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Re: MileMarker PE8000
I am tellin' ya, no one, but no one better tell my Warn hs9000i that it
'can't' work under water! My Jeep can safely cross at least 42" deep of standing water which totally covers my winch. I suppose I should take it apart and make sure all the seals are up to par before the next serious wheeling season, but after 4 years on front it sure still worked well last week when I needed it. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's griffin wrote: > > It is basically a waterproof winch that works off the steering pump (I > think?) and I imagine the idea is that an amphibious lander would be > snorkel-equipped, which means the winch could be completely submerged and > both the truck and winch will operate (unlike an electric). I almost bought > one of the MM winches but it was a refurb and that kinda scared me off. What > I've heard of them is they are extremely slow but extremely reliable. > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message > news:xhaFd.13281$wi2.11584@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com... > > I have zero experience with hyd. winches, but how do you operate them if > > you have a stalled engine, like from a water crossing (example used as > > one of their advantages)? |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
I am tellin' ya, no one, but no one better tell my Warn hs9000i that it
'can't' work under water! My Jeep can safely cross at least 42" deep of standing water which totally covers my winch. I suppose I should take it apart and make sure all the seals are up to par before the next serious wheeling season, but after 4 years on front it sure still worked well last week when I needed it. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's griffin wrote: > > It is basically a waterproof winch that works off the steering pump (I > think?) and I imagine the idea is that an amphibious lander would be > snorkel-equipped, which means the winch could be completely submerged and > both the truck and winch will operate (unlike an electric). I almost bought > one of the MM winches but it was a refurb and that kinda scared me off. What > I've heard of them is they are extremely slow but extremely reliable. > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message > news:xhaFd.13281$wi2.11584@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com... > > I have zero experience with hyd. winches, but how do you operate them if > > you have a stalled engine, like from a water crossing (example used as > > one of their advantages)? |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
I am tellin' ya, no one, but no one better tell my Warn hs9000i that it
'can't' work under water! My Jeep can safely cross at least 42" deep of standing water which totally covers my winch. I suppose I should take it apart and make sure all the seals are up to par before the next serious wheeling season, but after 4 years on front it sure still worked well last week when I needed it. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's griffin wrote: > > It is basically a waterproof winch that works off the steering pump (I > think?) and I imagine the idea is that an amphibious lander would be > snorkel-equipped, which means the winch could be completely submerged and > both the truck and winch will operate (unlike an electric). I almost bought > one of the MM winches but it was a refurb and that kinda scared me off. What > I've heard of them is they are extremely slow but extremely reliable. > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message > news:xhaFd.13281$wi2.11584@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com... > > I have zero experience with hyd. winches, but how do you operate them if > > you have a stalled engine, like from a water crossing (example used as > > one of their advantages)? |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Mike, our Warn winches can work underneath fresh water but not under
salt water. :) Jerry Mike Romain wrote: > I am tellin' ya, no one, but no one better tell my Warn hs9000i that it > 'can't' work under water! > > My Jeep can safely cross at least 42" deep of standing water which > totally covers my winch. I suppose I should take it apart and make sure > all the seals are up to par before the next serious wheeling season, but > after 4 years on front it sure still worked well last week when I needed > it. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > griffin wrote: > >>It is basically a waterproof winch that works off the steering pump (I >>think?) and I imagine the idea is that an amphibious lander would be >>snorkel-equipped, which means the winch could be completely submerged and >>both the truck and winch will operate (unlike an electric). I almost bought >>one of the MM winches but it was a refurb and that kinda scared me off. What >>I've heard of them is they are extremely slow but extremely reliable. >> >>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message >>news:xhaFd.13281$wi2.11584@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com... >> >>>I have zero experience with hyd. winches, but how do you operate them if >>>you have a stalled engine, like from a water crossing (example used as >>>one of their advantages)? -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Mike, our Warn winches can work underneath fresh water but not under
