More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
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> God damn, you can recite all that left-wing anti-nuke crap in one sitting?
> I'm friggin' impressed!
>
> I like this propaganda better: "More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car
> than from the American nuclear power industry." (Unfortunately, for you
the
> latter is TRUE!)
I'm sorry, but I just can't let ignorant -------- pass, especially when
you have to
put some sort of backhanded liberal vs. conservative spin on it. Thousands
of uranium miners who by definition were employed by the American Nuclear
Power industry have died of cancer as a direct result of their employment
activities.
It happened, it's history. Current mining safety practices are much better,
but this does
not change the past.
Bottom line: Can failsafe plants be designed? Absolutely yes, but I am
not sure the
industry is capable of profitably executing such a design. When I see an
industry
that is willing to not only run plants beyond their design life, but to
request a 20% over
design limit power output on said same plants I worry.
Jeff, 25 miles from Vermont Yankee.
#452
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
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> God damn, you can recite all that left-wing anti-nuke crap in one sitting?
> I'm friggin' impressed!
>
> I like this propaganda better: "More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car
> than from the American nuclear power industry." (Unfortunately, for you
the
> latter is TRUE!)
I'm sorry, but I just can't let ignorant -------- pass, especially when
you have to
put some sort of backhanded liberal vs. conservative spin on it. Thousands
of uranium miners who by definition were employed by the American Nuclear
Power industry have died of cancer as a direct result of their employment
activities.
It happened, it's history. Current mining safety practices are much better,
but this does
not change the past.
Bottom line: Can failsafe plants be designed? Absolutely yes, but I am
not sure the
industry is capable of profitably executing such a design. When I see an
industry
that is willing to not only run plants beyond their design life, but to
request a 20% over
design limit power output on said same plants I worry.
Jeff, 25 miles from Vermont Yankee.
#453
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:ca1vuo11at6@enews3.newsguy.com...
> God damn, you can recite all that left-wing anti-nuke crap in one sitting?
> I'm friggin' impressed!
>
> I like this propaganda better: "More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car
> than from the American nuclear power industry." (Unfortunately, for you
the
> latter is TRUE!)
I'm sorry, but I just can't let ignorant -------- pass, especially when
you have to
put some sort of backhanded liberal vs. conservative spin on it. Thousands
of uranium miners who by definition were employed by the American Nuclear
Power industry have died of cancer as a direct result of their employment
activities.
It happened, it's history. Current mining safety practices are much better,
but this does
not change the past.
Bottom line: Can failsafe plants be designed? Absolutely yes, but I am
not sure the
industry is capable of profitably executing such a design. When I see an
industry
that is willing to not only run plants beyond their design life, but to
request a 20% over
design limit power output on said same plants I worry.
Jeff, 25 miles from Vermont Yankee.
#454
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
> I'm sorry, but I just can't let ignorant -------- pass, especially
when
> you have to> put some sort of backhanded liberal vs. conservative spin on
it. <
The same people who for the last 40 years have been shrieking and wringing
their "Oh, My God!" hands over nuclear power are the same ones screaming
about global warming. Yet these are the first doom-prophets (like the
Kennedy family) who NIMBY any nearby wind power generation farms, compalin
of the "unsightly" fields of solar collectors, and ban wood burning stoves
in their towns to "save the forests". Well, perhaps we can all satrt
heating our homes on these fools --------.
<Thousands of uranium miners who by definition were employed by the American
Nuclear Power industry have died of cancer as a direct result of their
employment activities..... >
By no definition but yours because you think it reinforces your argument.
Thousands of people dies mining coal, gold & copper, but you use these items
every day.
> Bottom line: Can failsafe plants be designed? Absolutely yes....., <
But, you and your Luddite froiends would never allow one to be built...
< but I am not sure the industry is capable of profitably executing such a
design.>
I assume you're a nuclear engineer, right? Otherwise what qualifies you to
make such a ststement?
< When I see anindustry that is willing to not only run plants beyond their
design life, >
Because since, because of you, they can't build a new one and to shut it
down means millions then either freeze or depend upon the fossil fuel-fired
plants yu also want to shut down.
< but to request a 20% over design limit power output on said same plants I
worry.>
If you knew they'd upgraded it, you'd still worry, as you do about ozone
layer depletion, CO2 emissions, acid-rain, te Patriot Act, you know,
whatever fits the agenda.
> Jeff, 25 miles from Vermont Yankee. <
You better move NOW, I here it's about to blow!
