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CRWLR 02-04-2004 06:33 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
Yes, wouldn't that be cool? An Unlimited Rubicon. I can't see any reason why
the Rubi options could not be installed on the Unlimited.



"Dan Ferrell" <dkf92@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:GleUb.2326$8a5.558@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>
> I can't see the rip off idea either. I for one am glad that they are
> bringing back a longer wheel base jeep. They just need to do it in the
> rubicon package.
>
> Dan Ferrell
> 84 CJ
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1022oi2keml4h9f@corp.supernews.com...
> > But, what is the rip off relative to the Unlimited? Hint: there is

none.
> >
> > You (and apparently only you) seem to think that AMC is the car

company
> of
> > the century when clearly they are not. The fact remains that the

> Unlimited
> > is a revival of the Scrambler idea, which grew out of the CJ6 idea. I

> see no
> > rip off relative to the Unlimited, but I do agree that the Liberty is

a
> bad
> > idea from the perspective of offroading, but it seems to be a pretty
> > successful idea anyhow.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:hhSTb.51238$6O4.1526299@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep is

> for.
> > > All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its purpose

and
> > > essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners, and

> the
> > > liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved jeep

into
> its
> > > finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped that

> > evolution
> > > and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad. jeep

is
> now
> > a
> > > foreign "car"
> > > "Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:20040203100838.24654.00001313@mb-m16.aol.com...
> > > > >Ripoff or what? You decide.
> > > > >Why all the fuss over the new Wrangler Unlimited? AMC did the

same
> > thing
> > > > >over 25 years ago and called it the CJ6. I can see Chrysler's

> point,
> > > though.
> > > > >Why spend money on engineering innovation when we can just

> resurrect
> > > (steal)
> > > > >good ideas from someone else?
> > > >
> > > > 1. Willys introduced the CJ-6, not AMC. AMC built the CJ-8.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Chrysler bought out AMC, which bought out Kaiser, which bought

> the
> > > model
> > > > designations, designs, the name "Jeep", etc. from from Willys.
> > > >
> > > > Where's the ripoff?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robert Bills
> > > > KG6LMV
> > > > Orange County CA
> > > >
> > > > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > > > http://www.RobertBills.com
> > >
> > >

> >

>
>



Dan Ferrell 02-04-2004 06:45 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 

Thats what I'm waiting to see. I came real close to getting rid of the CJ
and buying the rubicon, but decided to wait on the unlimited and in a
rubicon package.


"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10230bso3gnd473@corp.supernews.com...
> Yes, wouldn't that be cool? An Unlimited Rubicon. I can't see any reason

why
> the Rubi options could not be installed on the Unlimited.
>
>
>
> "Dan Ferrell" <dkf92@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:GleUb.2326$8a5.558@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> >
> > I can't see the rip off idea either. I for one am glad that they

are
> > bringing back a longer wheel base jeep. They just need to do it in

the
> > rubicon package.
> >
> > Dan Ferrell
> > 84 CJ
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1022oi2keml4h9f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > But, what is the rip off relative to the Unlimited? Hint: there is

> none.
> > >
> > > You (and apparently only you) seem to think that AMC is the car

> company
> > of
> > > the century when clearly they are not. The fact remains that the

> > Unlimited
> > > is a revival of the Scrambler idea, which grew out of the CJ6

idea. I
> > see no
> > > rip off relative to the Unlimited, but I do agree that the Liberty

is
> a
> > bad
> > > idea from the perspective of offroading, but it seems to be a

pretty
> > > successful idea anyhow.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > news:hhSTb.51238$6O4.1526299@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > > the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep

is
> > for.
> > > > All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its

purpose
> and
> > > > essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners,

and
> > the
> > > > liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved

jeep
> into
> > its
> > > > finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped

that
> > > evolution
> > > > and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad.

jeep
> is
> > now
> > > a
> > > > foreign "car"
> > > > "Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > > news:20040203100838.24654.00001313@mb-m16.aol.com...
> > > > > >Ripoff or what? You decide.
> > > > > >Why all the fuss over the new Wrangler Unlimited? AMC did the

