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Need torque verification
I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub
assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise Thanks |
Re: Need torque verification
Hows this so unbelievable??
The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds or something (bill??). If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds as a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create 150pounds on the nut/hub end. I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > Thanks > > |
Re: Need torque verification
Hows this so unbelievable??
The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds or something (bill??). If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds as a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create 150pounds on the nut/hub end. I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > Thanks > > |
Re: Need torque verification
Hows this so unbelievable??
The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds or something (bill??). If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds as a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create 150pounds on the nut/hub end. I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > Thanks > > |
Re: Need torque verification
Hows this so unbelievable??
The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds or something (bill??). If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds as a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create 150pounds on the nut/hub end. I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > Thanks > > |
Re: Need torque verification
I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds or > something (bill??). > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds as > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > hub > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > know > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > Thanks > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds or > something (bill??). > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds as > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > hub > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > know > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > Thanks > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds or > something (bill??). > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds as > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > hub > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > know > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > Thanks > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds or > something (bill??). > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds as > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > hub > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > know > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > Thanks > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are
pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- nvrpc wrote: > > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face. > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds > or > > something (bill??). > > > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds > as > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > > hub > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > this > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > > know > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > my > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are
pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- nvrpc wrote: > > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face. > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds > or > > something (bill??). > > > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds > as > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > > hub > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > this > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > > know > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > my > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are
pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- nvrpc wrote: > > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face. > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds > or > > something (bill??). > > > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds > as > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > > hub > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > this > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > > know > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > my > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are
pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- nvrpc wrote: > > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face. > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds > or > > something (bill??). > > > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds > as > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > > hub > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > this > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > > know > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > my > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
Thanks Bill Now that makes me feel much better. It is exactly how I was
hoping. Thanks "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4083497E.767AC573@cox.net... > The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are > pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is > securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice > burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > nvrpc wrote: > > > > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face. > > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that > > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break > > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque > > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two > > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a > > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? > > > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > > > > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds > > or > > > something (bill??). > > > > > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds > > as > > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > > > > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > > > > > > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > > > hub > > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > > this > > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > > > know > > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > > my > > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
Thanks Bill Now that makes me feel much better. It is exactly how I was
hoping. Thanks "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4083497E.767AC573@cox.net... > The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are > pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is > securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice > burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > nvrpc wrote: > > > > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face. > > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that > > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break > > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque > > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two > > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a > > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? > > > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > > > > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds > > or > > > something (bill??). > > > > > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds > > as > > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > > > > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > > > > > > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > > > hub > > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > > this > > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > > > know > > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > > my > > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
Thanks Bill Now that makes me feel much better. It is exactly how I was
hoping. Thanks "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4083497E.767AC573@cox.net... > The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are > pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is > securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice > burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > nvrpc wrote: > > > > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face. > > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that > > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break > > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque > > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two > > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a > > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? > > > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > > > > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds > > or > > > something (bill??). > > > > > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds > > as > > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > > > > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > > > > > > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > > > hub > > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > > this > > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > > > know > > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > > my > > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
Thanks Bill Now that makes me feel much better. It is exactly how I was
hoping. Thanks "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4083497E.767AC573@cox.net... > The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are > pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is > securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice > burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > nvrpc wrote: > > > > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face. > > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that > > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break > > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque > > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two > > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a > > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? > > > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > > > > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds > > or > > > something (bill??). > > > > > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds > > as > > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > > > > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > > > > > > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > > > hub > > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > > this > > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > > > know > > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > > my > > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
That's it man.
It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple power bars on it. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's nvrpc wrote: > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > Thanks |
Re: Need torque verification
That's it man.
It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple power bars on it. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's nvrpc wrote: > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > Thanks |
Re: Need torque verification
That's it man.
It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple power bars on it. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's nvrpc wrote: > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > Thanks |
Re: Need torque verification
That's it man.
