new jeep - mastershield undercoat
11-24-2003, 10:56 AM
#11
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
> I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are more
prone to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. <
Utter nonsense. Modern vehicles recieve extensive and effective
rustproofing, from zinc primer dips to wax injection to moisture deflector
panels. 30 years ago they virtually recieved none. Unless they've been
damaged and improperly repaired, modern cars simply don't rot out like the
old ones did. It's just one reason why YJs & TJs will last so much longer
than Bill's beloved "Real Jeeps".
prone to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. <
Utter nonsense. Modern vehicles recieve extensive and effective
rustproofing, from zinc primer dips to wax injection to moisture deflector
panels. 30 years ago they virtually recieved none. Unless they've been
damaged and improperly repaired, modern cars simply don't rot out like the
old ones did. It's just one reason why YJs & TJs will last so much longer
than Bill's beloved "Real Jeeps".
11-24-2003, 10:56 AM
#12
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
> I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are more
prone to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. <
Utter nonsense. Modern vehicles recieve extensive and effective
rustproofing, from zinc primer dips to wax injection to moisture deflector
panels. 30 years ago they virtually recieved none. Unless they've been
damaged and improperly repaired, modern cars simply don't rot out like the
old ones did. It's just one reason why YJs & TJs will last so much longer
than Bill's beloved "Real Jeeps".
prone to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. <
Utter nonsense. Modern vehicles recieve extensive and effective
rustproofing, from zinc primer dips to wax injection to moisture deflector
panels. 30 years ago they virtually recieved none. Unless they've been
damaged and improperly repaired, modern cars simply don't rot out like the
old ones did. It's just one reason why YJs & TJs will last so much longer
than Bill's beloved "Real Jeeps".
11-24-2003, 10:56 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
> I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are more
prone to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. <
Utter nonsense. Modern vehicles recieve extensive and effective
rustproofing, from zinc primer dips to wax injection to moisture deflector
panels. 30 years ago they virtually recieved none. Unless they've been
damaged and improperly repaired, modern cars simply don't rot out like the
old ones did. It's just one reason why YJs & TJs will last so much longer
than Bill's beloved "Real Jeeps".
prone to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. <
Utter nonsense. Modern vehicles recieve extensive and effective
rustproofing, from zinc primer dips to wax injection to moisture deflector
panels. 30 years ago they virtually recieved none. Unless they've been
damaged and improperly repaired, modern cars simply don't rot out like the
old ones did. It's just one reason why YJs & TJs will last so much longer
than Bill's beloved "Real Jeeps".
11-24-2003, 11:11 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
On 24 Nov 2003 06:19 AM, Snow posted the following:
> I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are more
> prone to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. Today the sheet
> metal is thinner and weaker seams are not made the same they are just
> welded, where as on older vehicle the seam edges were rolled and
> stamped before being welded. Not to mention, if you go to the dealer
> to have every rust spot touched up you will be paying a fortune, the
> best bet is to use a liquid rust proofing like rust check (www.
> rustcheck.com ).
Yeah, right. That's why the only remaining original sheetmetal on my
'73 Chevy pickup is the hood....
The new stuff is made of thinner material but from what I can tell, it
is actually treated for corrosion resistance, unlike the older rigs, and
the manufacturers at least make an effort these days to design adequate
drainage into their vehicles. Anything will rust if the protective
coatings are breached so it is imperative that broken paint be touched
up somehow if you want to prevent rust in any vehicle.
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> I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are more
> prone to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. Today the sheet
> metal is thinner and weaker seams are not made the same they are just
> welded, where as on older vehicle the seam edges were rolled and
> stamped before being welded. Not to mention, if you go to the dealer
> to have every rust spot touched up you will be paying a fortune, the
> best bet is to use a liquid rust proofing like rust check (www.
> rustcheck.com ).
Yeah, right. That's why the only remaining original sheetmetal on my
'73 Chevy pickup is the hood....
