L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are
pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is
securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice
burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

nvrpc wrote:
>
> I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
> To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that
> used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
> assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
> requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
> roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
> precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know?
>
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > Hows this so unbelievable??
> >
> > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds
> or
> > something (bill??).
> >
> > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds
> as
> > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
> > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
> > 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
> >
> > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
> > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
> >
> >
> >
> > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the
> > hub
> > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is
> this
> > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not
> > know
> > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is
> my
> > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are
pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is
securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice
burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

nvrpc wrote:
>
> I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
> To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that
> used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
> assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
> requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
> roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
> precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know?
>
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > Hows this so unbelievable??
> >
> > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds
> or
> > something (bill??).
> >
> > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds
> as
> > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
> > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
> > 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
> >
> > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
> > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
> >
> >
> >
> > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the
> > hub
> > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is
> this
> > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not
> > know
> > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is
> my
> > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are
pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is
securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice
burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

nvrpc wrote:
>
> I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race face.
> To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then that
> used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
> assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
> requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
> roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
> precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone know?
>
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > Hows this so unbelievable??
> >
> > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot pounds
> or
> > something (bill??).
> >
> > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting 150pounds
> as
> > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle on
> > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to create
> > 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
> >
> > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some bolts to
> > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
> >
> >
> >
> > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the
> > hub
> > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is
> this
> > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not
> > know
> > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is
> my
> > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

nvrpc

Thanks Bill Now that makes me feel much better. It is exactly how I was
hoping. Thanks

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4083497E.767AC573@***.net...
> The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are
> pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is
> securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice
> burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> nvrpc wrote:
> >
> > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race
face.
> > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then
that
> > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
> > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
> > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
> > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
> > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone
know?
> >
> > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > > Hows this so unbelievable??
> > >
> > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot
pounds
> > or
> > > something (bill??).
> > >
> > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting
150pounds
> > as
> > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle
on
> > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to
create
> > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
> > >
> > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some
bolts to
> > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on
the
> > > hub
> > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds.
Is
> > this
> > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do
not
> > > know
> > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two
is
> > my
> > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

nvrpc

Thanks Bill Now that makes me feel much better. It is exactly how I was
hoping. Thanks

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4083497E.767AC573@***.net...
> The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are
> pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is
> securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice
> burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> nvrpc wrote:
> >
> > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race
face.
> > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then
that
> > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
> > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
> > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
> > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
> > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone
know?
> >
> > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > > Hows this so unbelievable??
> > >
> > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot
pounds
> > or
> > > something (bill??).
> > >
> > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting
150pounds
> > as
> > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle
on
> > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to
create
> > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
> > >
> > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some
bolts to
> > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on
the
> > > hub
> > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds.
Is
> > this
> > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do
not
> > > know
> > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two
is
> > my
> > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

nvrpc

Thanks Bill Now that makes me feel much better. It is exactly how I was
hoping. Thanks

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4083497E.767AC573@***.net...
> The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are
> pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is
> securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice
> burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> nvrpc wrote:
> >
> > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race
face.
> > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then
that
> > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
> > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
> > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
> > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
> > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone
know?
> >
> > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > > Hows this so unbelievable??
> > >
> > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot
pounds
> > or
> > > something (bill??).
> > >
> > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting
150pounds
> > as
> > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle
on
> > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to
create
> > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
> > >
> > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some
bolts to
> > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on
the
> > > hub
> > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds.
Is
> > this
> > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do
not
> > > know
> > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two
is
> > my
> > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

nvrpc

Thanks Bill Now that makes me feel much better. It is exactly how I was
hoping. Thanks

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4083497E.767AC573@***.net...
> The axle nut has nothing to with the ball bears setup they are
> pressed on to the pipe thingie you call a hub and all you're doing is
> securing the axle to it, just like these little front wheel drive rice
> burners: http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> nvrpc wrote:
> >
> > I am just thinking about the force of the roller bearing onto the race
face.
> > To me this 175 foot pounds that the book calls for is a lot more then
that
> > used on the Timken bearing on the spindle of an old Chevy drum break
> > assembly. As a matter of a fact they only had a 25 inch pound torque
> > requirement, so for me I see 175 foot pounds as a lot of pre load on two
> > roller bearing. I can only suspect that inside this assembly must be a
> > precision ground spacer that is actually sharing the load. Does anyone
know?
> >
> > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:j5Hgc.10822$9kJ.1219@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > > Hows this so unbelievable??
> > >
> > > The lugs on your rims are supposed to be torqued from 80-100 foot
pounds
> > or
> > > something (bill??).
> > >
> > > If you are thinking that this is a lot cuz you think of lifting
150pounds
> > as
> > > a hard task...well, it's called torque not force. With a 2foot handle
on
> > > your wrench it takes a rather small amount of force on your end to
create
> > > 150pounds on the nut/hub end.
> > >
> > > I was working on some heavy equipment and had to torque down some
bolts to
> > > 250. I'm thinkin...wait, I'm 250....do I have to do a chin-up?
> > > nope....with a cheater bar I did it one handed! Very easy!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "nvrpc" <nvrpc@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1086ehkt9ddkr69@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on
the
> > > hub
> > > > assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds.
Is
> > this
> > > > correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do
not
> > > know
> > > > about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two
is
> > my
> > > > torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

Mike Romain

That's it man.

It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple
power bars on it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

nvrpc wrote:
>
> I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub
> assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this
> correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know
> about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my
> torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
>
> Thanks

Mike Romain

That's it man.

It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple
power bars on it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

nvrpc wrote:
>
> I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub
> assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this
> correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know
> about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my
> torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
>
> Thanks

Mike Romain

That's it man.

It can be real 'fun' to get the sucker off too! I have snapped a couple
power bars on it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

nvrpc wrote:
>
> I have checked two books now and each book says that the big nut on the hub
> assembly for a 1988 Jeep Wrangler gets torqued to 175 foot pounds. Is this
> correct? Is there a crush sleeve inside this hub assembly that I do not know
> about. The reason I ask is that first I find it unbelievable and two is my
> torque wrench only goes to 150 foot pounds. Please advise
>
> Thanks