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Re: MileMarker PE8000
I stated "designed and engineered here in the US"
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:IA0Fd.1238$_d4.982@fed1read05... > -------- on them being "designed and manufacturered" in the US. Totally. > > Jerry > > Joe wrote: > > Just wanted to know is if someone out there in cyber land has bought or used > > one of these winches. I called Milemarker today and yes Jerry, they are > > built in China, but they are designed and engineered here in the US. > > Milemarker also stated they are a big seller over in Europe and the Spanish > > military uses them. They decided to try the US since they are not a well > > known name and decided to sell them for 4 bills instead of the retail price > > of 71/2 bills. > > > > -Joe > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:W9%Ed.992$_d4.343@fed1read05... > > > >>zipdog wrote: > >> > >>>built by the chinese, used by the US Military. > >> > >>No, you've got your facts wrong. Milemarker produces a US-built > >>hydraulic winch that is used by the US military. They are not using, > >>nor are many people using, the Chinese-built electric winch that > >>Milemarker only sticks their name on. > >> > >>Jerry > >> > >>> > >>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >>>news:twKEd.29463$232.12376@fed1read05... > >>> > >>> > >>>>If you want to install a Chinese-built winch on your Jeep, go for it. :) > >>>> > >>>>Jerry > >>>> > >>>>Joe wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Any thoughts on this winch. seems like a bargin at $399 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Jerry Bransford > >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>Jerry Bransford > >>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
I stated "designed and engineered here in the US"
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:IA0Fd.1238$_d4.982@fed1read05... > -------- on them being "designed and manufacturered" in the US. Totally. > > Jerry > > Joe wrote: > > Just wanted to know is if someone out there in cyber land has bought or used > > one of these winches. I called Milemarker today and yes Jerry, they are > > built in China, but they are designed and engineered here in the US. > > Milemarker also stated they are a big seller over in Europe and the Spanish > > military uses them. They decided to try the US since they are not a well > > known name and decided to sell them for 4 bills instead of the retail price > > of 71/2 bills. > > > > -Joe > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:W9%Ed.992$_d4.343@fed1read05... > > > >>zipdog wrote: > >> > >>>built by the chinese, used by the US Military. > >> > >>No, you've got your facts wrong. Milemarker produces a US-built > >>hydraulic winch that is used by the US military. They are not using, > >>nor are many people using, the Chinese-built electric winch that > >>Milemarker only sticks their name on. > >> > >>Jerry > >> > >>> > >>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > >>>news:twKEd.29463$232.12376@fed1read05... > >>> > >>> > >>>>If you want to install a Chinese-built winch on your Jeep, go for it. :) > >>>> > >>>>Jerry > >>>> > >>>>Joe wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Any thoughts on this winch. seems like a bargin at $399 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Jerry Bransford > >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>Jerry Bransford > >>PP-ASEL N6TAY > >>See the Geezer Jeep at > >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Well let's just agree to disagree that Milemarker is the best thing
since sliced bread came along. You love Milemarker and tout their company line as if you worked for them... I think that's great that you have swallowed their hype hook line and sinker! ;) Jerry montanajeeper@aol.com wrote: > Jerry Bransford wrote: > >>MM won the RFP/RFB by being the lowest-cost responsive bidder. > > > that opinion is ridiculous. the military accepts bids on units meeting > _specific_ criteria and for the sake of bidding, a hydraulic winch and > an electric winch arent comparable! the military first determined that > the hydraulic winch was superior for their uses before bidding was even > an issue. > > >>I was >>involved in government bidding activities for 25 years > > > then you should know what i said above is correct. using your logic > the military would be driving mini-vans because i promise they would be > cheaper than HMMWVs. > > > > >>Yes Milemarker "won" the bid > > > you didnt say "bid" before, you said they "won the deal" as if the > electric were even a consideration by the time bidding came. they > EARNED "the deal" after years of proving themselves the most rugged, > durable, and dependable winch available. jerry the bid has nothing to > do with the military going hydraulic! the military decided to go > hydraulic after several years of rigorous testing, comparing electric > to hydraulic. by the time bidding came around it was strictly for > hydraulic winches. > > > >>they weren't awarded it because some >>bureaucrat decided Milemarker had the coolest winch > > > bottom line jerry, the electric winches were failing on amphibious > landings and the military needed something that would function EVERY > time. you can stomp your feet and get mad, but thats why they standard > was set. > > > > >>Ever notice how nearly every ad pushes the >>military angle? > > > <SNIP> > >>it saved the company whose sales were >>lackluster at best at the time.. > > oh, you mean just like willys did after ww2? ironic, huh? :-) > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Well let's just agree to disagree that Milemarker is the best thing