The new stuff is made of thinner material but from what I can tell, it
is actually treated for corrosion resistance, unlike the older rigs, and
the manufacturers at least make an effort these days to design adequate
drainage into their vehicles. Anything will rust if the protective
coatings are breached so it is imperative that broken paint be touched
up somehow if you want to prevent rust in any vehicle.
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11-24-2003, 11:11 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
On 24 Nov 2003 06:19 AM, Snow posted the following:
> I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are more
> prone to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. Today the sheet
> metal is thinner and weaker seams are not made the same they are just
> welded, where as on older vehicle the seam edges were rolled and
> stamped before being welded. Not to mention, if you go to the dealer
> to have every rust spot touched up you will be paying a fortune, the
> best bet is to use a liquid rust proofing like rust check (www.
> rustcheck.com ).
Yeah, right. That's why the only remaining original sheetmetal on my
'73 Chevy pickup is the hood....
The new stuff is made of thinner material but from what I can tell, it
is actually treated for corrosion resistance, unlike the older rigs, and
the manufacturers at least make an effort these days to design adequate
drainage into their vehicles. Anything will rust if the protective
coatings are breached so it is imperative that broken paint be touched
up somehow if you want to prevent rust in any vehicle.
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> I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are more
> prone to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. Today the sheet
> metal is thinner and weaker seams are not made the same they are just
> welded, where as on older vehicle the seam edges were rolled and
> stamped before being welded. Not to mention, if you go to the dealer
> to have every rust spot touched up you will be paying a fortune, the
> best bet is to use a liquid rust proofing like rust check (www.
> rustcheck.com ).
Yeah, right. That's why the only remaining original sheetmetal on my
'73 Chevy pickup is the hood....
The new stuff is made of thinner material but from what I can tell, it
is actually treated for corrosion resistance, unlike the older rigs, and
the manufacturers at least make an effort these days to design adequate
drainage into their vehicles. Anything will rust if the protective
coatings are breached so it is imperative that broken paint be touched
up somehow if you want to prevent rust in any vehicle.
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11-24-2003, 11:11 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
On 24 Nov 2003 06:19 AM, Snow posted the following:
> I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are more
> prone to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. Today the sheet
> metal is thinner and weaker seams are not made the same they are just
> welded, where as on older vehicle the seam edges were rolled and
> stamped before being welded. Not to mention, if you go to the dealer
> to have every rust spot touched up you will be paying a fortune, the
> best bet is to use a liquid rust proofing like rust check (www.
> rustcheck.com ).
Yeah, right. That's why the only remaining original sheetmetal on my
'73 Chevy pickup is the hood....
The new stuff is made of thinner material but from what I can tell, it
is actually treated for corrosion resistance, unlike the older rigs, and
the manufacturers at least make an effort these days to design adequate
drainage into their vehicles. Anything will rust if the protective
coatings are breached so it is imperative that broken paint be touched
up somehow if you want to prevent rust in any vehicle.
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> I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are more
> prone to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. Today the sheet
> metal is thinner and weaker seams are not made the same they are just
> welded, where as on older vehicle the seam edges were rolled and
> stamped before being welded. Not to mention, if you go to the dealer
> to have every rust spot touched up you will be paying a fortune, the
> best bet is to use a liquid rust proofing like rust check (www.
> rustcheck.com ).
Yeah, right. That's why the only remaining original sheetmetal on my
'73 Chevy pickup is the hood....
The new stuff is made of thinner material but from what I can tell, it
is actually treated for corrosion resistance, unlike the older rigs, and
the manufacturers at least make an effort these days to design adequate
drainage into their vehicles. Anything will rust if the protective
coatings are breached so it is imperative that broken paint be touched
up somehow if you want to prevent rust in any vehicle.
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11-24-2003, 11:44 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
Jerry, you really don't remember Rambler's commercials where they
submerged the complete bodies in primer?