>
>
when
> you have to> put some sort of backhanded liberal vs. conservative spin on
it. <
The same people who for the last 40 years have been shrieking and wringing
their "Oh, My God!" hands over nuclear power are the same ones screaming
about global warming. Yet these are the first doom-prophets (like the
Kennedy family) who NIMBY any nearby wind power generation farms, compalin
of the "unsightly" fields of solar collectors, and ban wood burning stoves
in their towns to "save the forests". Well, perhaps we can all satrt
heating our homes on these fools --------.
<Thousands of uranium miners who by definition were employed by the American
Nuclear Power industry have died of cancer as a direct result of their
employment activities..... >
By no definition but yours because you think it reinforces your argument.
Thousands of people dies mining coal, gold & copper, but you use these items
every day.
> Bottom line: Can failsafe plants be designed? Absolutely yes....., <
But, you and your Luddite froiends would never allow one to be built...
< but I am not sure the industry is capable of profitably executing such a
design.>
I assume you're a nuclear engineer, right? Otherwise what qualifies you to
make such a ststement?
< When I see anindustry that is willing to not only run plants beyond their
design life, >
Because since, because of you, they can't build a new one and to shut it
down means millions then either freeze or depend upon the fossil fuel-fired
plants yu also want to shut down.
< but to request a 20% over design limit power output on said same plants I
worry.>
If you knew they'd upgraded it, you'd still worry, as you do about ozone
layer depletion, CO2 emissions, acid-rain, te Patriot Act, you know,
whatever fits the agenda.
> Jeff, 25 miles from Vermont Yankee. <
You better move NOW, I here it's about to blow!
>
>
#455
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
> I'm sorry, but I just can't let ignorant -------- pass, especially
when
> you have to> put some sort of backhanded liberal vs. conservative spin on
it. <
The same people who for the last 40 years have been shrieking and wringing
their "Oh, My God!" hands over nuclear power are the same ones screaming
about global warming. Yet these are the first doom-prophets (like the
Kennedy family) who NIMBY any nearby wind power generation farms, compalin
of the "unsightly" fields of solar collectors, and ban wood burning stoves
in their towns to "save the forests". Well, perhaps we can all satrt
heating our homes on these fools --------.
<Thousands of uranium miners who by definition were employed by the American
Nuclear Power industry have died of cancer as a direct result of their
employment activities..... >
By no definition but yours because you think it reinforces your argument.
Thousands of people dies mining coal, gold & copper, but you use these items
every day.
> Bottom line: Can failsafe plants be designed? Absolutely yes....., <
But, you and your Luddite froiends would never allow one to be built...
< but I am not sure the industry is capable of profitably executing such a
design.>
I assume you're a nuclear engineer, right? Otherwise what qualifies you to
make such a ststement?
< When I see anindustry that is willing to not only run plants beyond their
design life, >
Because since, because of you, they can't build a new one and to shut it
down means millions then either freeze or depend upon the fossil fuel-fired
plants yu also want to shut down.
< but to request a 20% over design limit power output on said same plants I
worry.>
If you knew they'd upgraded it, you'd still worry, as you do about ozone
layer depletion, CO2 emissions, acid-rain, te Patriot Act, you know,
whatever fits the agenda.
> Jeff, 25 miles from Vermont Yankee. <
You better move NOW, I here it's about to blow!
>
>
when
> you have to> put some sort of backhanded liberal vs. conservative spin on
it. <
The same people who for the last 40 years have been shrieking and wringing
their "Oh, My God!" hands over nuclear power are the same ones screaming
about global warming. Yet these are the first doom-prophets (like the
Kennedy family) who NIMBY any nearby wind power generation farms, compalin
of the "unsightly" fields of solar collectors, and ban wood burning stoves
in their towns to "save the forests". Well, perhaps we can all satrt
heating our homes on these fools --------.
<Thousands of uranium miners who by definition were employed by the American
Nuclear Power industry have died of cancer as a direct result of their
employment activities..... >
By no definition but yours because you think it reinforces your argument.
Thousands of people dies mining coal, gold & copper, but you use these items
every day.
> Bottom line: Can failsafe plants be designed? Absolutely yes....., <
But, you and your Luddite froiends would never allow one to be built...
< but I am not sure the industry is capable of profitably executing such a
design.>
I assume you're a nuclear engineer, right? Otherwise what qualifies you to
make such a ststement?
< When I see anindustry that is willing to not only run plants beyond their
design life, >
Because since, because of you, they can't build a new one and to shut it
down means millions then either freeze or depend upon the fossil fuel-fired
plants yu also want to shut down.