since sliced bread came along. You love Milemarker and tout their company line as if you worked for them... I think that's great that you have swallowed their hype hook line and sinker! ;) Jerry montanajeeper@aol.com wrote: > Jerry Bransford wrote: > >>MM won the RFP/RFB by being the lowest-cost responsive bidder. > > > that opinion is ridiculous. the military accepts bids on units meeting > _specific_ criteria and for the sake of bidding, a hydraulic winch and > an electric winch arent comparable! the military first determined that > the hydraulic winch was superior for their uses before bidding was even > an issue. > > >>I was >>involved in government bidding activities for 25 years > > > then you should know what i said above is correct. using your logic > the military would be driving mini-vans because i promise they would be > cheaper than HMMWVs. > > > > >>Yes Milemarker "won" the bid > > > you didnt say "bid" before, you said they "won the deal" as if the > electric were even a consideration by the time bidding came. they > EARNED "the deal" after years of proving themselves the most rugged, > durable, and dependable winch available. jerry the bid has nothing to > do with the military going hydraulic! the military decided to go > hydraulic after several years of rigorous testing, comparing electric > to hydraulic. by the time bidding came around it was strictly for > hydraulic winches. > > > >>they weren't awarded it because some >>bureaucrat decided Milemarker had the coolest winch > > > bottom line jerry, the electric winches were failing on amphibious > landings and the military needed something that would function EVERY > time. you can stomp your feet and get mad, but thats why they standard > was set. > > > > >>Ever notice how nearly every ad pushes the >>military angle? > > > <SNIP> > >>it saved the company whose sales were >>lackluster at best at the time.. > > oh, you mean just like willys did after ww2? ironic, huh? :-) > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Well let's just agree to disagree that Milemarker is the best thing
since sliced bread came along. You love Milemarker and tout their company line as if you worked for them... I think that's great that you have swallowed their hype hook line and sinker! ;) Jerry montanajeeper@aol.com wrote: > Jerry Bransford wrote: > >>MM won the RFP/RFB by being the lowest-cost responsive bidder. > > > that opinion is ridiculous. the military accepts bids on units meeting > _specific_ criteria and for the sake of bidding, a hydraulic winch and > an electric winch arent comparable! the military first determined that > the hydraulic winch was superior for their uses before bidding was even > an issue. > > >>I was >>involved in government bidding activities for 25 years > > > then you should know what i said above is correct. using your logic > the military would be driving mini-vans because i promise they would be > cheaper than HMMWVs. > > > > >>Yes Milemarker "won" the bid > > > you didnt say "bid" before, you said they "won the deal" as if the > electric were even a consideration by the time bidding came. they > EARNED "the deal" after years of proving themselves the most rugged, > durable, and dependable winch available. jerry the bid has nothing to > do with the military going hydraulic! the military decided to go > hydraulic after several years of rigorous testing, comparing electric > to hydraulic. by the time bidding came around it was strictly for > hydraulic winches. > > > >>they weren't awarded it because some >>bureaucrat decided Milemarker had the coolest winch > > > bottom line jerry, the electric winches were failing on amphibious > landings and the military needed something that would function EVERY > time. you can stomp your feet and get mad, but thats why they standard > was set. > > > > >>Ever notice how nearly every ad pushes the >>military angle? > > > <SNIP> > >>it saved the company whose sales were >>lackluster at best at the time.. > > oh, you mean just like willys did after ww2? ironic, huh? :-) > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Joe wrote:
> I stated "designed and engineered here in the US" So, I stated they are NOT designed and engineered here. I spoke to a Milemarker engineer at a trade show for my company and he stated, simply, they bought a new line of winches from China due to their losing so much business to the electric winch industry. He specifically said they didn't have much input on what they got other than color and overall specs. Jerry > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:IA0Fd.1238$_d4.982@fed1read05... > >>-------- on them being "designed and manufacturered" in the US. Totally. >> >>Jerry >> >>Joe wrote: >> >>>Just wanted to know is if someone out there in cyber land has bought or > > used > >>>one of these winches. I called Milemarker today and yes Jerry, they are >>>built in China, but they are designed and engineered here in the US. >>>Milemarker also stated they are a big seller over in Europe and the > > Spanish > >>>military uses them. They decided to try the US since they are not a well >>>known name and decided to sell them for 4 bills instead of the retail > > price > >>>of 71/2 bills. >>> >>>-Joe >>> >>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message >>>news:W9%Ed.992$_d4.343@fed1read05... >>> >>> >>>>zipdog wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>built by the chinese, used by the US Military. >>>> >>>>No, you've got your facts wrong. Milemarker produces a US-built >>>>hydraulic winch that is used by the US military. They are not using, >>>>nor are many people using, the Chinese-built electric winch that >>>>Milemarker only sticks their name on. >>>> >>>>Jerry >>>> >>>> >>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:twKEd.29463$232.12376@fed1read05... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>If you want to install a Chinese-built winch on your Jeep, go for it. > > :) > >>>>>>Jerry >>>>>> >>>>>>Joe wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Any thoughts on this winch. seems like a bargin at $399 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>Jerry Bransford >>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>Jerry Bransford >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Joe wrote:
