some say is supposed to happen.
>
>
> Yup, just be sure to make the other necessary mods that some folks neglect
> like longer extending driveshaft, longer brake lines, etc.

Absolutely. All vent, ARB, EBrake, and brake lines got extended and
routed for full travel. EVERYTHING changes.
>
>
>>On the other hand, I haven't given it a true acid test yet. I'll be on
>>the lookout for alligators!
>
>
> Good luck to ya! Maybe we'll meet on the trails one day!


Right on. The Dynatrac Credit Card Overlimit Club!

Re: Not a poser!
 

Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>>Dual 60's. Hard Core! And beaucoup dollares!
>
>
> Yep, not cheap that is for sure. That's why I only make one major mod a
> year.
>
>
>>Yeah, sounds nice. What size tires you looking to swing?
>
>
> Swingin 35" right now, but may step up to 37" and go SOA next spring.

How do 5.13s and 35s go together? How's your 4th and 5th on the freeway?
>
>
>>But did you yourself experience any bad performance from them?
>
>
> Not I didn't experience any bad performance with them, but never really put
> them to the test since I lived in a place then that had extremely limited
> wheeling opportunities. I may slip them back on eventually.
>

You do have me thinking, though. I am gonna look into the possibilities
of a cable-driven lock system. Alternatively, on descent/ascent, I can
offset the tilt by 4.5" front or back just by airing up my springs.That
oughta level it right out, just like an escalator ride! :)
>
>>Yeah, but MY driveshafts are Tom Woods ones made from Super
>
> Unbreakatanium!
>
> Tom makes good stuff. This time, however, for the front driveshaft I went
> with High Angle Driveline: http://www.highangledriveline.com
> They came highly recommended by Dynatrac and some rock-crawlin crowds, and
> advertise higher angles than Tom Woods with the 1350 u-joints and yokes. It
> costs a few bucks more, but this friggin driveshaft is MASSIVE! When I
> opened the package my first response was "holy sh*t!!" The tube is 3" wide
> from the t-case down to the boot.

Dammit, that's what I want. When I got my rear shaft, I called them and
said "Is this your heavy dutiest model, guys?" I thought the sliding
spline looked a little un-beefy.
>
>
>>That Pirate group seems to have a mob mentality about 'em, for some odd
>>reason. I have zero problem with body roll and axle wrap with the
>>Revolvers.
>
>
> You are right. That is why I don't hang out there often. Too many loud
> mouths there for me.

Kinda Frat Party-ish! I am kinda diggin on the idea of the external DOM
scrapage frames some of them have, however. Takes it away from Jeepdom,
though.
>
>
>>I'll try it out in Rowher Flats soon, which is known for some longer
>>steep trails, and report back.
>
>
> Sounds good. I may go SOA myself soon. What springs & lift are you using?

The springs are two inch wide suckers the unkown PO put on to do a 2.5"
spring lift. Origin unknown. I am running no body lift, just the
combined SOA, spring lift, air springs, and 37" tires have that thing
towering over the other JPs in the club I just ran with. FRANKENJEEP!
>
>
>>Too much is never enough! They were the first thing I put on, before the
>>SOA. What can I say, I like having all four wheels on the ground as much
>>as possible. And they don't just drop loose, like some of the physics
>>experts on the Pirate boards think. It actually takes a lot of force to
>>fully extend them, and they wouldn't be drooping/stuffing if they
>>weren't conforming to the terrain. I haven't noticed the lack of
>>traction some say is supposed to happen.
>
>
> Yup, just be sure to make the other necessary mods that some folks neglect
> like longer extending driveshaft, longer brake lines, etc.

Absolutely. All vent, ARB, EBrake, and brake lines got extended and
routed for full travel. EVERYTHING changes.
>
>
>>On the other hand, I haven't given it a true acid test yet. I'll be on
>>the lookout for alligators!
>
>
> Good luck to ya! Maybe we'll meet on the trails one day!


Right on. The Dynatrac Credit Card Overlimit Club!

Re: Not a poser!
 

Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>>Dual 60's. Hard Core! And beaucoup dollares!
>
>
> Yep, not cheap that is for sure. That's why I only make one major mod a
> year.
>
>
>>Yeah, sounds nice. What size tires you looking to swing?
>
>
> Swingin 35" right now, but may step up to 37" and go SOA next spring.

