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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Eric wrote:
> I've been involved in contracts before and the criteria > isn't always a) specific enough or b) correct we arent talking computer or other types of support systems...we're talking combat duty gear. the military decided to go hydraulic before accepting bids on hydraulic winches and when they did the electric winches werent even a part of the bidding. i met a guy on the quadratec board that was part of the testing proceedure who gave me a lot of good information on it. i dont recall his name now, but its the thread where jerry and i last argued this same issue. |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Bike racks, 3:30pm after school, no back-up. Jerry VS MJeeper. Biting,
scratching and hairpulling allowed. The loser has to trade their Jeep in for a Lada Niva. > i met a guy on the quadratec board that was part of the testing > proceedure who gave me a lot of good information on it. i dont recall > his name now, but its the thread where jerry and i last argued this > same issue. > |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Bike racks, 3:30pm after school, no back-up. Jerry VS MJeeper. Biting,
scratching and hairpulling allowed. The loser has to trade their Jeep in for a Lada Niva. > i met a guy on the quadratec board that was part of the testing > proceedure who gave me a lot of good information on it. i dont recall > his name now, but its the thread where jerry and i last argued this > same issue. > |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Bike racks, 3:30pm after school, no back-up. Jerry VS MJeeper. Biting,
scratching and hairpulling allowed. The loser has to trade their Jeep in for a Lada Niva. > i met a guy on the quadratec board that was part of the testing > proceedure who gave me a lot of good information on it. i dont recall > his name now, but its the thread where jerry and i last argued this > same issue. > |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
OK, I'll take the argument that if your engine is dead, so is your
hydraulic winch. .then tell me, if your stuck with a electric winch and your engine does not run, how effective is the battery going to be with a winch that draws up to and probably over 400 amps and no alternator to help out. Every time my trail buddies used their warns they had to rev the crap out of their engines. These were long pulls and soon after one Jeep had it's check engine light came on. then your stuck with engine problems and a dead battery. I can see where a hydraulic which would work, whats the advantages of electric? <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:1105594760.643287.112430@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com... > Eric wrote: > > I've been involved in contracts before and the criteria > > isn't always a) specific enough or b) correct > > we arent talking computer or other types of support systems...we're > talking combat duty gear. the military decided to go hydraulic before > accepting bids on hydraulic winches and when they did the electric > winches werent even a part of the bidding. > > i met a guy on the quadratec board that was part of the testing > proceedure who gave me a lot of good information on it. i dont recall > his name now, but its the thread where jerry and i last argued this > same issue. > |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
OK, I'll take the argument that if your engine is dead, so is your
hydraulic winch. .then tell me, if your stuck with a electric winch and your engine does not run, how effective is the battery going to be with a winch that draws up to and probably over 400 amps and no alternator to help out. Every time my trail buddies used their warns they had to rev the crap out of their engines. These were long pulls and soon after one Jeep had it's check engine light came on. then your stuck with engine problems and a dead battery. I can see where a hydraulic which would work, whats the advantages of electric? <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:1105594760.643287.112430@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com... > Eric wrote: > > I've been involved in contracts before and the criteria > > isn't always a) specific enough or b) correct > > we arent talking computer or other types of support systems...we're > talking combat duty gear. the military decided to go hydraulic before > accepting bids on hydraulic winches and when they did the electric > winches werent even a part of the bidding. > > i met a guy on the quadratec board that was part of the testing > proceedure who gave me a lot of good information on it. i dont recall > his name now, but its the thread where jerry and i last argued this > same issue. > |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
OK, I'll take the argument that if your engine is dead, so is your
hydraulic winch. .then tell me, if your stuck with a electric winch and your engine does not run, how effective is the battery going to be with a winch that draws up to and probably over 400 amps and no alternator to help out. Every time my trail buddies used their warns they had to rev the crap out of their engines. These were long pulls and soon after one Jeep had it's check engine light came on. then your stuck with engine problems and a dead battery. I can see where a hydraulic which would work, whats the advantages of electric? <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:1105594760.643287.112430@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com... > Eric wrote: > > I've been involved in contracts before and the criteria > > isn't always a) specific enough or b) correct > > we arent talking computer or other types of support systems...we're > talking combat duty gear. the military decided to go hydraulic before > accepting bids on hydraulic winches and when they did the electric > winches werent even a part of the bidding. > > i met a guy on the quadratec board that was part of the testing > proceedure who gave me a lot of good information on it. i dont recall > his name now, but its the thread where jerry and i last argued this > same issue. > |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
I thought you were a Warn man, what the heck are you doing talking to MM?
