Re: Need torque verification
 

That's it man.

It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple
power bars on it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

nvrpc wrote:
>
> I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub
> assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this
> correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know
> about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my
> torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
>
> Thanks

Re: Need torque verification
 

The center spindle bolts solid to the axle. This does not load the
bearing in any way.

When I do u-joints, I don't even bother undoing that nut.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

nvrpc wrote:
>
> I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
> To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that
> used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
> assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
> requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
> roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
> precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know?
>
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > Hows this so unbelievable??
> >
> > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds
> or
> > something (bill??).
> >
> > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds
> as
> > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
> > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
> > 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
> >
> > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
> > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
> >
> >
> >
> > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the
> > hub
> > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is
> this
> > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not
> > know
> > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is
> my
> > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Need torque verification
 

The center spindle bolts solid to the axle. This does not load the
bearing in any way.

When I do u-joints, I don't even bother undoing that nut.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

nvrpc wrote:
>
> I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
> To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that
> used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
> assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
> requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
> roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
> precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know?
>
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > Hows this so unbelievable??
> >
> > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds
> or
> > something (bill??).
> >
> > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds
> as
> > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
> > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
> > 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
> >
> > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
> > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
> >
> >
> >
> > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the
> > hub
> > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is
> this
> > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not
> > know
> > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is
> my
> > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Need torque verification
 

The center spindle bolts solid to the axle. This does not load the
bearing in any way.

When I do u-joints, I don't even bother undoing that nut.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

nvrpc wrote:
>
> I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
> To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that
> used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
> assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
> requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
> roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
> precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know?
>
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > Hows this so unbelievable??
> >
> > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds
> or
> > something (bill??).
> >
> > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds
> as
> > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
> > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
> > 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
> >
> > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
> > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
> >
> >
> >
> > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the
> > hub
> > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is
> this
> > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not
> > know
> > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is
> my
> > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Need torque verification
 

The center spindle bolts solid to the axle. This does not load the
bearing in any way.

When I do u-joints, I don't even bother undoing that nut.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

nvrpc wrote:
>
> I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
> To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that
> used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
> assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
> requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
> roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
> precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know?
>
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > Hows this so unbelievable??
> >
> > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds
> or
> > something (bill??).
> >
> > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds
> as
> > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
> > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
> > 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
> >
> > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
> > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
> >
> >
> >
> > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the
> > hub
> > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is
> this
> > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not
> > know
> > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is
> my
> > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Need torque verification
 

When I bought my 36mm socket....they had 2 types one chrome and one flat
black (impact), I got the impact even though at the time I didn't have air
or an impact wrench...but I am here to tell you impact is the way to go
removing that nut. Buy or rent a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench for installation,
you really don't want your hub loose.

Sean

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40842683.83B7FC35@sympatico.ca...
> That's it man.
>
> It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple
> power bars on it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> nvrpc wrote:
> >
> > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the
hub
> > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is
this
> > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not
know
> > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is
my
> > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> >
> > Thanks

Re: Need torque verification
 

When I bought my 36mm socket....they had 2 types one chrome and one flat
black (impact), I got the impact even though at the time I didn't have air
or an impact wrench...but I am here to tell you impact is the way to go
removing that nut. Buy or rent a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench for installation,
you really don't want your hub loose.

Sean

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40842683.83B7FC35@sympatico.ca...
> That's it man.
>
> It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple
> power bars on it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> nvrpc wrote:
> >
> > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the
hub
> > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is
this
> > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not
know
> > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is
my
> > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> >
> > Thanks

Re: Need torque verification
 

When I bought my 36mm socket....they had 2 types one chrome and one flat
black (impact), I got the impact even though at the time I didn't have air
or an impact wrench...but I am here to tell you impact is the way to go
removing that nut. Buy or rent a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench for installation,
you really don't want your hub loose.

Sean

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40842683.83B7FC35@sympatico.ca...
> That's it man.
>
> It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple
> power bars on it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> nvrpc wrote:
> >
> > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the
hub
> > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is
this
> > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not
know
> > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is
my
> > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> >
> > Thanks

Re: Need torque verification
 

When I bought my 36mm socket....they had 2 types one chrome and one flat
black (impact), I got the impact even though at the time I didn't have air
or an impact wrench...but I am here to tell you impact is the way to go
removing that nut. Buy or rent a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench for installation,
you really don't want your hub loose.

Sean

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40842683.83B7FC35@sympatico.ca...
> That's it man.
>
> It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple
> power bars on it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> nvrpc wrote:
> >
> > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the
hub
> > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is
this
> > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not
know
> > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is
my
> > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> >
> > Thanks

Re: Need torque verification
 

I will have one in my hands tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Thank to all for the help provided, once again.


"Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message
news:c646dp$7vj76$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de...
> When I bought my 36mm socket....they had 2 types one chrome and one flat
> black (impact), I got the impact even though at the time I didn't have air
> or an impact wrench...but I am here to tell you impact is the way to go
> removing that nut. Buy or rent a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench for
installation,
> you really don't want your hub loose.
>
> Sean
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40842683.83B7FC35@sympatico.ca...
> > That's it man.
> >
> > It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple
> > power bars on it.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > nvrpc wrote:
> > >
> > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on
the
> hub
> > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is
> this
> > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do
not
> know
> > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two
is
> my
> > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> > >
> > > Thanks
>
>