"new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
02-05-2004, 02:12 AM
#41
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Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
attnews wrote:
> the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its purpose and
> essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners, and the
> liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved jeep into its
> finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped that evolution
> and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad. jeep is now a
> foreign "car"
Being pissed about the Liberty is like a corvette fan being pissed about
the chevette.
As far as actual Jeeps go I fail to see how fuel injection, a wider
track, better breathing heads, and a model that comes standard with
lockers, limited slip, four wheel disk brakes, and 32" tires is not evolved.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its purpose and
> essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners, and the
> liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved jeep into its
> finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped that evolution
> and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad. jeep is now a
> foreign "car"
Being pissed about the Liberty is like a corvette fan being pissed about
the chevette.
As far as actual Jeeps go I fail to see how fuel injection, a wider
track, better breathing heads, and a model that comes standard with
lockers, limited slip, four wheel disk brakes, and 32" tires is not evolved.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-05-2004, 02:12 AM
#42
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Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
attnews wrote:
> the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its purpose and
> essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners, and the
> liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved jeep into its
> finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped that evolution
> and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad. jeep is now a
> foreign "car"
Being pissed about the Liberty is like a corvette fan being pissed about
the chevette.
As far as actual Jeeps go I fail to see how fuel injection, a wider
track, better breathing heads, and a model that comes standard with
lockers, limited slip, four wheel disk brakes, and 32" tires is not evolved.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its purpose and
> essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners, and the
> liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved jeep into its
> finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped that evolution
> and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad. jeep is now a
> foreign "car"
Being pissed about the Liberty is like a corvette fan being pissed about
the chevette.
As far as actual Jeeps go I fail to see how fuel injection, a wider
track, better breathing heads, and a model that comes standard with
lockers, limited slip, four wheel disk brakes, and 32" tires is not evolved.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-05-2004, 02:12 AM
#43
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Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
attnews wrote:
> the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its purpose and
> essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners, and the
> liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved jeep into its
> finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped that evolution
> and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad. jeep is now a
> foreign "car"
Being pissed about the Liberty is like a corvette fan being pissed about
the chevette.
As far as actual Jeeps go I fail to see how fuel injection, a wider
track, better breathing heads, and a model that comes standard with
lockers, limited slip, four wheel disk brakes, and 32" tires is not evolved.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its purpose and
> essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners, and the
> liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved jeep into its
> finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped that evolution
> and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad. jeep is now a
> foreign "car"
Being pissed about the Liberty is like a corvette fan being pissed about
the chevette.
As far as actual Jeeps go I fail to see how fuel injection, a wider
track, better breathing heads, and a model that comes standard with
lockers, limited slip, four wheel disk brakes, and 32" tires is not evolved.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-05-2004, 02:32 AM
#44
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Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
Simon, it's a Jeep thing, you just couldn't understand. And if General
Motors had put a Corvette badge on a Chevette, you can bet they would
have come unglued.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Being pissed about the Liberty is like a corvette fan being pissed about
> the chevette.
>
> As far as actual Jeeps go I fail to see how fuel injection, a wider
> track, better breathing heads, and a model that comes standard with
> lockers, limited slip, four wheel disk brakes, and 32" tires is not evolved.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Motors had put a Corvette badge on a Chevette, you can bet they would
have come unglued.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Being pissed about the Liberty is like a corvette fan being pissed about
> the chevette.
>
> As far as actual Jeeps go I fail to see how fuel injection, a wider
> track, better breathing heads, and a model that comes standard with
> lockers, limited slip, four wheel disk brakes, and 32" tires is not evolved.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-05-2004, 02:32 AM
#45
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Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
Simon, it's a Jeep thing, you just couldn't understand. And if General
Motors had put a Corvette badge on a Chevette, you can bet they would
have come unglued.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Being pissed about the Liberty is like a corvette fan being pissed about
> the chevette.
>
> As far as actual Jeeps go I fail to see how fuel injection, a wider
> track, better breathing heads, and a model that comes standard with
> lockers, limited slip, four wheel disk brakes, and 32" tires is not evolved.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Motors had put a Corvette badge on a Chevette, you can bet they would
have come unglued.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Being pissed about the Liberty is like a corvette fan being pissed about
> the chevette.
