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nvrpc 04-18-2004 10:32 PM

Need torque verification
 
I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub
assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this
correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know
about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my
torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise

Thanks



SB 04-18-2004 10:47 PM

Re: Need torque verification
 
Hows this so unbelievable??

The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds or
something (bill??).

If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds as
a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
150pounds on the nut/hub end.

I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!



"nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the

hub
> assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this
> correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not

know
> about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my
> torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
>
> Thanks
>
>




SB 04-18-2004 10:47 PM

Re: Need torque verification
 
Hows this so unbelievable??

The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds or
something (bill??).

If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds as
a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
150pounds on the nut/hub end.

I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!



"nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the

hub
> assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this
> correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not

know
> about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my
> torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
>
> Thanks
>
>




SB 04-18-2004 10:47 PM

Re: Need torque verification
 
Hows this so unbelievable??

The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds or
something (bill??).

If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds as
a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
150pounds on the nut/hub end.

I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!



"nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the

hub
> assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this
> correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not

know
> about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my
> torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
>
> Thanks
>
>




SB 04-18-2004 10:47 PM

Re: Need torque verification
 
Hows this so unbelievable??

The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds or
something (bill??).

If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds as
a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
150pounds on the nut/hub end.

I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!



"nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the

hub
> assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this
> correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not

know
> about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my
> torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
>
> Thanks
>
>




nvrpc 04-18-2004 10:57 PM

Re: Need torque verification
 
I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that
used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know?


"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> Hows this so unbelievable??
>
> The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds

or
> something (bill??).
>
> If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds

as
> a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
> your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
> 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
>
> I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
> 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
>
>
>
> "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the

> hub
> > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is

this
> > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not

> know
> > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is

my
> > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>
>




nvrpc 04-18-2004 10:57 PM

Re: Need torque verification
 
I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that
used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know?


"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> Hows this so unbelievable??
>
> The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds

or
> something (bill??).
>
> If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds

as
> a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
> your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
> 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
>
> I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
> 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
>
>
>
> "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the

> hub
> > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is

this
> > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not

> know
> > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is

my
> > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>
>




nvrpc 04-18-2004 10:57 PM

Re: Need torque verification
 
I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that
used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know?


"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> Hows this so unbelievable??
>
> The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds

or
> something (bill??).
>
> If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds

as
> a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
> your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
> 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
>
> I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
> 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
>
>
>
> "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the

> hub
> > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is

this
> > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not

> know
> > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is

my
> > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>
>




nvrpc 04-18-2004 10:57 PM

Re: Need torque verification
 
I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that
used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know?


"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> Hows this so unbelievable??
>
> The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds

or
> something (bill??).
>
> If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds

as
> a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
> your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
> 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
>
> I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
> 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
>
>
>
> "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the

> hub
> > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is

this
> > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not

> know
> > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is

my
> > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-18-2004 11:37 PM

Re: Need torque verification
 
The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are
pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is
securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice
burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

nvrpc wrote:
>
> I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
> To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that
> used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
> assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
> requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
> roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
> precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know?
>
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > Hows this so unbelievable??
> >
> > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds

> or
> > something (bill??).
> >
> > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds

> as
> > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
> > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
> > 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
> >
> > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
> > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
> >
> >
> >
> > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the

> > hub
> > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is

> this
> > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not

> > know
> > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is

> my
> > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >

> >
> >



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