salt water. :) Jerry Mike Romain wrote: > I am tellin' ya, no one, but no one better tell my Warn hs9000i that it > 'can't' work under water! > > My Jeep can safely cross at least 42" deep of standing water which > totally covers my winch. I suppose I should take it apart and make sure > all the seals are up to par before the next serious wheeling season, but > after 4 years on front it sure still worked well last week when I needed > it. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > griffin wrote: > >>It is basically a waterproof winch that works off the steering pump (I >>think?) and I imagine the idea is that an amphibious lander would be >>snorkel-equipped, which means the winch could be completely submerged and >>both the truck and winch will operate (unlike an electric). I almost bought >>one of the MM winches but it was a refurb and that kinda scared me off. What >>I've heard of them is they are extremely slow but extremely reliable. >> >>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message >>news:xhaFd.13281$wi2.11584@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com... >> >>>I have zero experience with hyd. winches, but how do you operate them if >>>you have a stalled engine, like from a water crossing (example used as >>>one of their advantages)? -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Mike, our Warn winches can work underneath fresh water but not under
salt water. :) Jerry Mike Romain wrote: > I am tellin' ya, no one, but no one better tell my Warn hs9000i that it > 'can't' work under water! > > My Jeep can safely cross at least 42" deep of standing water which > totally covers my winch. I suppose I should take it apart and make sure > all the seals are up to par before the next serious wheeling season, but > after 4 years on front it sure still worked well last week when I needed > it. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > griffin wrote: > >>It is basically a waterproof winch that works off the steering pump (I >>think?) and I imagine the idea is that an amphibious lander would be >>snorkel-equipped, which means the winch could be completely submerged and >>both the truck and winch will operate (unlike an electric). I almost bought >>one of the MM winches but it was a refurb and that kinda scared me off. What >>I've heard of them is they are extremely slow but extremely reliable. >> >>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message >>news:xhaFd.13281$wi2.11584@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com... >> >>>I have zero experience with hyd. winches, but how do you operate them if >>>you have a stalled engine, like from a water crossing (example used as >>>one of their advantages)? -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Ahh ok. The only time I was stuck in/near salt water was a couple miles
out on a freakin mud flat in the Bay of Fundy's Minas Basin at low tide. The winch wouldn't have reached anything there and no one else was crazy enough to drive out for a pull..... Got real lucky that day! Shoveling a moat around it lowered the water table enough the soup turned into sand and I drove out just before the tide caught me. I learned..... Mike Jerry Bransford wrote: > > Mike, our Warn winches can work underneath fresh water but not under > salt water. :) > > Jerry > > Mike Romain wrote: > > I am tellin' ya, no one, but no one better tell my Warn hs9000i that it > > 'can't' work under water! > > > > My Jeep can safely cross at least 42" deep of standing water which > > totally covers my winch. I suppose I should take it apart and make sure > > all the seals are up to par before the next serious wheeling season, but > > after 4 years on front it sure still worked well last week when I needed > > it. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > griffin wrote: > > > >>It is basically a waterproof winch that works off the steering pump (I > >>think?) and I imagine the idea is that an amphibious lander would be > >>snorkel-equipped, which means the winch could be completely submerged and > >>both the truck and winch will operate (unlike an electric). I almost bought > >>one of the MM winches but it was a refurb and that kinda scared me off. What > >>I've heard of them is they are extremely slow but extremely reliable. > >> > >>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message > >>news:xhaFd.13281$wi2.11584@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com... > >> > >>>I have zero experience with hyd. winches, but how do you operate them if > >>>you have a stalled engine, like from a water crossing (example used as > >>>one of their advantages)? > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Ahh ok. The only time I was stuck in/near salt water was a couple miles
out on a freakin mud flat in the Bay of Fundy's Minas Basin at low tide. The winch wouldn't have reached anything there and no one else was crazy enough to drive out for a pull..... Got real lucky that day! Shoveling a moat around it lowered the water table enough the soup turned into sand and I drove out just before the tide caught me. I learned..... Mike Jerry Bransford wrote: > > Mike, our Warn winches can work underneath fresh water but not under > salt water. :) > > Jerry > > Mike Romain wrote: > > I am tellin' ya, no one, but no one better tell my Warn hs9000i that it > > 'can't' work under water! > > > > My Jeep can safely cross at least 42" deep of standing water which > > totally covers my winch. I suppose I should take it apart and make sure > > all the seals are up to par before the next serious wheeling season, but > > after 4 years on front it sure still worked well last week when I needed > > it. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > griffin wrote: > > > >>It is basically a waterproof winch that works off the steering pump (I > >>think?) and I imagine the idea is that an amphibious lander would be > >>snorkel-equipped, which means the winch could be completely submerged and > >>both the truck and winch will operate (unlike an electric). I almost bought > >>one of the MM winches but it was a refurb and that kinda scared me off. What > >>I've heard of them is they are extremely slow but extremely reliable. > >> > >>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message > >>news:xhaFd.13281$wi2.11584@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com... > >> > >>>I have zero experience with hyd. winches, but how do you operate them if > >>>you have a stalled engine, like from a water crossing (example used as > >>>one of their advantages)? > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Ahh ok. The only time I was stuck in/near salt water was a couple miles
out on a freakin mud flat in the Bay of Fundy's Minas Basin at low tide. The winch wouldn't have reached anything there and no one else was crazy enough to drive out for a pull..... Got real lucky that day! Shoveling a moat around it lowered the water table enough the soup turned into sand and I drove out just before the tide caught me. I learned..... Mike Jerry Bransford wrote: > > Mike, our Warn winches can work underneath fresh water but not under > salt water. :) > > Jerry > > Mike Romain wrote: > > I am tellin' ya, no one, but no one better tell my Warn hs9000i that it > > 'can't' work under water! > > > > My Jeep can safely cross at least 42" deep of standing water which > > totally covers my winch. I suppose I should take it apart and make sure > > all the seals are up to par before the next serious wheeling season, but > > after 4 years on front it sure still worked well last week when I needed > > it. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > griffin wrote: > > > >>It is basically a waterproof winch that works off the steering pump (I > >>think?) and I imagine the idea is that an amphibious lander would be > >>snorkel-equipped, which means the winch could be completely submerged and > >>both the truck and winch will operate (unlike an electric). I almost bought > >>one of the MM winches but it was a refurb and that kinda scared me off. What > >>I've heard of them is they are extremely slow but extremely reliable. > >> > >>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message > >>news:xhaFd.13281$wi2.11584@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com... > >> > >>>I have zero experience with hyd. winches, but how do you operate them if > >>>you have a stalled engine, like from a water crossing (example used as > >>>one of their advantages)? > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
The other consideration when evaluating military winches vs. what a
Jeeper would consider "best" is that the military equipment would be for recovery but not specifically self-recovery. The dead engine argument goes away for the most part when discussing unit equipment where (hopefully) at least one grunt would be smart enough to stay out of the pickle the others got into. Duty cycle would also come into play so the argument is a lot more complex than for recreational use. Personally, I really liked the old PTO winches but you don't see many of those outside of farm equipment anymore. On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:17:01 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Ahh ok. The only time I was stuck in/near salt water was a couple miles > out on a freakin mud flat in the Bay of Fundy's Minas Basin at low > tide. The winch wouldn't have reached anything there and no one else > was crazy enough to drive out for a pull..... > > Got real lucky that day! Shoveling a moat around it lowered the water > table enough the soup turned into sand and I drove out just before the > tide caught me. I learned..... > > Mike > > Jerry Bransford wrote: > > > > Mike, our Warn winches can work underneath fresh water but not under > > salt water. :) > > > > Jerry > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > I am tellin' ya, no one, but no one better tell my Warn hs9000i that it > > > 'can't' work under water! > > > > > > My Jeep can safely cross at least 42" deep of standing water which > > > totally covers my winch. I suppose I should take it apart and make sure > > > all the seals are up to par before the next serious wheeling season, but > > > after 4 years on front it sure still worked well last week when I needed > > > it. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > griffin wrote: > > > > > >>It is basically a waterproof winch that works off the steering pump (I > > >>think?) and I imagine the idea is that an amphibious lander would be > > >>snorkel-equipped, which means the winch could be completely submerged and > > >>both the truck and winch will operate (unlike an electric). I almost bought > > >>one of the MM winches but it was a refurb and that kinda scared me off. What > > >>I've heard of them is they are extremely slow but extremely reliable. > > >> > > >>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message > > >>news:xhaFd.13281$wi2.11584@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com... > > >> > > >>>I have zero experience with hyd. winches, but how do you operate them if > > >>>you have a stalled engine, like from a water crossing (example used as > > >>>one of their advantages)? > > > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ -- Will Honea |
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