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:v54Fd.9829$Tf5.6462@lakeread03... > Joe wrote: > > I stated "designed and engineered here in the US" > > So, I stated they are NOT designed and engineered here. I spoke to a > Milemarker engineer at a trade show for my company and he stated, > simply, they bought a new line of winches from China due to their losing > so much business to the electric winch industry. He specifically said > they didn't have much input on what they got other than color and > overall specs. > > Jerry > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:IA0Fd.1238$_d4.982@fed1read05... > > > >>-------- on them being "designed and manufacturered" in the US. Totally. > >> > >>Jerry > >> > >>Joe wrote: > >> > >>>Just wanted to know is if someone out there in cyber land has bought or > > > > used > > > >>>one of these winches. I called Milemarker today and yes Jerry, they are > >>>built in China, but they are designed and engineered here in the US. > >>>Milemarker also stated they are a big seller over in Europe and the > > > > Spanish > > > >>>military uses them. They decided to try the US since they are not a well > >>>known name and decided to sell them for 4 bills instead of the retail > > > > price > > > >>>of 71/2 bills. > >>> > >>>-Joe > >>> > >>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >>>news:W9%Ed.992$_d4.343@fed1read05... > >>> > >>> > >>>>zipdog wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>built by the chinese, used by the US Military. > >>>> > >>>>No, you've got your facts wrong. Milemarker produces a US-built > >>>>hydraulic winch that is used by the US military. They are not using, > >>>>nor are many people using, the Chinese-built electric winch that > >>>>Milemarker only sticks their name on. > >>>> > >>>>Jerry > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >>>>>news:twKEd.29463$232.12376@fed1read05... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>If you want to install a Chinese-built winch on your Jeep, go for it. > > > > :) > > > >>>>>>Jerry > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Joe wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Any thoughts on this winch. seems like a bargin at $399 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>-- > >>>>>>Jerry Bransford > >>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>>>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Jerry Bransford > >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>Jerry Bransford > >>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
I thought you were a Warn man, what the heck are you doing talking to MM?
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:v54Fd.9829$Tf5.6462@lakeread03... > Joe wrote: > > I stated "designed and engineered here in the US" > > So, I stated they are NOT designed and engineered here. I spoke to a > Milemarker engineer at a trade show for my company and he stated, > simply, they bought a new line of winches from China due to their losing > so much business to the electric winch industry. He specifically said > they didn't have much input on what they got other than color and > overall specs. > > Jerry > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:IA0Fd.1238$_d4.982@fed1read05... > > > >>-------- on them being "designed and manufacturered" in the US. Totally. > >> > >>Jerry > >> > >>Joe wrote: > >> > >>>Just wanted to know is if someone out there in cyber land has bought or > > > > used > > > >>>one of these winches. I called Milemarker today and yes Jerry, they are > >>>built in China, but they are designed and engineered here in the US. > >>>Milemarker also stated they are a big seller over in Europe and the > > > > Spanish > > > >>>military uses them. They decided to try the US since they are not a well > >>>known name and decided to sell them for 4 bills instead of the retail > > > > price > > > >>>of 71/2 bills. > >>> > >>>-Joe > >>> > >>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >>>news:W9%Ed.992$_d4.343@fed1read05... > >>> > >>> > >>>>zipdog wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>built by the chinese, used by the US Military. > >>>> > >>>>No, you've got your facts wrong. Milemarker produces a US-built > >>>>hydraulic winch that is used by the US military. They are not using, > >>>>nor are many people using, the Chinese-built electric winch that > >>>>Milemarker only sticks their name on. > >>>> > >>>>Jerry > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >>>>>news:twKEd.29463$232.12376@fed1read05... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>If you want to install a Chinese-built winch on your Jeep, go for it. > > > > :) > > > >>>>>>Jerry > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Joe wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Any thoughts on this winch. seems like a bargin at $399 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>-- > >>>>>>Jerry Bransford > >>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>>>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Jerry Bransford > >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>Jerry Bransford > >>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
I thought you were a Warn man, what the heck are you doing talking to MM?
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:v54Fd.9829$Tf5.6462@lakeread03... > Joe wrote: > > I stated "designed and engineered here in the US" > > So, I stated they are NOT designed and engineered here. I spoke to a > Milemarker engineer at a trade show for my company and he stated, > simply, they bought a new line of winches from China due to their losing > so much business to the electric winch industry. He specifically said > they didn't have much input on what they got other than color and > overall specs. > > Jerry > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:IA0Fd.1238$_d4.982@fed1read05... > > > >>-------- on them being "designed and manufacturered" in the US. Totally. > >> > >>Jerry > >> > >>Joe wrote: > >> > >>>Just wanted to know is if someone out there in cyber land has bought or > > > > used > > > >>>one of these winches. I called Milemarker today and yes Jerry, they are > >>>built in China, but they are designed and engineered here in the US. > >>>Milemarker also stated they are a big seller over in Europe and the > > > > Spanish > > > >>>military uses them. They decided to try the US since they are not a well > >>>known name and decided to sell them for 4 bills instead of the retail > > > > price > > > >>>of 71/2 bills. > >>> > >>>-Joe > >>> > >>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >>>news:W9%Ed.992$_d4.343@fed1read05... > >>> > >>> > >>>>zipdog wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>built by the chinese, used by the US Military. > >>>> > >>>>No, you've got your facts wrong. Milemarker produces a US-built > >>>>hydraulic winch that is used by the US military. They are not using, > >>>>nor are many people using, the Chinese-built electric winch that > >>>>Milemarker only sticks their name on. > >>>> > >>>>Jerry > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >>>>>news:twKEd.29463$232.12376@fed1read05... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>If you want to install a Chinese-built winch on your Jeep, go for it. > > > > :) > > > >>>>>>Jerry > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Joe wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Any thoughts on this winch. seems like a bargin at $399 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>-- > >>>>>>Jerry Bransford > >>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>>>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Jerry Bransford > >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>Jerry Bransford > >>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
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