> I stated "designed and engineered here in the US" So, I stated they are NOT designed and engineered here. I spoke to a Milemarker engineer at a trade show for my company and he stated, simply, they bought a new line of winches from China due to their losing so much business to the electric winch industry. He specifically said they didn't have much input on what they got other than color and overall specs. Jerry > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:IA0Fd.1238$_d4.982@fed1read05... > >>-------- on them being "designed and manufacturered" in the US. Totally. >> >>Jerry >> >>Joe wrote: >> >>>Just wanted to know is if someone out there in cyber land has bought or > > used > >>>one of these winches. I called Milemarker today and yes Jerry, they are >>>built in China, but they are designed and engineered here in the US. >>>Milemarker also stated they are a big seller over in Europe and the > > Spanish > >>>military uses them. They decided to try the US since they are not a well >>>known name and decided to sell them for 4 bills instead of the retail > > price > >>>of 71/2 bills. >>> >>>-Joe >>> >>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message >>>news:W9%Ed.992$_d4.343@fed1read05... >>> >>> >>>>zipdog wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>built by the chinese, used by the US Military. >>>> >>>>No, you've got your facts wrong. Milemarker produces a US-built >>>>hydraulic winch that is used by the US military. They are not using, >>>>nor are many people using, the Chinese-built electric winch that >>>>Milemarker only sticks their name on. >>>> >>>>Jerry >>>> >>>> >>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:twKEd.29463$232.12376@fed1read05... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>If you want to install a Chinese-built winch on your Jeep, go for it. > > :) > >>>>>>Jerry >>>>>> >>>>>>Joe wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Any thoughts on this winch. seems like a bargin at $399 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>Jerry Bransford >>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>Jerry Bransford >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Joe wrote:
> I stated "designed and engineered here in the US" So, I stated they are NOT designed and engineered here. I spoke to a Milemarker engineer at a trade show for my company and he stated, simply, they bought a new line of winches from China due to their losing so much business to the electric winch industry. He specifically said they didn't have much input on what they got other than color and overall specs. Jerry > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:IA0Fd.1238$_d4.982@fed1read05... > >>-------- on them being "designed and manufacturered" in the US. Totally. >> >>Jerry >> >>Joe wrote: >> >>>Just wanted to know is if someone out there in cyber land has bought or > > used > >>>one of these winches. I called Milemarker today and yes Jerry, they are >>>built in China, but they are designed and engineered here in the US. >>>Milemarker also stated they are a big seller over in Europe and the > > Spanish > >>>military uses them. They decided to try the US since they are not a well >>>known name and decided to sell them for 4 bills instead of the retail > > price > >>>of 71/2 bills. >>> >>>-Joe >>> >>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message >>>news:W9%Ed.992$_d4.343@fed1read05... >>> >>> >>>>zipdog wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>built by the chinese, used by the US Military. >>>> >>>>No, you've got your facts wrong. Milemarker produces a US-built >>>>hydraulic winch that is used by the US military. They are not using, >>>>nor are many people using, the Chinese-built electric winch that >>>>Milemarker only sticks their name on. >>>> >>>>Jerry >>>> >>>> >>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:twKEd.29463$232.12376@fed1read05... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>If you want to install a Chinese-built winch on your Jeep, go for it. > > :) > >>>>>>Jerry >>>>>> >>>>>>Joe wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Any thoughts on this winch. seems like a bargin at $399 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>Jerry Bransford >>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>Jerry Bransford >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Well let's just agree to disagree fair enough. > Milemarker is the best thing > since sliced bread came along. now thats not an accurate assessment of anything ive said. im simply challenging the silly notion that the military reserves the "serious" stuff for the few warns they still have on hand. the hydraulic winch does not heat up, its capable of pulling FULL CAPACITY 24/7 and never requires cool down. ive said many times that electric winches are great but c'mon....even you have to admit that for "serious" work, electric and hydraulic isnt even comparable. |
Re: MileMarker PE8000
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Well let's just agree to disagree fair enough. > Milemarker is the best thing > since sliced bread came along. now thats not an accurate assessment of anything ive said. im simply challenging the silly notion that the military reserves the "serious" stuff for the few warns they still have on hand. the hydraulic winch does not heat up, its capable of pulling FULL CAPACITY 24/7 and never requires cool down. ive said many times that electric winches are great but c'mon....even you have to admit that for "serious" work, electric and hydraulic isnt even comparable. |
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