How do 5.13s and 35s go together? How's your 4th and 5th on the freeway?
>
>
>>But did you yourself experience any bad performance from them?
>
>
> Not I didn't experience any bad performance with them, but never really put
> them to the test since I lived in a place then that had extremely limited
> wheeling opportunities. I may slip them back on eventually.
>

You do have me thinking, though. I am gonna look into the possibilities
of a cable-driven lock system. Alternatively, on descent/ascent, I can
offset the tilt by 4.5" front or back just by airing up my springs.That
oughta level it right out, just like an escalator ride! :)
>
>>Yeah, but MY driveshafts are Tom Woods ones made from Super
>
> Unbreakatanium!
>
> Tom makes good stuff. This time, however, for the front driveshaft I went
> with High Angle Driveline: http://www.highangledriveline.com
> They came highly recommended by Dynatrac and some rock-crawlin crowds, and
> advertise higher angles than Tom Woods with the 1350 u-joints and yokes. It
> costs a few bucks more, but this friggin driveshaft is MASSIVE! When I
> opened the package my first response was "holy sh*t!!" The tube is 3" wide
> from the t-case down to the boot.

Dammit, that's what I want. When I got my rear shaft, I called them and
said "Is this your heavy dutiest model, guys?" I thought the sliding
spline looked a little un-beefy.
>
>
>>That Pirate group seems to have a mob mentality about 'em, for some odd
>>reason. I have zero problem with body roll and axle wrap with the
>>Revolvers.
>
>
> You are right. That is why I don't hang out there often. Too many loud
> mouths there for me.

Kinda Frat Party-ish! I am kinda diggin on the idea of the external DOM
scrapage frames some of them have, however. Takes it away from Jeepdom,
though.
>
>
>>I'll try it out in Rowher Flats soon, which is known for some longer
>>steep trails, and report back.
>
>
> Sounds good. I may go SOA myself soon. What springs & lift are you using?

The springs are two inch wide suckers the unkown PO put on to do a 2.5"
spring lift. Origin unknown. I am running no body lift, just the
combined SOA, spring lift, air springs, and 37" tires have that thing
towering over the other JPs in the club I just ran with. FRANKENJEEP!
>
>
>>Too much is never enough! They were the first thing I put on, before the
>>SOA. What can I say, I like having all four wheels on the ground as much
>>as possible. And they don't just drop loose, like some of the physics
>>experts on the Pirate boards think. It actually takes a lot of force to
>>fully extend them, and they wouldn't be drooping/stuffing if they
>>weren't conforming to the terrain. I haven't noticed the lack of
>>traction some say is supposed to happen.
>
>
> Yup, just be sure to make the other necessary mods that some folks neglect
> like longer extending driveshaft, longer brake lines, etc.

Absolutely. All vent, ARB, EBrake, and brake lines got extended and
routed for full travel. EVERYTHING changes.
>
>
>>On the other hand, I haven't given it a true acid test yet. I'll be on
>>the lookout for alligators!
>
>
> Good luck to ya! Maybe we'll meet on the trails one day!


Right on. The Dynatrac Credit Card Overlimit Club!

Re: Not a poser!
 

Joseph P wrote:

> Hmmm...stumped on two new acronyms...SUA...SOA?????
> What is wrong with me...I am not that new to wheelin.... ;)
>
SOA_ Spring Over Axle or Soon On your Ass!

SUA Spring Under Axle or Sadly Under Articulated ;-)

Re: Not a poser!
 

Joseph P wrote:

> Hmmm...stumped on two new acronyms...SUA...SOA?????
> What is wrong with me...I am not that new to wheelin.... ;)
>
SOA_ Spring Over Axle or Soon On your Ass!

SUA Spring Under Axle or Sadly Under Articulated ;-)

Re: Not a poser!
 

Joseph P wrote:

> Hmmm...stumped on two new acronyms...SUA...SOA?????
> What is wrong with me...I am not that new to wheelin.... ;)
>
SOA_ Spring Over Axle or Soon On your Ass!

SUA Spring Under Axle or Sadly Under Articulated ;-)

Re: Not a poser!
 

> How do 5.13s and 35s go together? How's your 4th and 5th on the freeway?
Suits me fine. I think they go well together, but I like the lower gearing
too. I can certainly go a little taller tires in the future also. In 5th
on the highway, I push around 2300 rpms @ 60mph, 2700rpms @70mph. I rarely
go faster than that in my Jeep.

Terry.

Re: Not a poser!
 

> How do 5.13s and 35s go together? How's your 4th and 5th on the freeway?
Suits me fine. I think they go well together, but I like the lower gearing
too. I can certainly go a little taller tires in the future also. In 5th
on the highway, I push around 2300 rpms @ 60mph, 2700rpms @70mph. I rarely
go faster than that in my Jeep.

Terry.

Re: Not a poser!
 

> How do 5.13s and 35s go together? How's your 4th and 5th on the freeway?
Suits me fine. I think they go well together, but I like the lower gearing
too. I can certainly go a little taller tires in the future also. In 5th
on the highway, I push around 2300 rpms @ 60mph, 2700rpms @70mph. I rarely
go faster than that in my Jeep.

Terry.