> same
> > > thing
> > > > > >over 25 years ago and called it the CJ6. I can see Chrysler's

> > point,
> > > > though.
> > > > > >Why spend money on engineering innovation when we can just

> > resurrect
> > > > (steal)
> > > > > >good ideas from someone else?
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Willys introduced the CJ-6, not AMC. AMC built the CJ-8.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Chrysler bought out AMC, which bought out Kaiser, which

bought
> > the
> > > > model
> > > > > designations, designs, the name "Jeep", etc. from from Willys.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where's the ripoff?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert Bills
> > > > > KG6LMV
> > > > > Orange County CA
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > > > > http://www.RobertBills.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>




Dan Ferrell 02-04-2004 06:45 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 

Thats what I'm waiting to see. I came real close to getting rid of the CJ
and buying the rubicon, but decided to wait on the unlimited and in a
rubicon package.


"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10230bso3gnd473@corp.supernews.com...
> Yes, wouldn't that be cool? An Unlimited Rubicon. I can't see any reason

why
> the Rubi options could not be installed on the Unlimited.
>
>
>
> "Dan Ferrell" <dkf92@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:GleUb.2326$8a5.558@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> >
> > I can't see the rip off idea either. I for one am glad that they

are
> > bringing back a longer wheel base jeep. They just need to do it in

the
> > rubicon package.
> >
> > Dan Ferrell
> > 84 CJ
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1022oi2keml4h9f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > But, what is the rip off relative to the Unlimited? Hint: there is

> none.
> > >
> > > You (and apparently only you) seem to think that AMC is the car

> company
> > of
> > > the century when clearly they are not. The fact remains that the

> > Unlimited
> > > is a revival of the Scrambler idea, which grew out of the CJ6

idea. I
> > see no
> > > rip off relative to the Unlimited, but I do agree that the Liberty

is
> a
> > bad
> > > idea from the perspective of offroading, but it seems to be a

pretty
> > > successful idea anyhow.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > news:hhSTb.51238$6O4.1526299@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > > the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep

is
> > for.
> > > > All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its

purpose
> and
> > > > essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners,

and
> > the
> > > > liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved

jeep
> into
> > its
> > > > finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped

that
> > > evolution
> > > > and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad.

jeep
> is
> > now
> > > a
> > > > foreign "car"
> > > > "Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > > news:20040203100838.24654.00001313@mb-m16.aol.com...
> > > > > >Ripoff or what? You decide.
> > > > > >Why all the fuss over the new Wrangler Unlimited? AMC did the

> same
> > > thing
> > > > > >over 25 years ago and called it the CJ6. I can see Chrysler's

> > point,
> > > > though.
> > > > > >Why spend money on engineering innovation when we can just

> > resurrect
> > > > (steal)
> > > > > >good ideas from someone else?
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Willys introduced the CJ-6, not AMC. AMC built the CJ-8.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Chrysler bought out AMC, which bought out Kaiser, which

bought
> > the
> > > > model
> > > > > designations, designs, the name "Jeep", etc. from from Willys.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where's the ripoff?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert Bills
> > > > > KG6LMV
> > > > > Orange County CA
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > > > > http://www.RobertBills.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>




Dan Ferrell 02-04-2004 06:45 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 

Thats what I'm waiting to see. I came real close to getting rid of the CJ
and buying the rubicon, but decided to wait on the unlimited and in a
rubicon package.


