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j carter 02-03-2004 09:48 AM

"new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
Ripoff or what? You decide.
Why all the fuss over the new Wrangler Unlimited? AMC did the same thing
over 25 years ago and called it the CJ6. I can see Chrysler's point, though.
Why spend money on engineering innovation when we can just resurrect (steal)
good ideas from someone else?



Robert Bills 02-03-2004 10:08 AM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
>Ripoff or what? You decide.
>Why all the fuss over the new Wrangler Unlimited? AMC did the same thing
>over 25 years ago and called it the CJ6. I can see Chrysler's point, though.
>Why spend money on engineering innovation when we can just resurrect (steal)
>good ideas from someone else?


1. Willys introduced the CJ-6, not AMC. AMC built the CJ-8.

2. Chrysler bought out AMC, which bought out Kaiser, which bought the model
designations, designs, the name "Jeep", etc. from from Willys.

Where's the ripoff?


Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com

Robert Bills 02-03-2004 10:08 AM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
>Ripoff or what? You decide.
>Why all the fuss over the new Wrangler Unlimited? AMC did the same thing
>over 25 years ago and called it the CJ6. I can see Chrysler's point, though.
>Why spend money on engineering innovation when we can just resurrect (steal)
>good ideas from someone else?


1. Willys introduced the CJ-6, not AMC. AMC built the CJ-8.

2. Chrysler bought out AMC, which bought out Kaiser, which bought the model
designations, designs, the name "Jeep", etc. from from Willys.

Where's the ripoff?


Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com

Robert Bills 02-03-2004 10:08 AM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
>Ripoff or what? You decide.
>Why all the fuss over the new Wrangler Unlimited? AMC did the same thing
>over 25 years ago and called it the CJ6. I can see Chrysler's point, though.
>Why spend money on engineering innovation when we can just resurrect (steal)
>good ideas from someone else?


1. Willys introduced the CJ-6, not AMC. AMC built the CJ-8.

2. Chrysler bought out AMC, which bought out Kaiser, which bought the model
designations, designs, the name "Jeep", etc. from from Willys.

Where's the ripoff?


Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com

attnews 02-03-2004 02:04 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its purpose and
essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners, and the
liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved jeep into its
finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped that evolution
and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad. jeep is now a
foreign "car"
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20040203100838.24654.00001313@mb-m16.aol.com...
> >Ripoff or what? You decide.
> >Why all the fuss over the new Wrangler Unlimited? AMC did the same thing
> >over 25 years ago and called it the CJ6. I can see Chrysler's point,

though.
> >Why spend money on engineering innovation when we can just resurrect

(steal)
> >good ideas from someone else?

>
> 1. Willys introduced the CJ-6, not AMC. AMC built the CJ-8.
>
> 2. Chrysler bought out AMC, which bought out Kaiser, which bought the

model
> designations, designs, the name "Jeep", etc. from from Willys.
>
> Where's the ripoff?
>
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com




attnews 02-03-2004 02:04 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its purpose and
essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners, and the
liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved jeep into its
finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped that evolution
and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad. jeep is now a
foreign "car"
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20040203100838.24654.00001313@mb-m16.aol.com...
> >Ripoff or what? You decide.
> >Why all the fuss over the new Wrangler Unlimited? AMC did the same thing
> >over 25 years ago and called it the CJ6. I can see Chrysler's point,

though.
> >Why spend money on engineering innovation when we can just resurrect

(steal)
> >good ideas from someone else?

>
> 1. Willys introduced the CJ-6, not AMC. AMC built the CJ-8.
>
> 2. Chrysler bought out AMC, which bought out Kaiser, which bought the

model
> designations, designs, the name "Jeep", etc. from from Willys.
>
> Where's the ripoff?
>
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com




attnews 02-03-2004 02:04 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its purpose and
essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners, and the
liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved jeep into its
finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped that evolution
and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad. jeep is now a
foreign "car"
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20040203100838.24654.00001313@mb-m16.aol.com...
> >Ripoff or what? You decide.
> >Why all the fuss over the new Wrangler Unlimited? AMC did the same thing
> >over 25 years ago and called it the CJ6. I can see Chrysler's point,

though.
> >Why spend money on engineering innovation when we can just resurrect

(steal)
> >good ideas from someone else?

>
> 1. Willys introduced the CJ-6, not AMC. AMC built the CJ-8.
>
> 2. Chrysler bought out AMC, which bought out Kaiser, which bought the

model
> designations, designs, the name "Jeep", etc. from from Willys.
>
> Where's the ripoff?
>
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-03-2004 03:18 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
Hi John,
And most the people on this new group are under the illusion that
Dieter will bring out a new Grand Cherokee for '05, some rumors have
them stretching it and give it another seat, well, I got news for them
it's the Libby, and the WJ will go the way of the classic XJ, and the
rest of the Js.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

attnews wrote:
>
> the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its purpose and
> essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners, and the
> liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved jeep into its
> finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped that evolution
> and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad. jeep is now a
> foreign "car"


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-03-2004 03:18 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
Hi John,
And most the people on this new group are under the illusion that
Dieter will bring out a new Grand Cherokee for '05, some rumors have
them stretching it and give it another seat, well, I got news for them
it's the Libby, and the WJ will go the way of the classic XJ, and the
rest of the Js.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

attnews wrote:
>
> the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its purpose and
> essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners, and the
> liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved jeep into its
> finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped that evolution
> and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad. jeep is now a
> foreign "car"


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-03-2004 03:18 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
Hi John,
And most the people on this new group are under the illusion that
Dieter will bring out a new Grand Cherokee for '05, some rumors have
them stretching it and give it another seat, well, I got news for them
it's the Libby, and the WJ will go the way of the classic XJ, and the
rest of the Js.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

attnews wrote:
>
> the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its purpose and
> essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners, and the
> liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved jeep into its
> finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped that evolution
> and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad. jeep is now a
> foreign "car"



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