< but to request a 20% over design limit power output on said same plants I
worry.>
If you knew they'd upgraded it, you'd still worry, as you do about ozone
layer depletion, CO2 emissions, acid-rain, te Patriot Act, you know,
whatever fits the agenda.
> Jeff, 25 miles from Vermont Yankee. <
You better move NOW, I here it's about to blow!
>
>
#456
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
> I'm sorry, but I just can't let ignorant -------- pass, especially
when
> you have to> put some sort of backhanded liberal vs. conservative spin on
it. <
The same people who for the last 40 years have been shrieking and wringing
their "Oh, My God!" hands over nuclear power are the same ones screaming
about global warming. Yet these are the first doom-prophets (like the
Kennedy family) who NIMBY any nearby wind power generation farms, compalin
of the "unsightly" fields of solar collectors, and ban wood burning stoves
in their towns to "save the forests". Well, perhaps we can all satrt
heating our homes on these fools --------.
<Thousands of uranium miners who by definition were employed by the American
Nuclear Power industry have died of cancer as a direct result of their
employment activities..... >
By no definition but yours because you think it reinforces your argument.
Thousands of people dies mining coal, gold & copper, but you use these items
every day.
> Bottom line: Can failsafe plants be designed? Absolutely yes....., <
But, you and your Luddite froiends would never allow one to be built...
< but I am not sure the industry is capable of profitably executing such a
design.>
I assume you're a nuclear engineer, right? Otherwise what qualifies you to
make such a ststement?
< When I see anindustry that is willing to not only run plants beyond their
design life, >
Because since, because of you, they can't build a new one and to shut it
down means millions then either freeze or depend upon the fossil fuel-fired
plants yu also want to shut down.
< but to request a 20% over design limit power output on said same plants I
worry.>
If you knew they'd upgraded it, you'd still worry, as you do about ozone
layer depletion, CO2 emissions, acid-rain, te Patriot Act, you know,
whatever fits the agenda.
> Jeff, 25 miles from Vermont Yankee. <
You better move NOW, I here it's about to blow!
>
>
when
> you have to> put some sort of backhanded liberal vs. conservative spin on
it. <
The same people who for the last 40 years have been shrieking and wringing
their "Oh, My God!" hands over nuclear power are the same ones screaming
about global warming. Yet these are the first doom-prophets (like the
Kennedy family) who NIMBY any nearby wind power generation farms, compalin
of the "unsightly" fields of solar collectors, and ban wood burning stoves
in their towns to "save the forests". Well, perhaps we can all satrt
heating our homes on these fools --------.
<Thousands of uranium miners who by definition were employed by the American
Nuclear Power industry have died of cancer as a direct result of their
employment activities..... >
By no definition but yours because you think it reinforces your argument.
Thousands of people dies mining coal, gold & copper, but you use these items
every day.
> Bottom line: Can failsafe plants be designed? Absolutely yes....., <
But, you and your Luddite froiends would never allow one to be built...
< but I am not sure the industry is capable of profitably executing such a
design.>
I assume you're a nuclear engineer, right? Otherwise what qualifies you to
make such a ststement?
< When I see anindustry that is willing to not only run plants beyond their
design life, >
Because since, because of you, they can't build a new one and to shut it
down means millions then either freeze or depend upon the fossil fuel-fired
plants yu also want to shut down.
< but to request a 20% over design limit power output on said same plants I
worry.>
If you knew they'd upgraded it, you'd still worry, as you do about ozone
layer depletion, CO2 emissions, acid-rain, te Patriot Act, you know,
whatever fits the agenda.
> Jeff, 25 miles from Vermont Yankee. <
You better move NOW, I here it's about to blow!
>
>
#457
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
> I'm sorry, but I just can't let ignorant -------- pass, especially
when
> you have to> put some sort of backhanded liberal vs. conservative spin on
it. <
The same people who for the last 40 years have been shrieking and wringing
their "Oh, My God!" hands over nuclear power are the same ones screaming
about global warming. Yet these are the first doom-prophets (like the
Kennedy family) who NIMBY any nearby wind power generation farms, compalin
of the "unsightly" fields of solar collectors, and ban wood burning stoves
in their towns to "save the forests". Well, perhaps we can all satrt
heating our homes on these fools --------.
<Thousands of uranium miners who by definition were employed by the American
Nuclear Power industry have died of cancer as a direct result of their
employment activities..... >
By no definition but yours because you think it reinforces your argument.
Thousands of people dies mining coal, gold & copper, but you use these items
every day.
> Bottom line: Can failsafe plants be designed? Absolutely yes....., <
But, you and your Luddite froiends would never allow one to be built...