>
> As far as actual Jeeps go I fail to see how fuel injection, a wider
> track, better breathing heads, and a model that comes standard with
> lockers, limited slip, four wheel disk brakes, and 32" tires is not evolved.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-05-2004, 02:32 AM
#46
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Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
Simon, it's a Jeep thing, you just couldn't understand. And if General
Motors had put a Corvette badge on a Chevette, you can bet they would
have come unglued.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Being pissed about the Liberty is like a corvette fan being pissed about
> the chevette.
>
> As far as actual Jeeps go I fail to see how fuel injection, a wider
> track, better breathing heads, and a model that comes standard with
> lockers, limited slip, four wheel disk brakes, and 32" tires is not evolved.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Motors had put a Corvette badge on a Chevette, you can bet they would
have come unglued.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Being pissed about the Liberty is like a corvette fan being pissed about
> the chevette.
>
> As far as actual Jeeps go I fail to see how fuel injection, a wider
> track, better breathing heads, and a model that comes standard with
> lockers, limited slip, four wheel disk brakes, and 32" tires is not evolved.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-05-2004, 03:26 AM
#47
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Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Simon, it's a Jeep thing, you just couldn't understand. And if General
> Motors had put a Corvette badge on a Chevette, you can bet they would
> have come unglued.
Actually I think it's an old thing that I wouldn't understand ;) I get
the Jeep thing... I just don't limit the Jeep thing to vehicles that
qualify for an Antique license plate. The Corvette and Chevette shared
the chevy bow tie, like it or not Jeep is a brand these days not just a
model.
You're stuck on ****** and think anything newer is by definition not as
good. "attnews" is stuck on AMC and thinks anything newer is not as
good. Some day someone here will be chiding some owner of a 2025 Jeep
"AJ" (manufactured by those idiots at the FordCooperMazdaDaimler
corporation no doubt) about the fact that the TJ Rubicons were the last
"Real Jeep". And how the coil suspension is far superior to the "AJ's"
Fully independent, variable wheel base, solid non-axial inertial damping
wheel arms. And how good ol' fuel injection was much better than the new
fangled Solid fuel atomizing combustion system. I just hope it's not me.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> Simon, it's a Jeep thing, you just couldn't understand. And if General
> Motors had put a Corvette badge on a Chevette, you can bet they would
> have come unglued.
Actually I think it's an old thing that I wouldn't understand ;) I get
the Jeep thing... I just don't limit the Jeep thing to vehicles that
qualify for an Antique license plate. The Corvette and Chevette shared
the chevy bow tie, like it or not Jeep is a brand these days not just a
model.
You're stuck on ****** and think anything newer is by definition not as
good. "attnews" is stuck on AMC and thinks anything newer is not as
good. Some day someone here will be chiding some owner of a 2025 Jeep
"AJ" (manufactured by those idiots at the FordCooperMazdaDaimler
corporation no doubt) about the fact that the TJ Rubicons were the last
"Real Jeep". And how the coil suspension is far superior to the "AJ's"
Fully independent, variable wheel base, solid non-axial inertial damping
wheel arms. And how good ol' fuel injection was much better than the new
fangled Solid fuel atomizing combustion system. I just hope it's not me.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-05-2004, 03:26 AM
#48
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Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Simon, it's a Jeep thing, you just couldn't understand. And if General
> Motors had put a Corvette badge on a Chevette, you can bet they would
> have come unglued.
Actually I think it's an old thing that I wouldn't understand ;) I get
the Jeep thing... I just don't limit the Jeep thing to vehicles that
qualify for an Antique license plate. The Corvette and Chevette shared
the chevy bow tie, like it or not Jeep is a brand these days not just a
model.
You're stuck on ****** and think anything newer is by definition not as
good. "attnews" is stuck on AMC and thinks anything newer is not as
good. Some day someone here will be chiding some owner of a 2025 Jeep
"AJ" (manufactured by those idiots at the FordCooperMazdaDaimler
corporation no doubt) about the fact that the TJ Rubicons were the last
"Real Jeep". And how the coil suspension is far superior to the "AJ's"
Fully independent, variable wheel base, solid non-axial inertial damping
wheel arms. And how good ol' fuel injection was much better than the new
fangled Solid fuel atomizing combustion system. I just hope it's not me.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> Simon, it's a Jeep thing, you just couldn't understand. And if General
> Motors had put a Corvette badge on a Chevette, you can bet they would
> have come unglued.
Actually I think it's an old thing that I wouldn't understand ;) I get
the Jeep thing... I just don't limit the Jeep thing to vehicles that
qualify for an Antique license plate. The Corvette and Chevette shared
the chevy bow tie, like it or not Jeep is a brand these days not just a
model.