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Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Utter nonsense. Modern vehicles recieve extensive and effective
> rustproofing, from zinc primer dips to wax injection to moisture deflector
> panels. 30 years ago they virtually recieved none. Unless they've been
> damaged and improperly repaired, modern cars simply don't rot out like the
> old ones did. It's just one reason why YJs & TJs will last so much longer
> than Bill's beloved "Real Jeeps".
submerged the complete bodies in primer?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Utter nonsense. Modern vehicles recieve extensive and effective
> rustproofing, from zinc primer dips to wax injection to moisture deflector
> panels. 30 years ago they virtually recieved none. Unless they've been
> damaged and improperly repaired, modern cars simply don't rot out like the
> old ones did. It's just one reason why YJs & TJs will last so much longer
> than Bill's beloved "Real Jeeps".
11-24-2003, 11:44 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
Jerry, you really don't remember Rambler's commercials where they
submerged the complete bodies in primer?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Utter nonsense. Modern vehicles recieve extensive and effective
> rustproofing, from zinc primer dips to wax injection to moisture deflector
> panels. 30 years ago they virtually recieved none. Unless they've been
> damaged and improperly repaired, modern cars simply don't rot out like the
> old ones did. It's just one reason why YJs & TJs will last so much longer
> than Bill's beloved "Real Jeeps".
submerged the complete bodies in primer?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Utter nonsense. Modern vehicles recieve extensive and effective
> rustproofing, from zinc primer dips to wax injection to moisture deflector
> panels. 30 years ago they virtually recieved none. Unless they've been
> damaged and improperly repaired, modern cars simply don't rot out like the
> old ones did. It's just one reason why YJs & TJs will last so much longer
> than Bill's beloved "Real Jeeps".
11-24-2003, 11:44 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
Jerry, you really don't remember Rambler's commercials where they
submerged the complete bodies in primer?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Utter nonsense. Modern vehicles recieve extensive and effective
> rustproofing, from zinc primer dips to wax injection to moisture deflector
> panels. 30 years ago they virtually recieved none. Unless they've been
> damaged and improperly repaired, modern cars simply don't rot out like the
> old ones did. It's just one reason why YJs & TJs will last so much longer
> than Bill's beloved "Real Jeeps".
submerged the complete bodies in primer?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Utter nonsense. Modern vehicles recieve extensive and effective
> rustproofing, from zinc primer dips to wax injection to moisture deflector
> panels. 30 years ago they virtually recieved none. Unless they've been
> damaged and improperly repaired, modern cars simply don't rot out like the
> old ones did. It's just one reason why YJs & TJs will last so much longer
> than Bill's beloved "Real Jeeps".
11-24-2003, 11:58 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
Hey Snow! Yes, the steel is thinner today, but it's made of High
Strength Steel which is much stronger and lighter than the older sheet
metal. The automotive steel is treated for corrosion/rust MUCH better
than in the past. Zinc baths and primers make a huge difference.
Snow wrote:
> I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are
more prone
> to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. Today the sheet metal is
> thinner and weaker seams are not made the same they are just welded, where
> as on older vehicle the seam edges were rolled and stamped before being
> welded. Not to mention, if you go to the dealer to have every rust spot
> touched up you will be paying a fortune, the best bet is to use a liquid
> rust proofing like rust check (www.rustcheck.com ).
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A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
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Strength Steel which is much stronger and lighter than the older sheet
metal. The automotive steel is treated for corrosion/rust MUCH better
than in the past. Zinc baths and primers make a huge difference.
Snow wrote:
> I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are
more prone
> to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. Today the sheet metal is
> thinner and weaker seams are not made the same they are just welded, where
> as on older vehicle the seam edges were rolled and stamped before being
> welded. Not to mention, if you go to the dealer to have every rust spot
> touched up you will be paying a fortune, the best bet is to use a liquid
> rust proofing like rust check (www.rustcheck.com ).
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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