"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10230bso3gnd473@corp.supernews.com...
> Yes, wouldn't that be cool? An Unlimited Rubicon. I can't see any reason

why
> the Rubi options could not be installed on the Unlimited.
>
>
>
> "Dan Ferrell" <dkf92@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:GleUb.2326$8a5.558@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> >
> > I can't see the rip off idea either. I for one am glad that they

are
> > bringing back a longer wheel base jeep. They just need to do it in

the
> > rubicon package.
> >
> > Dan Ferrell
> > 84 CJ
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1022oi2keml4h9f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > But, what is the rip off relative to the Unlimited? Hint: there is

> none.
> > >
> > > You (and apparently only you) seem to think that AMC is the car

> company
> > of
> > > the century when clearly they are not. The fact remains that the

> > Unlimited
> > > is a revival of the Scrambler idea, which grew out of the CJ6

idea. I
> > see no
> > > rip off relative to the Unlimited, but I do agree that the Liberty

is
> a
> > bad
> > > idea from the perspective of offroading, but it seems to be a

pretty
> > > successful idea anyhow.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > news:hhSTb.51238$6O4.1526299@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > > the rip-off is of the concept of what a jeep is, and what a jeep

is
> > for.
> > > > All the manufacturers you mentioned kept jeep true to its

purpose
> and
> > > > essence. Krysler has never understood jeepdom and jeep owners,

and
> > the
> > > > liberty is exhibit A and B and C and on and on. AMC evolved

jeep
> into
> > its
> > > > finest incarnation. and on many levels. krysler has stopped

that
> > > evolution
> > > > and has screwed up the lineage apparently forever. too bad.

jeep
> is
> > now
> > > a
> > > > foreign "car"
> > > > "Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > > news:20040203100838.24654.00001313@mb-m16.aol.com...
> > > > > >Ripoff or what? You decide.
> > > > > >Why all the fuss over the new Wrangler Unlimited? AMC did the

> same
> > > thing
> > > > > >over 25 years ago and called it the CJ6. I can see Chrysler's

> > point,
> > > > though.
> > > > > >Why spend money on engineering innovation when we can just

> > resurrect
> > > > (steal)
> > > > > >good ideas from someone else?
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Willys introduced the CJ-6, not AMC. AMC built the CJ-8.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Chrysler bought out AMC, which bought out Kaiser, which

bought
> > the
> > > > model
> > > > > designations, designs, the name "Jeep", etc. from from Willys.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where's the ripoff?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert Bills
> > > > > KG6LMV
> > > > > Orange County CA
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > > > > http://www.RobertBills.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-04-2004 06:49 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
Jeff, that's blasphemy! The TJ's wheel base is already a foot too long:
http://www.jeepfan.com/jeepspot.htm It'll get high centered just looking
a berm.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Yes, wouldn't that be cool? An Unlimited Rubicon. I can't see any reason why
> the Rubi options could not be installed on the Unlimited.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-04-2004 06:49 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
Jeff, that's blasphemy! The TJ's wheel base is already a foot too long:
http://www.jeepfan.com/jeepspot.htm It'll get high centered just looking
a berm.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Yes, wouldn't that be cool? An Unlimited Rubicon. I can't see any reason why
> the Rubi options could not be installed on the Unlimited.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-04-2004 06:49 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
Jeff, that's blasphemy! The TJ's wheel base is already a foot too long:
http://www.jeepfan.com/jeepspot.htm It'll get high centered just looking
a berm.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Yes, wouldn't that be cool? An Unlimited Rubicon. I can't see any reason why
> the Rubi options could not be installed on the Unlimited.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-04-2004 07:14 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
That sounds like a heck of a good excuse to me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dan Ferrell wrote:
>
> Thats what I'm waiting to see. I came real close to getting rid of the CJ
> and buying the rubicon, but decided to wait on the unlimited and in a
> rubicon package.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-04-2004 07:14 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
That sounds like a heck of a good excuse to me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dan Ferrell wrote:
>
> Thats what I'm waiting to see. I came real close to getting rid of the CJ
> and buying the rubicon, but decided to wait on the unlimited and in a
> rubicon package.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-04-2004 07:14 PM

Re: "new" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
 
That sounds like a heck of a good excuse to me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dan Ferrell wrote:
>
> Thats what I'm waiting to see. I came real close to getting rid of the CJ
> and buying the rubicon, but decided to wait on the unlimited and in a
> rubicon package.



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