You're stuck on ****** and think anything newer is by definition not as
good. "attnews" is stuck on AMC and thinks anything newer is not as
good. Some day someone here will be chiding some owner of a 2025 Jeep
"AJ" (manufactured by those idiots at the FordCooperMazdaDaimler
corporation no doubt) about the fact that the TJ Rubicons were the last
"Real Jeep". And how the coil suspension is far superior to the "AJ's"
Fully independent, variable wheel base, solid non-axial inertial damping
wheel arms. And how good ol' fuel injection was much better than the new
fangled Solid fuel atomizing combustion system. I just hope it's not me.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-05-2004, 03:26 AM
#49
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Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Simon, it's a Jeep thing, you just couldn't understand. And if General
> Motors had put a Corvette badge on a Chevette, you can bet they would
> have come unglued.
Actually I think it's an old thing that I wouldn't understand ;) I get
the Jeep thing... I just don't limit the Jeep thing to vehicles that
qualify for an Antique license plate. The Corvette and Chevette shared
the chevy bow tie, like it or not Jeep is a brand these days not just a
model.
You're stuck on ****** and think anything newer is by definition not as
good. "attnews" is stuck on AMC and thinks anything newer is not as
good. Some day someone here will be chiding some owner of a 2025 Jeep
"AJ" (manufactured by those idiots at the FordCooperMazdaDaimler
corporation no doubt) about the fact that the TJ Rubicons were the last
"Real Jeep". And how the coil suspension is far superior to the "AJ's"
Fully independent, variable wheel base, solid non-axial inertial damping
wheel arms. And how good ol' fuel injection was much better than the new
fangled Solid fuel atomizing combustion system. I just hope it's not me.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> Simon, it's a Jeep thing, you just couldn't understand. And if General
> Motors had put a Corvette badge on a Chevette, you can bet they would
> have come unglued.
Actually I think it's an old thing that I wouldn't understand ;) I get
the Jeep thing... I just don't limit the Jeep thing to vehicles that
qualify for an Antique license plate. The Corvette and Chevette shared
the chevy bow tie, like it or not Jeep is a brand these days not just a
model.
You're stuck on ****** and think anything newer is by definition not as
good. "attnews" is stuck on AMC and thinks anything newer is not as
good. Some day someone here will be chiding some owner of a 2025 Jeep
"AJ" (manufactured by those idiots at the FordCooperMazdaDaimler
corporation no doubt) about the fact that the TJ Rubicons were the last
"Real Jeep". And how the coil suspension is far superior to the "AJ's"
Fully independent, variable wheel base, solid non-axial inertial damping
wheel arms. And how good ol' fuel injection was much better than the new
fangled Solid fuel atomizing combustion system. I just hope it's not me.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-05-2004, 05:28 AM
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Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
In <4021FE42.6060000@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerol s.com> Simon Juncal
wrote:
> You're stuck on ****** and think anything newer is by definition not
> as good. "attnews" is stuck on AMC and thinks anything newer is not
> as good. Some day someone here will be chiding some owner of a 2025
> Jeep "AJ" (manufactured by those idiots at the FordCooperMazdaDaimler
> corporation no doubt) about the fact that the TJ Rubicons were the
> last "Real Jeep". And how the coil suspension is far superior to the
> "AJ's" Fully independent, variable wheel base, solid non-axial
> inertial damping wheel arms. And how good ol' fuel injection was much
> better than the new fangled Solid fuel atomizing combustion system. I
> just hope it's not me.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
While I couldn't agree more, I believe it is clear that history will
judge the TJ Rubicon to have been the last, best Jeep. Good RAH quote,
btw.
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wrote:
> You're stuck on ****** and think anything newer is by definition not
> as good. "attnews" is stuck on AMC and thinks anything newer is not
> as good. Some day someone here will be chiding some owner of a 2025
> Jeep "AJ" (manufactured by those idiots at the FordCooperMazdaDaimler
> corporation no doubt) about the fact that the TJ Rubicons were the
> last "Real Jeep". And how the coil suspension is far superior to the
> "AJ's" Fully independent, variable wheel base, solid non-axial
> inertial damping wheel arms. And how good ol' fuel injection was much
> better than the new fangled Solid fuel atomizing combustion system. I
> just hope it's not me.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
While I couldn't agree more, I believe it is clear that history will
judge the TJ Rubicon to have been the last, best Jeep. Good RAH quote,
btw.
----------------------------------------------------
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