< but I am not sure the industry is capable of profitably executing such a
design.>
I assume you're a nuclear engineer, right? Otherwise what qualifies you to
make such a ststement?
< When I see anindustry that is willing to not only run plants beyond their
design life, >
Because since, because of you, they can't build a new one and to shut it
down means millions then either freeze or depend upon the fossil fuel-fired
plants yu also want to shut down.
< but to request a 20% over design limit power output on said same plants I
worry.>
If you knew they'd upgraded it, you'd still worry, as you do about ozone
layer depletion, CO2 emissions, acid-rain, te Patriot Act, you know,
whatever fits the agenda.
> Jeff, 25 miles from Vermont Yankee. <
You better move NOW, I here it's about to blow!
>
>
when
> you have to> put some sort of backhanded liberal vs. conservative spin on
it. <
The same people who for the last 40 years have been shrieking and wringing
their "Oh, My God!" hands over nuclear power are the same ones screaming
about global warming. Yet these are the first doom-prophets (like the
Kennedy family) who NIMBY any nearby wind power generation farms, compalin
of the "unsightly" fields of solar collectors, and ban wood burning stoves
in their towns to "save the forests". Well, perhaps we can all satrt
heating our homes on these fools --------.
<Thousands of uranium miners who by definition were employed by the American
Nuclear Power industry have died of cancer as a direct result of their
employment activities..... >
By no definition but yours because you think it reinforces your argument.
Thousands of people dies mining coal, gold & copper, but you use these items
every day.
> Bottom line: Can failsafe plants be designed? Absolutely yes....., <
But, you and your Luddite froiends would never allow one to be built...
< but I am not sure the industry is capable of profitably executing such a
design.>
I assume you're a nuclear engineer, right? Otherwise what qualifies you to
make such a ststement?
< When I see anindustry that is willing to not only run plants beyond their
design life, >
Because since, because of you, they can't build a new one and to shut it
down means millions then either freeze or depend upon the fossil fuel-fired
plants yu also want to shut down.
< but to request a 20% over design limit power output on said same plants I
worry.>
If you knew they'd upgraded it, you'd still worry, as you do about ozone
layer depletion, CO2 emissions, acid-rain, te Patriot Act, you know,
whatever fits the agenda.
> Jeff, 25 miles from Vermont Yankee. <
You better move NOW, I here it's about to blow!
>
>
#458
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, DaveW wrote:
>
> >
> > I think Stanley Steamers run on gasoline or some other petroleum
> > distillate. They did NOT run on coal.
> >
> > The one Jay Leno brought to the Chrysler Performance West Spring Fling
> > in Woodley Park a few years ago certainly used liquid fuel. He claimed
> > to have gotten it up to 85mph, but had to stop every 25 miles...for
water!
>
> Legend has it that no one ever found out how fast a Stanley Steamer could
> go flat out because, at speed, the floor pan produced a ground effect and
> the damned things would get airborne.
>
> YMMV.
Old man Stanley used his money to build the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, CO,
which appeared in the early 80's movie "The Shining". Apprently everything
he touched got spooky!
#459
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0406071028440.7905@panix2.panix .com...
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, DaveW wrote:
>
> >
> > I think Stanley Steamers run on gasoline or some other petroleum
> > distillate. They did NOT run on coal.
> >
> > The one Jay Leno brought to the Chrysler Performance West Spring Fling
> > in Woodley Park a few years ago certainly used liquid fuel. He claimed
> > to have gotten it up to 85mph, but had to stop every 25 miles...for
water!
>
> Legend has it that no one ever found out how fast a Stanley Steamer could
> go flat out because, at speed, the floor pan produced a ground effect and
> the damned things would get airborne.
>
> YMMV.
Old man Stanley used his money to build the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, CO,
which appeared in the early 80's movie "The Shining". Apprently everything
he touched got spooky!
#460
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0406071028440.7905@panix2.panix .com...
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, DaveW wrote:
>
> >
> > I think Stanley Steamers run on gasoline or some other petroleum
> > distillate. They did NOT run on coal.
> >
> > The one Jay Leno brought to the Chrysler Performance West Spring Fling
> > in Woodley Park a few years ago certainly used liquid fuel. He claimed
> > to have gotten it up to 85mph, but had to stop every 25 miles...for
water!
>
> Legend has it that no one ever found out how fast a Stanley Steamer could
> go flat out because, at speed, the floor pan produced a ground effect and
> the damned things would get airborne.
>
> YMMV.
Old man Stanley used his money to build the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, CO,
which appeared in the early 80's movie "The Shining". Apprently everything
he touched got spooky!