It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple power bars on it. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's nvrpc wrote: > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > Thanks |
Re: Need torque verification
The center spindle bolts solid to the axle. This does not load the
bearing in any way. When I do u-joints, I don't even bother undoing that nut. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's nvrpc wrote: > > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face. > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds > or > > something (bill??). > > > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds > as > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > > hub > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > this > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > > know > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > my > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
The center spindle bolts solid to the axle. This does not load the
bearing in any way. When I do u-joints, I don't even bother undoing that nut. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's nvrpc wrote: > > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face. > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds > or > > something (bill??). > > > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds > as > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > > hub > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > this > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > > know > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > my > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
The center spindle bolts solid to the axle. This does not load the
bearing in any way. When I do u-joints, I don't even bother undoing that nut. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's nvrpc wrote: > > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face. > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds > or > > something (bill??). > > > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds > as > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > > hub > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > this > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > > know > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > my > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
The center spindle bolts solid to the axle. This does not load the
bearing in any way. When I do u-joints, I don't even bother undoing that nut. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's nvrpc wrote: > > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face. > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know? > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > Hows this so unbelievable?? > > > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds > or > > something (bill??). > > > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds > as > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end. > > > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up? > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy! > > > > > > > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com... > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > > hub > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > this > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > > know > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > my > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Need torque verification
When I bought my 36mm socket....they had 2 types one chrome and one flat
black (impact), I got the impact even though at the time I didn't have air or an impact wrench...but I am here to tell you impact is the way to go removing that nut. Buy or rent a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench for installation, you really don't want your hub loose. Sean "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:40842683.83B7FC35@sympatico.ca... > That's it man. > > It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple > power bars on it. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > nvrpc wrote: > > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > Thanks |
Re: Need torque verification
When I bought my 36mm socket....they had 2 types one chrome and one flat
black (impact), I got the impact even though at the time I didn't have air or an impact wrench...but I am here to tell you impact is the way to go removing that nut. Buy or rent a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench for installation, you really don't want your hub loose. Sean "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:40842683.83B7FC35@sympatico.ca... > That's it man. > > It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple > power bars on it. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > nvrpc wrote: > > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > Thanks |
Re: Need torque verification
When I bought my 36mm socket....they had 2 types one chrome and one flat
black (impact), I got the impact even though at the time I didn't have air or an impact wrench...but I am here to tell you impact is the way to go removing that nut. Buy or rent a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench for installation, you really don't want your hub loose. Sean "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:40842683.83B7FC35@sympatico.ca... > That's it man. > > It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple > power bars on it. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > nvrpc wrote: > > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > Thanks |
Re: Need torque verification
When I bought my 36mm socket....they had 2 types one chrome and one flat
black (impact), I got the impact even though at the time I didn't have air or an impact wrench...but I am here to tell you impact is the way to go removing that nut. Buy or rent a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench for installation, you really don't want your hub loose. Sean "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:40842683.83B7FC35@sympatico.ca... > That's it man. > > It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple > power bars on it. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > nvrpc wrote: > > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > Thanks |
Re: Need torque verification
I will have one in my hands tomorrow. Wish me luck.
Thank to all for the help provided, once again. "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message news:c646dp$7vj76$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de... > When I bought my 36mm socket....they had 2 types one chrome and one flat > black (impact), I got the impact even though at the time I didn't have air > or an impact wrench...but I am here to tell you impact is the way to go > removing that nut. Buy or rent a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench for installation, > you really don't want your hub loose. > > Sean > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:40842683.83B7FC35@sympatico.ca... > > That's it man. > > > > It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple > > power bars on it. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > nvrpc wrote: > > > > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > hub > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > this > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > know > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > my > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > |
Re: Need torque verification
I will have one in my hands tomorrow. Wish me luck.
Thank to all for the help provided, once again. "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message news:c646dp$7vj76$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de... > When I bought my 36mm socket....they had 2 types one chrome and one flat > black (impact), I got the impact even though at the time I didn't have air > or an impact wrench...but I am here to tell you impact is the way to go > removing that nut. Buy or rent a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench for installation, > you really don't want your hub loose. > > Sean > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:40842683.83B7FC35@sympatico.ca... > > That's it man. > > > > It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple > > power bars on it. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > nvrpc wrote: > > > > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > hub > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > this > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > know > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > my > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > |
Re: Need torque verification
I will have one in my hands tomorrow. Wish me luck.
Thank to all for the help provided, once again. "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message news:c646dp$7vj76$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de... > When I bought my 36mm socket....they had 2 types one chrome and one flat > black (impact), I got the impact even though at the time I didn't have air > or an impact wrench...but I am here to tell you impact is the way to go > removing that nut. Buy or rent a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench for installation, > you really don't want your hub loose. > > Sean > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:40842683.83B7FC35@sympatico.ca... > > That's it man. > > > > It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple > > power bars on it. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > nvrpc wrote: > > > > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > hub > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > this > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > know > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > my > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > |
Re: Need torque verification
I will have one in my hands tomorrow. Wish me luck.
Thank to all for the help provided, once again. "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message news:c646dp$7vj76$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de... > When I bought my 36mm socket....they had 2 types one chrome and one flat > black (impact), I got the impact even though at the time I didn't have air > or an impact wrench...but I am here to tell you impact is the way to go > removing that nut. Buy or rent a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench for installation, > you really don't want your hub loose. > > Sean > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:40842683.83B7FC35@sympatico.ca... > > That's it man. > > > > It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple > > power bars on it. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > nvrpc wrote: > > > > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the > hub > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is > this > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not > know > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is > my > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > |
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