Re: MileMarker PE8000
 

Joe wrote:
> Any thoughts on this winch. seems like a bargin at $399

i was a little skeptical at first but ive yet to ever hear of a single
failure from the chinese built mile marker electric winch. that said,
explore the hydraulic lineup before making a purchase. US made, US
military tested and proven, and still cheaper than the premium electric
winches. theyre a little intimidating at first, but they really arent
difficult to install. i installed a 10,500lb. mile marker hydraulic
winch on my '03 rubicon http://tinyurl.com/5x5fg (dial-up users beware)
that ill be putting on my next rubicon (or gladiator if they come to
market this year), and a 12,000lb. mile marker hydraulic winch on my
'04.5 dodge cummins 4x4. electric winches served me very well in the
past and i have nothing against them, but since going hydraulic ill
never go back to electric. you can never appreciate the difference
more than when you need a winch the most.

Re: MileMarker PE8000
 

(possible double post....google...sorry)

Jerry Bransford wrote:
> I'm on Camp Pendleton and MCAS Mira Mar once in a while and I've sure

> seen non-Milemarker winches on some of their trucks.

note i stated "reserve equipment". what youre seeing is equipment
purchased before the military standardized the hydraulic winch. youll
probably see them for many years on support vehicles....no point in
throwing out a perfectly good winch. you wont see them on combat
vehicles.

Re: MileMarker PE8000
 

(possible double post....google...sorry)

Jerry Bransford wrote:
> I'm on Camp Pendleton and MCAS Mira Mar once in a while and I've sure

> seen non-Milemarker winches on some of their trucks.

note i stated "reserve equipment". what youre seeing is equipment
purchased before the military standardized the hydraulic winch. youll
probably see them for many years on support vehicles....no point in
throwing out a perfectly good winch. you wont see them on combat
vehicles.

Re: MileMarker PE8000
 

(possible double post....google...sorry)

Jerry Bransford wrote:
> I'm on Camp Pendleton and MCAS Mira Mar once in a while and I've sure

> seen non-Milemarker winches on some of their trucks.

note i stated "reserve equipment". what youre seeing is equipment
purchased before the military standardized the hydraulic winch. youll
probably see them for many years on support vehicles....no point in
throwing out a perfectly good winch. you wont see them on combat
vehicles.

Re: MileMarker PE8000
 

NO I'm not seeing stuff that was purchased before Milemarker won that
deal, this stuff is not that old. You have no idea what I personally
have seen, you aren't here. This isn't old Reserve equipment I'm seeing
it on.

Jerry

montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
> (possible double post....google...sorry)
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>I'm on Camp Pendleton and MCAS Mira Mar once in a while and I've sure
>
>
>>seen non-Milemarker winches on some of their trucks.
>
>
> note i stated "reserve equipment". what youre seeing is equipment
> purchased before the military standardized the hydraulic winch. youll
> probably see them for many years on support vehicles....no point in
> throwing out a perfectly good winch. you wont see them on combat
> vehicles.
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: MileMarker PE8000
 

NO I'm not seeing stuff that was purchased before Milemarker won that
deal, this stuff is not that old. You have no idea what I personally
have seen, you aren't here. This isn't old Reserve equipment I'm seeing
it on.

Jerry

montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
> (possible double post....google...sorry)
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>I'm on Camp Pendleton and MCAS Mira Mar once in a while and I've sure
>
>
>>seen non-Milemarker winches on some of their trucks.
>
>
> note i stated "reserve equipment". what youre seeing is equipment
> purchased before the military standardized the hydraulic winch. youll
> probably see them for many years on support vehicles....no point in
> throwing out a perfectly good winch. you wont see them on combat
> vehicles.
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: MileMarker PE8000
 

NO I'm not seeing stuff that was purchased before Milemarker won that
deal, this stuff is not that old. You have no idea what I personally
have seen, you aren't here. This isn't old Reserve equipment I'm seeing
it on.

Jerry

montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
> (possible double post....google...sorry)
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>I'm on Camp Pendleton and MCAS Mira Mar once in a while and I've sure
>
>
>>seen non-Milemarker winches on some of their trucks.
>
>
> note i stated "reserve equipment". what youre seeing is equipment
> purchased before the military standardized the hydraulic winch. youll
> probably see them for many years on support vehicles....no point in
> throwing out a perfectly good winch. you wont see them on combat
> vehicles.
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: MileMarker PE8000
 

Jerry Bransford wrote:
> NO I'm not seeing stuff that was purchased before Milemarker won that

> deal, this stuff is not that old.

mile marker has been the exclusive winch provider to the US military
for about 2 years. a 2 year old winch left over from before the
hydraulic standard was set would not be "old".

.....and mile marker didnt "win" any deal. they _earned_ their
exclusivity by building the most rugged winch available that proved
itself to the harshest criticism anywhere.


> You have no idea what I personally
> have seen, you aren't here.

<sigh>....i should have known better than to contradict the great and
powerful jerry (despite the validity of my statements). i should have
known that your word somehow means more than US government signed
appropriations. perhaps youre visiting a magical army that run warns
on lifted TJs but jerry the facts will not change just because you said
so. the US military standard is the mile marker hydraulic winch no
matter how much you wish otherwise. i have not said that you wont see
some electrics running around but theyre simply left over.


> This isn't old Reserve equipment I'm seeing it on.

i didnt say "Reserve" (as in Reserve/National Guard) equipment, i said
"reserve" as in left over equipment.

Re: MileMarker PE8000
 

Jerry Bransford wrote:
> NO I'm not seeing stuff that was purchased before Milemarker won that

> deal, this stuff is not that old.

mile marker has been the exclusive winch provider to the US military
for about 2 years. a 2 year old winch left over from before the
hydraulic standard was set would not be "old".

.....and mile marker didnt "win" any deal. they _earned_ their
exclusivity by building the most rugged winch available that proved
itself to the harshest criticism anywhere.


> You have no idea what I personally
> have seen, you aren't here.

<sigh>....i should have known better than to contradict the great and
powerful jerry (despite the validity of my statements). i should have
known that your word somehow means more than US government signed
appropriations. perhaps youre visiting a magical army that run warns
on lifted TJs but jerry the facts will not change just because you said
so. the US military standard is the mile marker hydraulic winch no
matter how much you wish otherwise. i have not said that you wont see
some electrics running around but theyre simply left over.


> This isn't old Reserve equipment I'm seeing it on.

i didnt say "Reserve" (as in Reserve/National Guard) equipment, i said
"reserve" as in left over equipment.

Re: MileMarker PE8000
 

Jerry Bransford wrote:
> NO I'm not seeing stuff that was purchased before Milemarker won that

> deal, this stuff is not that old.

mile marker has been the exclusive winch provider to the US military
for about 2 years. a 2 year old winch left over from before the
hydraulic standard was set would not be "old".

.....and mile marker didnt "win" any deal. they _earned_ their
exclusivity by building the most rugged winch available that proved
itself to the harshest criticism anywhere.


> You have no idea what I personally
> have seen, you aren't here.

<sigh>....i should have known better than to contradict the great and
powerful jerry (despite the validity of my statements). i should have
known that your word somehow means more than US government signed
appropriations. perhaps youre visiting a magical army that run warns
on lifted TJs but jerry the facts will not change just because you said
so. the US military standard is the mile marker hydraulic winch no
matter how much you wish otherwise. i have not said that you wont see
some electrics running around but theyre simply left over.


> This isn't old Reserve equipment I'm seeing it on.

i didnt say "Reserve" (as in Reserve/National Guard) equipment, i said
"reserve" as in left over equipment.